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Flight Animation

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:25 pm
by tude dog
This is an interesting video of Asiana Airlines Flight 214 illustrating the crash and how it should have landed.


Flight Animation

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:39 pm
by LarsMac
Given the elapsed time, they were toast before the pilot realized they were too low and reacted. But, pulling up when he did, saved a lot of lives.

Flight Animation

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:53 pm
by Patsy Warnick
Very cool

I don't know how much control a pilot has after losing the tail - I'm asking as it looked as if it was going to flip - did the pilot have control over that?

Pilot did something right at the impact moment.

I'll watch it again.

Patsy

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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:17 pm
by tude dog
The whole thing was a classic fail. Looks to me like negligence as if nobody was paying attention. Wonder how long before somebody figures it out.

One was a trainee, experienced but new to that particular plane. I remember once reading that Korean trainers don't tolerate much from their trainees so I am not all that surprised at an article like this.



Asiana Flight 214: Was the pilot training program to blame?

US aviation experts with experience training South Korean pilots are dismissing allegations that poor pilot training could have caused the crash of Asiana Airlines Flight 214 at San Francisco International Airport.

The crash landing on July 6 killed two people and injured more than 180 others. A US National Transportation Safety Board investigation is focusing on pilot Lee Gang-kuk, who was landing the Boeing 777 for the first time at that airport. They are also looking at his trainer Lee Jeong-min; the pilot was apparently his first trainee. Some have raised questions about whether Asiana's pilot training program is to blame.

Aviation experts, however, dismiss that question.

“Pilots who fly internationally are all trained to the same standards, set by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), and they have to abide by those, so there shouldn't be a lot of variation as to how pilots are trained from country to country, says Dave Card, chief flight instructor and assistant professor at the University of Central Missouri’s department of aviation.

FULL STORY - Christian Science Monitor

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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:14 pm
by LarsMac
Patsy Warnick;1431596 wrote: Very cool

I don't know how much control a pilot has after losing the tail - I'm asking as it looked as if it was going to flip - did the pilot have control over that?

Pilot did something right at the impact moment.

I'll watch it again.

Patsy


When you see the plane start to nose up, that was after the pilot tried to raise altitude. there was no time to do so, but by bringing the nose up, the tail struck the seawall instead of the the fuselage doing so.

The impact caused the nose to drop, and the plane all but pancaked onto the runway.

That actually saved a lot of people.

If he had not pulled it up, the plane would have flown into the seawall and the death toll would have been quite high.

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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:58 am
by tabby
Thanks, Tude Dog, that was interesting! The airport personnel remained so calm and efficient. The surviving passengers must have felt such great relief to get out of that plane. I saw on the news where one couple was criticized for taking the time to get their bags out of the overhead compartment and rush from the plane clutching them. Maybe they knew already that they would need that change of underwear imminently!