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Seems wrong...

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:43 pm
by theia
That those who do half a job, take lots of sick days and basically can't be bothered are valued more than those who work hard (often finishing off the work shy's workload) and who believe that being paid to do a job means earning that pay.

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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:53 pm
by LarsMac
That's not been my experience.

Though the ones with their noses up the boss's backside often get by better than those who are out doing the work, for a while, anyway.

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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:57 pm
by Bruv
theia;1442144 wrote: That those who do half a job, take lots of sick days and basically can't be bothered are valued more than those who work hard (often finishing off the work shy's workload) and who believe that being paid to do a job means earning that pay.


Had a bad day ?

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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:02 pm
by theia
LarsMac;1442145 wrote: That's not been my experience.

Though the ones with their noses up the boss's backside often get by better than those who are out doing the work, for a while, anyway.


You've been very fortunate, Lars. The work shy in our place don't have to brown nose, not least because they're not going to put in that amount of effort and also because they know they can get away with crap work without having to curry favour with management.

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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:04 pm
by theia
Bruv;1442147 wrote: Had a bad day ?


Yep. Totally. A colleague appears to have mislaid 2 sets of patient's notes and I've had to pick up the flack for her actions.

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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:06 pm
by AnneBoleyn
Bruv is so perceptive.

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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:08 pm
by Betty Boop
theia;1442150 wrote: You've been very fortunate, Lars. The work shy in our place don't have to brown nose, not least because they're not going to put in that amount of effort and also because they know they can get away with crap work without having to curry favour with management.


Hugs to you, life does seem incredibly unfair at times. I don't think this is exclusive to where you are either, it seems to be happening in the same line of work this way too. Too many managers who can't actually manage and appear to have no clue who the workers are and who the charmers are.

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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:09 pm
by Betty Boop
theia;1442151 wrote: Yep. Totally. A colleague appears to have mislaid 2 sets of patient's notes and I've had to pick up the flack for her actions.


Jeepers :(

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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:16 pm
by Bruv
theia;1442151 wrote: Yep. Totally. A colleague appears to have mislaid 2 sets of patient's notes and I've had to pick up the flack for her actions.


Grass her up at the first opportunity..............but do it casually, by mistake, sort of inadvertantly........nudge nudge know what I mean

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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:16 pm
by theia
Betty Boop;1442158 wrote: Jeepers :(


Yep, it meant that the coders can't code and the hospital will lose money and one patient who has an OP appointment tomorrow at the acute hospital will have no notes for the consultant to refer to.

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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:20 pm
by theia
Bruv;1442160 wrote: Grass her up at the first opportunity..............but do it casually, by mistake, sort of inadvertantly........nudge nudge know what I mean


Bruv, it's all quite open...I've had the relevant departments on the phone over the past couple of days, and I had to ask senior clinicians if they had the notes. But nothing will be said to the colleague because she seems to hold a privileged position which rejects criticism of any kind. But I suppose it doesn't matter...it's only patient care!

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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:21 pm
by Betty Boop
theia;1442162 wrote: Yep, it meant that the coders can't code and the hospital will lose money and one patient who has an OP appointment tomorrow at the acute hospital will have no notes for the consultant to refer to.


What can possibly happen to these notes, surely they are either on a desk or in the records office? Bizarre.

Hang on, who booked the transport, will the patient even make it to the acute hospital... :thinking: ;)

Seriously, it's just a catalogue of disasters happening, very demoralising for you.

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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:38 pm
by along-for-the-ride
theia;1442144 wrote: That those who do half a job, take lots of sick days and basically can't be bothered are valued more than those who work hard (often finishing off the work shy's workload) and who believe that being paid to do a job means earning that pay.


Valued more by whom?

Don't get me wrong. I see this everyday in the office where I work and have pondered this oftentimes myself. I'm the "getterdone" girl. If something needs to get done, I do it. The two other co-workers just do their usual routine and try not to do anymore even if one of them is out. One has been there much longer than I have and the other just started in the office a couple of years ago. I've worked in the office for almost 20 years.

When one of them is out, I do their job and mine. Plus the filing, and tracking, and logging of terms, catching most of the phone calls, and assisting other employees. There is no change to their routine.

I have backed off to see if the "new" girl will show some initiative and she basically ignores any extra job.

In the past, I have mentioned the situation to my boss, but I gave up. He was sympathetic, but that was about it. So, it's been a long time since I mentioned it to him, and I don't plan to mention it again.

I like my job, nevertheless. I know this...I do feel better about myself when I do my job the best I can and not concern myself with my co-workers deficiencies. Although I am not perfect, I have confidence in my abilities. I know I earn my paycheck.

So, if nobody else in the office seems to value my contributions, I value them because I know I'm doing my job and doing the best I can. This should apply to you as well, theia. :)

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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:58 pm
by fuzzywuzzy
theia;1442162 wrote: Yep, it meant that the coders can't code and the hospital will lose money and one patient who has an OP appointment tomorrow at the acute hospital will have no notes for the consultant to refer to.


Oh isn't he going to be mighty pissed off!!!!

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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:16 am
by theia
along-for-the-ride;1442204 wrote: Valued more by whom?

Don't get me wrong. I see this everyday in the office where I work and have pondered this oftentimes myself. I'm the "getterdone" girl. If something needs to get done, I do it. The two other co-workers just do their usual routine and try not to do anymore even if one of them is out. One has been there much longer than I have and the other just started in the office a couple of years ago. I've worked in the office for almost 20 years.

When one of them is out, I do their job and mine. Plus the filing, and tracking, and logging of terms, catching most of the phone calls, and assisting other employees. There is no change to their routine.

I have backed off to see if the "new" girl will show some initiative and she basically ignores any extra job.

In the past, I have mentioned the situation to my boss, but I gave up. He was sympathetic, but that was about it. So, it's been a long time since I mentioned it to him, and I don't plan to mention it again.

I like my job, nevertheless. I know this...I do feel better about myself when I do my job the best I can and not concern myself with my co-workers deficiencies. Although I am not perfect, I have confidence in my abilities. I know I earn my paycheck.

So, if nobody else in the office seems to value my contributions, I value them because I know I'm doing my job and doing the best I can. This should apply to you as well, theia. :)


You've nailed it, AFTR, particularly in your last paragraph.

We can't change other people's behaviour but we can value what we do well. And I'm leaving in 3 weeks time anyway, on to pastures new, though I don't know know where these will be. The change will do me good.

Yes, Bruv, I'd had a bad day and all my grievances rushed to greet me. I'm not working again until Monday so I'll just take a deep breath and give it my beat until I leave.

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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:45 am
by Snooz
I freely admit I'm a leave abuser, when I don't feel well I'd rather be home. But when I'm at work, I do a pretty damn good job and get everything done and more besides. I've been told many times that I might miss more work than others in my office but I still get more done. Not exactly glowing praise but hey. Anyway, I see people playing online, on their phones, instant messaging, chatting, socializing, disappearing to god knows where and I'm at my desk working so "being at work" doesn't actually mean someone's working.

That said, there are people in the boss's office ratting out co-workers that actually get respect and recognition for that behavior rather than being told to mind their own business and get back to work. We've got idiots that are related to upper management shooting up the career ladder. We've got members of the major religious organization of this area being promoted much MUCH faster than minorities and non-members.

It's frustrating but I doubt it'll ever go away.

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:14 pm
by VickiChan
People playing online, on their phones, instant messaging, chatting, socializing, who influences me. Everyday, I need to face this situation. Maybe she is playing, I have to pay more attention to tell every purchaser who are looking for Chinese supplier to visit our trade website [mention of website removed as not allowed] Send email and invite them to publish their procurement information.

To be honest, it is really daunting. The result is unsatisfactory.

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:18 pm
by LarsMac
Love how you snuck that website in. Very clever.

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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:53 am
by Snooz
That was clever and I kind of enjoyed it.