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tude dog;1439909 wrote: I think Anne had a point in that I am not always that clear in expressing what I mean. Have to consider that everyone knows me or what I am about.


To be fair we are all guilty of using short hand on the understanding that we know what we mean and those that know us will know what we mean.

And strangely enough.........thats why we keep away from certain areas........sort of.
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Mr Cobb himself is now posting on said site.

Hoping I am allowed to make such an announcement here.
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AnneBoleyn;1439911 wrote: I think you mean Doesn't know you or what you are about.


:-5

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tude dog;1439914 wrote: :-5



Yes Dear


Always glad to help. :yh_wink
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Bruv;1439910 wrote: So Sheila..........you are saying even your good self has 'issues', I am not knocking it just commenting on it, I have said despite the fact I am married to an 'ethnic lady' I think I still have my own 'issues'

If nice,open, accepting people like you and me have built in prejudices, what chance have the lesser mortals :thinking:


I was one to accept everyone when I was younger. I'm beginning to think with age comes knowledge and experience and a world view of "you're all nuts".

Hmmmm yes I have issues. But I'm not prejudice, I hate, disrespect, turn my nose up, look sternly at, and gaffaw equally toward everyone. i don't believe one is more of an arsehole over another . They are all arseholes equally. :wah:
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Yes Dear


Always glad to help.


Could someone fill me in here please? Was there a marriage no one told me about ?
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No marriage. We are lantzmen, members of the tribe. He has a froy.
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you're both Jewish?
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We will admit nothing to no one! Call off your dogs!
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We have ways of making you talk you know :wah:

Why has Tude gone so silent???!!! What have you done with him?

tude?.........Tude?........TUDE?

here boy come ere' .........come on ........I've got a smackoes for you .Come here boy . :wah:
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Craig Cobb on the Trisha Show
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Bruv;1440124 wrote: Craig Cobb on the Trisha Show


Ohhhhhhhhhhh, that Trisha. I don't watch her show.
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I tried clicking the 'dislike' button & it wouldn't take my vote & when I kept pressing it a blue box took it's place. Agree or Else! I'll watch the rest later, thanks Bruv.
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Here is the punch line......The DNA results
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I finished watching both tapes. That was certainly strange, wasn't it. Any mathematicians here? What does it mean to be 14% black? It sounds like only a great-grandparent, not much further back than that, is it?

I read, (don't have link right now) where almost all of Southern white Americans have a percentage of black in their DNA. The whites whose families have always lived there, I mean.

I believe Ms. Ali said black people go back 78 trillion years of recorded history. Maybe I was dreaming.
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I understood that the majority of Europeans have a high percentage of African DNA in their genes, it doesn't mean there is a recent or even distant family member, just that somewhere in the indescernable past they have a connection.

I am sure you can get a DNA test for a price.
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Bruv;1440139 wrote: I understood that the majority of Europeans have a high percentage of African DNA in their genes, it doesn't mean there is a recent or even distant family member, just that somewhere in the indescernable past they have a connection.

I am sure you can get a DNA test for a price.
This is a special type of DNA test, a heritage one. I have not read any claims concerning it's specific accuracy. Sounds interesting though. Funny, the guest at the end who challenged those 2 racists on the couch said "I'm a human being from the planet Earth", which is funny because that's what I have said about myself many times & asked my son to say it too, when we lived in various White Xian lands. Always feel a bit strange surrounded by only Xian White people. Like, "no blacks or latinos, uh oh, I might be next" kind of feeling! :-D
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Wish only I had enough % of a tribe drowning in Casino money.

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Bruv;1440139 wrote: I understood that the majority of Europeans have a high percentage of African DNA in their genes, it doesn't mean there is a recent or even distant family member, just that somewhere in the indescernable past they have a connection.

I am sure you can get a DNA test for a price.


Not just the majority we all do as do the chinese and other east asians. What intrigues me is that europeans and chinese have traces of neanderthal dna - europeans more so than chinese, africans do not. Wonder what effect that had. I would like to think that is perhaps where the fey aspects to our nature come from. Don't suppose we will ever know.
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gmc;1440156 wrote: Not just the majority we all do as do the chinese and other east asians. What intrigues me is that europeans and chinese have traces of neanderthal dna - europeans more so than chinese, africans do not. Wonder what effect that had. I would like to think that is perhaps where the fey aspects to our nature come from. Don't suppose we will ever know.


Perhaps it is the Neanderthaller in us that makes the European the more aggressive and dominating type.
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LarsMac;1440167 wrote: Perhaps it is the Neanderthaller in us that makes the European the more aggressive and dominating type.


Doubt it, for one thing it's not just europeans that have the gene, chinese and asians do as well. Try asking a ww2 veteran of the pacific if he thought the Japanese lacked aggression. The mongols terrified europeans as did the turks and moors.

Having cannon and machine guns didn't make us more aggressive and dominating than africans it just meant we had a technological advantage such that they didn't have a chance against us. Without them they still managed to defeat european armies on occasion as did the north american indians. Are you really suggesting (for instance) African Americans are not as aggressive as their white counterparts?
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There is a portion of mankind that believe blacks are the more aggressive because of outrages like the Rwandan massacre or the necklace of fire or even driveby shootings, but forget about the wholesale slaughter of two world wars.
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The Leith Town Website
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Bruv;1440206 wrote: The Leith Town Website


Thanks, Bruv, that was interesting.
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Looking at the age of the mixed race couple they must have first met at a time when inter-racial marriage was outlawed in some states, bet that would be an interesting tale.
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gmc;1440225 wrote: Looking at the age of the mixed race couple they must have first met at a time when inter-racial marriage was outlawed in some states, bet that would be an interesting tale.


How old do you think they are? Miscegenation was banned in 1967. I bet they are younger than they look, in their 50's perhaps. Anyone know?
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Bobby is 52 years old. His wife Sherill is................I don't know, but they'd be too young to have been affected by miscegenation laws.
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Crikey I thought they were in their sixties at least plus I didn't actually know when Miscegenation was banned.
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AnneBoleyn;1440226 wrote: How old do you think they are? Miscegenation was banned in 1967. I bet they are younger than they look, in their 50's perhaps. Anyone know?


By the Supreme Court, Loving v. Virginia

At that time, not all states had such laws, I dare say most all. For example in Hawaii

Maui on February 2, 1961

Ann Dunham

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tude dog;1440311 wrote: By the Supreme Court, Loving v. Virginia

At that time, not all states had such laws, I dare say most all. For example in Hawaii

Maui on February 2, 1961

Ann Dunham

Barack Obama, Sr.




Your prejudice is showing :-)
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Just pointed out the fact that before 1967 many, if not most all states did not prohibit inter racial marriages.

[edit My response was dishonest. I edited a cartoon which tickled my fancy. /edit



If I am seen to be playing the race card it is only to my shame, to lower myself to the level of President Barak Obama and his lackey Erick Holder.
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tude dog;1440321 wrote: Just pointed out the fact that before 1967 many, if not most all states did not prohibit inter racial marriages.

If I am seen to be playing the race card it is only to my shame, to lower myself to the level of President Barak Obama and his lackey Erick Holder.


yadda yadda yadda. Can't you find someone else to hate, just for a little variety?
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While disagreeing with the content, I admire anybody that is willing to state clearly their own prejudice.

Now he has 'officially came out' maybe he can give us his reasoning behind his prejudice or is it just a learned/gut/uneducated response ?
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Bruv;1440346 wrote: While disagreeing with the content, I admire anybody that is willing to state clearly their own prejudice.

Now he has 'officially came out' maybe he can give us his reasoning behind his prejudice or is it just a learned/gut/uneducated response ?


A prejudice is by definition an unreasoned opinion without any consideration of the facts. It's often a learned response from childhood that can be overcome by reason.

Sadly the bible and religious faith was used to justify slavery and racism and while no one would use the same arguments nowadays the prejudice is deep seated, it's seems almost an article of faith - this is what I believe and no one can question my right to these beliefs. . IMO anyway, I don't claim to be an expert on the matter just opinionated.
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tude dog;1440321 wrote: Just pointed out the fact that before 1967 many, if not most all states did not prohibit inter racial marriages.

If I am seen to be playing the race card it is only to my shame, to lower myself to the level of President Barak Obama and his lackey Erick Holder.


Your deliberate misspelling of Barack & Eric is childish. If you want to change words around for sarcasm, at least do something more clever, i.e. patriotit.

I hope gmc didn't think miscegenation was a nationwide concept, so it's good you straightened that out. It would have been just as offensive if it were only One State, however.
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Wandrin;1440329 wrote: yadda yadda yadda. Can't you find someone else to hate, just for a little variety?


If that is a challenge I'll get right on it.
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Bruv;1440346 wrote: While disagreeing with the content, I admire anybody that is willing to state clearly their own prejudice.

Now he has 'officially came out' maybe he can give us his reasoning behind his prejudice or is it just a learned/gut/uneducated response ?


I am prejudice agings liars.

Gee, if both Barak's parents were of one race would your objection posting their picture here be different?

So who is prejudice here?

Oh, BYW, I am a very prejudice person, for example against bigots come up on the top of my list.
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gmc;1440409 wrote: A prejudice is by definition an unreasoned opinion without any consideration of the facts.


I disagree.

It is the facts available to me where I make a judgement. Experience is the key. Not an exact science, but heck.

Let's just put on blinders and pretend all people are good at heart.:-4
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tude dog;1440440 wrote: I am prejudice agings liars.

Gee, if both Barak's parents were of one race would your objection posting their picture here be different?

So who is prejudice here?

Oh, BYW, I am a very prejudice person, for example against bigots come up on the top of my list.
So ALL politicians then ? They all promise more than they can deliver.

I never objected to any picture, I never objected to anything.

I praised your stand, and asked for the reasoning behind it.

Telling me you don't like somebodies policies isn't prejudiced until you make it that way by playing (in your words) the race card.

And what does BYW mean ?
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AnneBoleyn;1440411 wrote: Your deliberate misspelling of Barack & Eric is childish. If you want to change words around for sarcasm, at least do something more clever, i.e. patriotit.


Well the spelling Queen Bee is here.

To be frank, it was not deliberate. It was I just didn't care.

AnneBoleyn;1440411 wrote: I hope gmc didn't think miscegenation was a nationwide concept, so it's good you straightened that out. It would have been just as offensive if it were only One State, however.


To be true.

Not a fair reflection of the entire nation.
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Bruv;1440445 wrote: So ALL politicians then ? They all promise more than they can deliver.


hmm, no

I vote for those who promise to work for policies I like.

Bruv;1440445 wrote: I never objected to any picture, I never objected to anything.

I praised your stand, and asked for the reasoning behind it.


I am a big fan of political cartoons. They say so much in a glance.

I knew instantly to crop the picture of Barack's parents would cause comment.

Bruv;1440445 wrote: Telling me you don't like somebodies policies isn't prejudiced until you make it that way by playing (in your words) the race card.


OMG, I played the race card?

Bruv;1440445 wrote: And what does BYW mean ?


sorry, my error

suppose to be BTW, by the way :D
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Would I be correct in thinking you would be 'uncomfortable' voting for an African American even if he was Republican ?
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Bruv;1440452 wrote: Would I be correct in thinking you would be 'uncomfortable' voting for an African American even if he was Republican ?


I could give a rats ass if it were an midget Inuit woman missing her right eye if she could deliver, or at least effectively promote the policies I favor. Even if she were a Democrat.
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Bruv;1440139 wrote: I understood that the majority of Europeans have a high percentage of African DNA in their genes, it doesn't mean there is a recent or even distant family member, just that somewhere in the indescernable past they have a connection.

I am sure you can get a DNA test for a price.


I watched the series The History of Scotland and found out tha the the Picts (?) and those even before them came overland from the east. So it goes without saying that most angloes have black blood in them .

but aren't we all descended from that "eve" woman they found in Africa?
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tude dog;1440470 wrote: I could give a rats ass if it were an midget Inuit woman missing her right eye if she could deliver, or at least effectively promote the policies I favor. Even if she were a Democrat.


OMG!!! I know her!!!
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tude dog;1440470 wrote: I could give a rats ass if it were an midget Inuit woman missing her right eye if she could deliver, or at least effectively promote the policies I favor. Even if she were a Democrat.Emphasis mine! Which, by a fair reading of this poster's fears, I mean writings, includes locking up a significant number of the black population.



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I hope gmc didn't think miscegenation was a nationwide concept, so it's good you straightened that out. It would have been just as offensive if it were only One State, however.


No I didn't think that at all. I knew some of the states had such laws - even in states that had such laws I would have thought there were many who considered it ridiculous that anyone should think they have the right to tell anyone who they can marry. It's hard to judge how prevalent such attitudes really are from the other side of the pond. Bigotry and racism are not exactly confined to america (see hitler, northern ireland, anti-irish etc etc). Now we have our media stirring up anti-polish and east european sentiment. My wife is English you should hear her on the subject of anti english scots - who generally speaking tend to be the same mentality that find religious bigotry attractive as well.

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I watched the series The History of Scotland and found out tha the the Picts (?) and those even before them came overland from the east. So it goes without saying that most angloes have black blood in them .

but aren't we all descended from that "eve" woman they found in Africa?


Have a look for the seven daughters of eve

The Seven Daughters of Eve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can't reason with bigots and racists all you can do is keep plugging away and hope they start learning to think for themselves.

My favourite ploy with any90ne coming out with racist comments was to play the blue eyed card - assuming of course you are talking to someone with brown eyes. Anyone with brown eyes must have african blood in them since all true north europeans have blue eyes. You must have negro blood in you because your eyes are brown. It's at least as good an argument as any they come out with and watching their attempts to think of an answer can be entertaining.
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But some blacks have blue eyes. Now I feel inferior, my eyes are hazel. I don't belong anywhere. Or maybe I belong everywhere. Now that's a scary thought. :)

What's that saying? Every king has a slave for an ancestor and every slave an emperor. :)
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We all trace back to the African continent, it's just a matter of how far back one needs to go.
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I guess in a sense that's true, but it's so long ago that it's a mute argument. Remembering that 'racism' is a twentieth century word. And considering most of the old rulers wanted beauties of all nations. (for harems and captives, concubines etc etc) Then if they thought merit in mixing blood lines and kingdoms then what the hell are we all on about in the later of the centuries?
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