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Murders and more
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:17 pm
by tude dog
We live in a big county. It is unfair to define us simply by some simple arithmetic.
WHERE KILLINGS GO UNSOLVED
Murders and more
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:37 pm
by Wandrin
Is is interesting, though, that in the various cities they covered there were the areas of low, high, and normal arrest rates. Sometime when I have the time, I'll take their map of the areas in San Francisco and figure out the neighborhood names that go with them so I can recognize them if I watch the evening news.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:14 am
by Bruv
My first impression seeing the image with murders flagged up in a small neighbourhood was how you all take it as normal......nearly.
Of course it's not in every area or as widespread as the picture leads us to believe.............but you put up with it.
Shame on you.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:14 am
by FourPart
Surely the bigger question should be how to stop them happening in the first place - or, at least, reduce it. The answer is glaringly obvious to everyone in the rest of the world. Gun control. In the US there is a gun related killing every few seconds. How much time is put into just attempting to solve any of these crimes? Even if it were just 1 min, the number of incidents far outweighs the investigation time. I suspect the only ones that get any investigation are those where the victim had some modicum of wealth and/or socio/political power. After all, do you really believe that an everyday black guy found shot in the street is going to get anywhere near the resources put into the murder investigation as that of a Corporate CEO found in the same circumstances? Same crime. Same conditions. Different value put on the victim's life.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:29 am
by tude dog
Wandrin;1519510 wrote: Is is interesting, though, that in the various cities they covered there were the areas of low, high, and normal arrest rates. Sometime when I have the time, I'll take their map of the areas in San Francisco and figure out the neighborhood names that go with them so I can recognize them if I watch the evening news.
I grew up and lived most my life in the Los Angeles area. It came as no surprise where there was the least number of murders solved, cause that where the most happen.
The local police had suffered so much from bad press and lack of support from the local government it makes it most difficult to garner local citizen support. Local citizen support is especially important when it comes to gangs/drugs.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:07 am
by tude dog
Bruv;1519520 wrote: My first impression seeing the image with murders flagged up in a small neighbourhood was how you all take it as normal......nearly.
Of course it's not in every area or as widespread as the picture leads us to believe.............but you put up with it.
Shame on you.
Reminds me of where I last lived. In that part of Los Angeles where the local police patrol was Devonshire Community Police Station, commonly referred to a CLUB DEV because of the lack of violent crime.
Well, things are a changn, hate to say. We did have minor property crime which only got worse. Well, it is diffcult to prevent opportunist crime. The surrounding area demographics change, for the worse.
Can't fight city hall, so we left.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:37 pm
by Bruv
tude dog;1519528 wrote: Can't fight city hall, so we left.
Thought City Hall fought with you or at least for you.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:49 pm
by tude dog
FourPart;1519523 wrote: Surely the bigger question should be how to stop them happening in the first place - or, at least, reduce it.
I hate picking on Chicago, but it is the obvious example.
[QUOTE=FourPart;1519523]The answer is glaringly obvious to everyone in the rest of the world. Gun control.
Chicago has very strict gun laws, Are Chicago's gun laws that strict? An explainer but a lot of gun-related crime.
[QUOTE=FourPart;1519523]In the US there is a gun related killing every few seconds. How much time is put into just attempting to solve any of these crimes? Even if it were just 1 min, the number of incidents far outweighs the investigation time.
FourPart;1519523 wrote: I suspect the only ones that get any investigation are those where the victim had some modicum of wealth and/or socio/political power. After all, do you really believe that an everyday black guy found shot in the street is going to get anywhere near the resources put into the murder investigation as that of a Corporate CEO found in the same circumstances? Same crime. Same conditions. Different value put on the victim's life.
That is a whole different argument.
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