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Troy

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:22 pm
by spot
The news has been mumbling about the BBC/Netflix collaboration https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/bbc-ne ... 202646162/

In an idle moment I thought I'd just check my worst guess was short of the mark and damn right, so it was. Three minutes in, there was Paris and his family riding the ranch on horses. With saddles, bridles and stirrups.

The anachronism is out by 2,500 years at least, they might as well have had dinosaurs wandering in the background. Troy has all the crass carelessness of One Million Years BC without the excuse of reasonable ignorance. I turned it off.

Troy

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:28 pm
by LarsMac
spot;1517998 wrote: The news has been mumbling about the BBC/Netflix collaboration https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/bbc-ne ... 202646162/

In an idle moment I thought I'd just check my worst guess was short of the mark and damn right, so it was. Three minutes in, there was Paris and his family riding the ranch on horses. With saddles, bridles and stirrups.

The anachronism is out by 2,500 years at least, they might as well have had dinosaurs wandering in the background. Troy has all the crass carelessness of One Million Years BC without the excuse of reasonable ignorance. I turned it off.


Are you suggesting that the Trojans did not have horses until the Greeks gave them one?

Troy

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:38 am
by spot
LarsMac;1517999 wrote: Are you suggesting that the Trojans did not have horses until the Greeks gave them one?


Good lord no.

To quote Wikipedia, "The stirrup was invented in China in the first few centuries AD and spread westward through the nomadic peoples of Central Eurasia. The use of paired stirrups is credited to the Chinese Jin Dynasty and came to Europe during the Middle Ages. Some argue that the stirrup was one of the basic tools used to create and spread modern civilization, possibly as important as the wheel or printing press."

Troy fell to Agamemnon around 1200 BCE.

Troy

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:07 pm
by Betty Boop
Ah, I've recorded it, maybe I'll not bother watching it.

I see from the comments in your link that no one else has noticed the stirrups error.

Troy

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:46 pm
by LarsMac
spot;1518003 wrote: Good lord no.

To quote Wikipedia, "The stirrup was invented in China in the first few centuries AD and spread westward through the nomadic peoples of Central Eurasia. The use of paired stirrups is credited to the Chinese Jin Dynasty and came to Europe during the Middle Ages. Some argue that the stirrup was one of the basic tools used to create and spread modern civilization, possibly as important as the wheel or printing press."

Troy fell to Agamemnon around 1200 BCE.


Ah, I have never studied up on the technical history of horsemanship.

And with all the horse people in my family, not a one caught that, either.

Troy

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:46 am
by Clodhopper
Alexander the Great had his crack Companion Cavalry which made a decisive contribution in several of his battles. All done without stirrups.

Troy

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:15 pm
by tude dog
spot;1517998 wrote: The news has been mumbling about the BBC/Netflix collaboration https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/bbc-ne ... 202646162/

In an idle moment I thought I'd just check my worst guess was short of the mark and damn right, so it was. Three minutes in, there was Paris and his family riding the ranch on horses. With saddles, bridles and stirrups.

The anachronism is out by 2,500 years at least, they might as well have had dinosaurs wandering in the background. Troy has all the crass carelessness of One Million Years BC without the excuse of reasonable ignorance. I turned it off.


You know what, I would not have noticed could hardly care as long as the story was entertaining. Just this morning I watched a western TV show which in part involved Indians on horseback. Far as I know Indians did not use saddles. Once again if one looked closely a blanket covered the saddle. It would not do to have actors falling off horses.

I never read the Iliad, but the movie seems to not follow the storyline and had other problems.

If I decide to watch any movie my only interest would be if it was entertaining. I will keep in mind that it may not be true to the book.

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Troy

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:08 pm
by LarsMac
tude dog;1518058 wrote: You know what, I would not have noticed could hardly care as long as the story was entertaining. Just this morning I watched a western TV show which in part involved Indians on horseback. Far as I know Indians did not use saddles. Once again if one looked closely a blanket covered the saddle. It would not do to have actors falling off horses.

I never read the Iliad, but the movie seems to not follow the storyline and had other problems.

If I decide to watch any movie my only interest would be if it was entertaining. I will keep in mind that it may not be true to the book.

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Yeah, I like entertaining, too,but there is that part of me that twitches when things are off the mark, technically or historically.

(like when a spaceship stops moving because they used up all their fuel. )

Or, yeah, injuns using saddles. Or the guy in a Daniel Boone story using a Colt Peacemaker.

Troy

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:22 am
by FourPart
LarsMac;1518063 wrote: Yeah, I like entertaining, too,but there is that part of me that twitches when things are off the mark, technically or historically.

(like when a spaceship stops moving because they used up all their fuel. )

Or, yeah, injuns using saddles. Or the guy in a Daniel Boone story using a Colt Peacemaker.


Or hearing an explosion in space. That always gets me too.

Troy

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:28 am
by spot
FourPart;1518118 wrote: Or hearing an explosion in space. That always gets me too.


That's the electromagnetic pulse hitting your spacecraft and flexing the joints.

Troy

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:55 am
by LarsMac
That is part of how I judge a movie, by how well it entertained enough to keep me distracted from the plot holes, and scientific/hostoric anomalies.

Troy

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:06 am
by Betty Boop
First episode kept me entertained enough to see it through.

Troy

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:28 am
by FourPart
The way I judge a movie is how well you can follow it merely by listening to it. Gone are the days of movies having a decent script. They are primarily now made of long scenes of time filling walking, special effects & cars veering off the road to run into convenienting stacked empty cardboard boxes which seem to appear at the most unexpected places, for no reason whatsoever.

Give me a good Radio Play any day.