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At least 21 protesters have been reported killed by security forces in Kiev after the breakdown of a truce agreed on Wednesday.

Witnesses have told the BBC that some died as a result of single gunshot wounds, typical of sniper fire.



Now the EU and the USA are getting involved, meanwhile Russia wont stand by......where next ?

It seems to skip from country to country. I wonder who the puppet master is?

After that telephone conversation leak I think we all know.

They should keep out of it.

Bit of a cheek for the UK to condemn them since they are about to take us out of the eu while in the Ukraine people are dying because they want to join.

Russia signaled concern on Wednesday at Estonia's treatment of its large ethnic Russian minority, comparing language policy in the Baltic state with what it said was a call in Ukraine to prevent the use of Russian.

What is Putin up to?

Troubled times ahead ?

gmc;1448660 wrote: Bit of a cheek for the UK to condemn them since they are about to take us out of the eu while in the Ukraine people are dying because they want to join.Not to mention their continuing occupation of six Irish counties.

Very cheeky indeed

The Crimea exit poll was 93% to join Russia.

If they're happy and Russia Is happy, the we should all butt the hell out.

Amatuers North Korea got 100%

What about Estonia ?

Bruv;1450584 wrote: Amatuers North Korea got 100%

What about Estonia ? So by the same token, If Scotland gets Independence and our Government In Westminster accepts the Poll, then we should expect sanctions and trade embargo's from the USA ? In fact, we could Impose sanctions upon ourselves.

I bet the Native Americans right now are saying... ' So let's get this right. The US Is unhappy that Russia has taken someone elses land'.... ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Mark Aspam;1450554 wrote: Not to mention their continuing occupation of six Irish counties.

Very cheeky indeed


There are similarities Ethnic cleansing, importation of settlers but Ireland wasn't given the north as part of the independence agreement and ulstermen still do not want to be part of a catholic ireland.

McOscar;1450699 wrote: So by the same token, If Scotland gets Independence and our Government In Westminster accepts the Poll, then we should expect sanctions and trade embargo's from the USA ? In fact, we could Impose sanctions upon ourselves.

I bet the Native Americans right now are saying... ' So let's get this right. The US Is unhappy that Russia has taken someone elses land'.... ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


But what if it was 93% to stay in the Union, and the Scots rioted in Edinburgh?

Might you question the vote?

I suggest thats more the current scenario....take a look at this

Actually, I find 93% vote for anything in today's world suspicious.

Bruv;1450713 wrote: But what if it was 93% to stay in the Union, and the Scots rioted in Edinburgh?

It Isn't though Is It ?

McOscar;1450744 wrote: It Isn't though Is It ?


It was you that started the comparisons wasn't it?

I am just playing along with your game.

Bruv;1450745 wrote: It was you that started the comparisons wasn't it?

I am just playing along with your game. I comparised nought. I said the Exit Polll was 93 %

McOscar;1450747 wrote: I comparised nought. I said the Exit Polll was 93 %


I am easily confused, but I feel I may have stepped through the looking glass into a different reality.

Talk about going off on tangents.....................you are well suited to a life in politics, confusion and denial will follow I'm sure.

Where did anybody mention a 3 l'ed Polll?

OK it was you........but only in the quoted post following the American Scotland obscuration earlier. It was me that called the 93% poll (with only 2 L's) questionable and compared it to a possible reason to suspect wrong doing in the future Scottish independance poll......should it reach such a result.

OK I think thats cleared that up.



What's a Ban hammer? And is it a thankable gift?

Just asking.

Bruv;1450748 wrote: I am easily confused, but I feel I may have stepped through the looking glass into a different reality.

Talk about going off on tangents.....................you are well suited to a life in politics, confusion and denial will follow I'm sure.

Where did anybody mention a 3 l'ed Polll?

OK it was you........but only in the quoted post following the American Scotland obscuration earlier. It was me that called the 93% poll (with only 2 L's) questionable and compared it to a possible reason to suspect wrong doing in the future Scottish independance poll......should it reach such a result.

OK I think thats cleared that up.



What's a Ban hammer? And is it a thankable gift?

Just asking.


I think she'd do well, no one would be able to follow what on earth she is in about but won't want to admit it and will be too polite to tell her she's talking through her backside, She should form her own political party, the obtuse party, the manifesto is obscure but they espouse it with the utter conviction of the utterly deluded.

gmc;1450750 wrote: I think she'd do well, no one would be able to follow what on earth she is in about but won't want to admit it and will be too polite to tell her she's talking through her backside, She should form her own political party, the obtuse party, the manifesto is obscure but they espouse it with the utter conviction of the utterly deluded.
Thanks... I could run It alongside ' The Obscure Scottish Socialist Evangelical Right' Party.... Acronym ' TOSSER '

Russian President Vladimir Putin ultimately wants to reclaim Finland for Russia, his former economic policy adviser has claimed.

Andrej Illiaronov, a libertarian economist who was one of Mr. Putin’s closest advisers from 2000 to 2005, said that “parts of Georgia, Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic States and Finland are states where Putin claims to have ownership,

Is this man a megalomaniac?

And did you know he is the second richest man in the world?

Russia is set to welcome foreigners to serve in its armed forces for the first time, creating a French-style “Foreign Legion, according to a new Defence Ministry proposal.

Obviously in need of a bigger army.........why ?

China to the east of them, nato to the west and the US placing missiles on it's borders. Do you need to ask? Plus he's showing signs of wanting a fight with someone.