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With many Europeans berating the US for their global meddling, here is a different take.

Perhaps the US should back out of NATO and stop interfering in "World Politics."

Harrop: Must America pay everybody's defense bills? - The Denver Post

The US spends more than half its annual budget playing guard dog for Western Europe.

You call, and we come barking. Maybe y'all should kick us out, and fend for yourselves.

This guy says, "Put up, or shut up."

What d'ya think?

Is that you talking Lars..........or Trump?

Who exactly are you defending us from ?

Bruv;1494297 wrote:

Who exactly are you defending us from ?


Putin's Russian military, Turkey, terrorists with hand-held missiles, cyberwarfare from Russia and China, North Korean missiles and atomic weapons, Iranian military, and of course the worst threat to Europe...Trump.

From Newsmax:

"Since the Cold War's end, the combined GDP of NATO's European members has grown 55 percent, yet their defense spending has declined almost 20 percent.

Twenty years ago, those nations provided 33 percent of the alliance's defense spending; today, they provide 21 percent. This is why Robert Gates, before resigning as U.S. defense secretary, warned that unless Europe's disarmament is reversed, future U.S. leaders "may not consider the return on America's investment in NATO worth the cost."

LarsMac;1494293 wrote: With many Europeans berating the US for their global meddling, here is a different take.

Perhaps the US should back out of NATO and stop interfering in "World Politics."

Harrop: Must America pay everybody's defense bills? - The Denver Post

The US spends more than half its annual budget playing guard dog for Western Europe.

You call, and we come barking. Maybe y'all should kick us out, and fend for yourselves.

This guy says, "Put up, or shut up."

What d'ya think?


Sounds right to me. Or should I say "sounds ok"?

Saint_;1494300 wrote: Putin's Russian military, Turkey, terrorists with hand-held missiles, cyberwarfare from Russia and China, North Korean missiles and atomic weapons, Iranian military, and of course the worst threat to Europe...Trump.


Hear, hear!

All that spending and you still need domnald trump to mak america great again?:sneaky:

Seriously though you guys need to take a look at your military spending but not because you're defending everybody else. It was republican president that warned against an industrial military complex and it's baleful influence. Why are we doing this is a good question to ask.

Saint_;1494301 wrote: From Newsmax:

"Since the Cold War's end, the combined GDP of NATO's European members has grown 55 percent, yet their defense spending has declined almost 20 percent.

Twenty years ago, those nations provided 33 percent of the alliance's defense spending; today, they provide 21 percent. This is why Robert Gates, before resigning as U.S. defense secretary, warned that unless Europe's disarmament is reversed, future U.S. leaders "may not consider the return on America's investment in NATO worth the cost."


This is because everyone in NATO apart from the Americans perceives that the threat level (of national conflict as opposed to terrorism) is declining and with it the need to support a large military infrastructure.

NATO was set up specifically to face off to Russia during the cold war - with the ending of the cold war its major function is to keep the western armies friendly and working with each other which does not require megabucks in defence spending.