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If Hillary Clinton decides to run (and I bet she will), I don't see one Republican presently, that can beat her. Like it or not, Conservatives, including my self, will be looking at not just four more years of liberal administration, but eight.

I am not seeing any credible Republicans, so far, but we have a few years.

Would like to actually see a decent third party effort on the move.

We need to at least send a message to the partisans that "ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!!"

Not going to happen

Her appearence alone tells you she's given up - she's done.

I don't see her running for Pres.

Patsy

I'll trust Patsy on this one. We could be wrong though. Personally, her behavior to date makes me dread the thought.

I'm not wrong - she's done

Her appearance tells the public she's done - she's tired.

Her time to run for Pres. has come & gone.

If she runs anywhere it's to the restroom from a bladder leak.

Patsy

Her appearance ??? :wah:

Dear God.

If we went by appearances, most of the British government would never be elected.

Of course she's tired, she has a demanding job and we all age you know

This Is a member o the British Government who Is bidding for leadership as we speak...... now that's tired !!!

Hilary has plenty left In her and long may she reign.

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Oscar

This is my opinion - this is how I observed Hillary.

Hillary has a group to perpare her for appearances - she'll make a public appearance with a pony tail for her hair..! really

Her clout - her position and a pony tail is all "they" can do to perpare her.

That's Hillary making a public appearance Not Caring - she's given up.

She's done - she's tired

Patsy

If Hillary runs, she has my vote, she always did. Having said that, I want to forget about it, as I'm exhausted from the whole thing. The last election began in 2007 & ended in 2012. I'm more tired than Hillary.

AnneBoleyn;1412257 wrote: If Hillary runs, she has my vote, she always did. Having said that, I want to forget about it, as I'm exhausted from the whole thing. The last election began in 2007 & ended in 2012. I'm more tired than Hillary.


I think she's too smart to run for the presidency. Come to think of it, who in their right mind would choose to subject themselves to that? Somewhere along the line it seems that the primary focus of all politicians shifted to running for office and the actual time they spend in office seems to be spent posturing to increase their chances in the next election and the one after that. I'm tired of politics as a competitive sport.

Sorry Patsy, but you are wrong about Hillary. Sure she looks tired and worn out, she's been on a roll visiting so many countries and all the while building and adding to her resume. She will not be able to resist what I predict will almost be a draft by her party to run for president. She has too big an ego to refuse, besides, if you check all my prior PREDICTIONS, I have always been spot on. :-3

Patsy Warnick;1412243 wrote: Oscar

This is my opinion - this is how I observed Hillary.

Hillary has a group to perpare her for appearances - she'll make a public appearance with a pony tail for her hair..! really

Her clout - her position and a pony tail is all "they" can do to perpare her.

That's Hillary making a public appearance Not Caring - she's given up.

She's done - she's tired

Patsy


Thankfully, In the UK we are not so shallow as to vote or judge on appearances.

oscar;1412272 wrote: Thankfully, In the UK we are not so shallow as to vote or judge on appearances.


You can, however, tell a lot about a person's mental state from their body language and the care they take with their appearance - there are many people who make a good living out of it.

There's a big difference between such an analysis and judging by appearance - it's nothing to do with who's attractive or dresses the better, more about who's committed and able against who's worn down and no longer up to the task.

Bryn Mawr;1412288 wrote: You can, however, tell a lot about a person's mental state from their body language and the care they take with their appearance - there are many people who make a good living out of it.

There's a big difference between such an analysis and judging by appearance - it's nothing to do with who's attractive or dresses the better, more about who's committed and able against who's worn down and no longer up to the task.


She's had a gruelling schedule these past few weeks Including visiting Ireland... who wouldn't be tired with what she's just packed In ? So she's being written off because she hasn't had her hair done?

Half of our MP's fall asleep on the back benches because they are so tired.

A Pres. has a stressful gruelling schedule - I don't want my Pres. falling asleep due to low stamina.

Hillary's appearance is very important - speaks volumns - nothing shallow about it Oscar - I'm not stating whether she's attractive / ugly etc.

Hillary is tired - worn out from that gruelling schedule you mentioned.

Hillary needs to keep a well groomed appearance - she's too tired for some one to do her hair - really ? That's general maintenance - and it's not being done.

Hillary would have to look like a serious contender for Pres.

No I wouldn't vote for her - yes, she's written off.

Hopefull the U.S. citizens will be as perfect as those in the UK

I thank you for your imput Oscar - anything else you'd like to know - just ask me..:wah:

Patsy

I'll bookmark this thread..

I'm with Lon

Doesn't sound like she's on her way out... rather more a woman with the luxury of choices and the world at her feet.

Four more years: Hillary Clinton mulls next move

You sure It's not a case of the old femme green eye here Patsy? :wah:

Lon

Barbara Walters is having a special this weekend - maybe Friday ?

She'll be interviewing Hillary - she'll ask Hillary is she plans to run for Pres. and you'll get your answer. Your right about the EGO..

I'll do what all shallow individuals do - I'll be grading her HAIR...:wah:

Patsy

Patsy Warnick;1412294 wrote: Lon

Barbara Walters is having a special this weekend - maybe Friday ?

She'll be interviewing Hillary - she'll ask Hillary is she plans to run for Pres. and you'll get your answer. Your right about the EGO..

I'll do what all shallow individuals do - I'll be grading her HAIR...:wah:

Patsy


I've got high definition TV Patsy... I could count the lines on her face for you If you like.

She looks Ab Fab and she kicks ass....

So - how old is Hillary anyway.?

If Hillary runs for Pres. - she'll need to hire a new group to groom her

add some life & engery into her.

Hillary will need to look vibrant & full of life.

Her skin is dull almost ill looking.

Oscar - I'm sure your own lines should keep you busy - thanks anyway..:wah:

Patsy

Patsy Warnick;1412308 wrote: So - how old is Hillary anyway.?

If Hillary runs for Pres. - she'll need to hire a new group to groom her

add some life & engery into her.

Hillary will need to look vibrant & full of life.

Her skin is dull almost ill looking.

Oscar - I'm sure your own lines should keep you busy - thanks anyway..:wah:

Patsy


Here you are Patsy... This pic was taken earlier this year. I've just had my 55 th birthday but you show me where my lines are and I'll rush out and buy the same cream as you do :wah::wah::wah:.... Come on Patsy... let's see you In all your glory eh?

Rather than the attack on her Hilary's looks, let's ask the question of Is she up to the job ?

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Good God Oscar give it a break

this thread isn't about you and all your beauty.

Don't ride my A$$ because I have a opinion - Don't harrass me

Keep busy - Start counting

Patsy

Patsy Warnick;1412311 wrote: Good God Oscar give it a break

this thread isn't about you and all your beauty.

Don't ride my A$$ because I have a opinion - Don't harrass me

Keep busy - Start counting

Patsy


Harrass you ??? My dear Patsy, one was merely responding to your Insult and taunt of " Oscar - I'm sure your own lines should keep you busy'

I'm sorry If you feel harrassed.... from your posts, It appeared you were equally enjoying the banter...

As for ' my beauty'...... errrrr I wouldn't quite call that.

Time will tell with Hills... I hope she does run... I admire her greatly, she has a Thatcheresque quality about her.

I guess it is a good thing we didnt have that inspipis commentary when that really fat president was elected. You know the one who weighed over 330 pounds. They had to install a special tub in the White House and everything....damn, what was his name???

William Howard Taft. And he was successful at civil service reform, increasing postal office effeciency and economy between the USA and Latin America. He not only served as President, but Secretary of War and Cheif Justice.

And you know, it took a LOT to get that fat at the turn of the century. So he must have been especially tired and lazy...

Reagan was suffering from Alzheimer's but he had excellent groomers.

Bush was devoid of brain cells but he seemed to cope admirably. Hilary is one very sexy lady.

Once again

I never stated Hillary was attractive or not

I never stated Hillary was Fat or thin

I stated she was tired and worn out - Her skin color is dull & ill looking.

Keeping your hair clean & styled is basic grooming - if Hillary can't bother with brushing her hair - what else can't she be bothered with...?

I don't want a LAZY - TIRED - FAT President.

Reagan had great groomers - well protected - no one knew of his disease until later on.

It's a different generation people - I / We can't change 1916. Great example.

2012 - get with the times

I hope our choice for Pres. are of a better choice than a 330 pound Taft.

Vote for who ever you wish when the time comes - and so will I..

I'll vote for a healthy individual Thank You very much.

Patsy

P.S. I never voted for Bush

Patsy Warnick;1412294 wrote: Lon

Barbara Walters is having a special this weekend - maybe Friday ?

She'll be interviewing Hillary - she'll ask Hillary is she plans to run for Pres. and you'll get your answer. Your right about the EGO..

I'll do what all shallow individuals do - I'll be grading her HAIR...:wah:



Patsy


You don't really expect Hillary to say that she is interested in running for Pres. on any TV show at this point in time. No, no, no it's too early and politicians don't do that.

Patsy Warnick;1412290 wrote: A Pres. has a stressful gruelling schedule - I don't want my Pres. falling asleep due to low stamina.

Hillary's appearance is very important - speaks volumns - nothing shallow about it Oscar - I'm not stating whether she's attractive / ugly etc.

Hillary is tired - worn out from that gruelling schedule you mentioned.

Hillary needs to keep a well groomed appearance - she's too tired for some one to do her hair - really ? That's general maintenance - and it's not being done.

Hillary would have to look like a serious contender for Pres.

No I wouldn't vote for her - yes, she's written off.

Hopefull the U.S. citizens will be as perfect as those in the UK

I thank you for your imput Oscar - anything else you'd like to know - just ask me..:wah:

Patsy


Patsy, I am not a Hillary fan but if you look at her schedule since she has held her present position it's quite amazing. With the amount of travel, time changes, meals etc. any one would look a bit tired and awry irrespective of personal attendants and grooming. You will see a different Hillary once she rests up and time gets closer to the next presidential primaries.

Lon

You really think she'll run?

I'm sure if it's a yes to run - she'll have to be vibrant

Talk about a gruelling long haul.

Patsy

Patsy Warnick;1412456 wrote: Once again

I never stated Hillary was attractive or not

I never stated Hillary was Fat or thin

I stated she was tired and worn out - Her skin color is dull & ill looking.

Keeping your hair clean & styled is basic grooming - if Hillary can't bother with brushing her hair - what else can't she be bothered with...?

I don't want a LAZY - TIRED - FAT President.

Reagan had great groomers - well protected - no one knew of his disease until later on.

It's a different generation people - I / We can't change 1916. Great example.

2012 - get with the times

I hope our choice for Pres. are of a better choice than a 330 pound Taft.

Vote for who ever you wish when the time comes - and so will I..

I'll vote for a healthy individual Thank You very much.

Patsy

P.S. I never voted for Bush


That's my point, Reagan looked good but he was brain damaged. You're all fussed up over Hillary wearing her hair in a pony tail like that's some horrendous breach of political protocol. You think she looks unkempt, tired and ill and I see an attractive and vital woman that's comfortable with herself that's doing a damn good job and seems to be enjoying it.

Lon,

Barbara Walters stated she would ask Hillary - so we'll see how that question is answered.

Good for her if she's up for all that work.

I like Hillary - highly educated etc. I don't care for the frumpy dowdy appearance for one in her position. And I certainly don't want a 65 yr old female Pres. representing the U.S. with a unkept appearance. I would like to see some class in that position.

Snooze

As far as mental capacity - we'll see how Hillary handles herself - she could be in the first stage of something also.

Patsy

Patsy Warnick;1412462 wrote: Lon,

Barbara Walters stated she would ask Hillary - so we'll see how that question is answered.

Good for her if she's up for all that work.

I like Hillary - highly educated etc. I don't care for the frumpy dowdy appearance for one in her position. And I certainly don't want a 65 yr old female Pres. representing the U.S. with a unkept appearance. I would like to see some class in that position.

Snooze

As far as mental capacity - we'll see how Hillary handles herself - she could be in the first stage of something also.

Patsy
From what I'm seeing on twitter she's been under the weather recently. That would explain the pasty look.

In any case she looks better than I do.

Flop

Perhaps that what I see?

I wasn't aware she hadn't been feeling well - I've worked in the medical field for 30 yrs - I notice things others don't, and maybe there's something more serious going on.?

Hillary use to always be put together - all I'm saying is what I see.

I don't want to be frumpy at 60 - I work hard not to be.

self respect

Patsy

WAMOMMA;1412450 wrote: I guess it is a good thing we didnt have that inspipis commentary when that really fat president was elected. You know the one who weighed over 330 pounds. They had to install a special tub in the White House and everything....damn, what was his name???

William Howard Taft. And he was successful at civil service reform, increasing postal office effeciency and economy between the USA and Latin America. He not only served as President, but Secretary of War and Cheif Justice.

And you know, it took a LOT to get that fat at the turn of the century. So he must have been especially tired and lazy...:wah: That made me giggle.

Lon;1412188 wrote: If Hillary Clinton decides to run (and I bet she will), I don't see one Republican presently, that can beat her. Like it or not, Conservatives, including my self, will be looking at not just four more years of liberal administration, but eight.


Hillary would win the Repub nomination if she ran against McCain & Romney. She's a shoo-in for Dem. She has 3 years to rest up, so fatigue isn't an issue.

I'd never vote for a statist, but if she runs & wins, she'd be a far more effective statist president than any of the last 4 Republocrat nominees.

(That's Bush McCain, Romney, & Obama)

Have i missed something here only i'm getting the impression, that presidents are now androids who never get sickness ? Perhaps she's been laid low by a bad bout of flu but really, who cares? I'd rather have a president who carries out her commitments while feeling under the weather than some vacuous bimbo who cancels her commitment for fear the world will see her having a bad hair day. There are people who can make judgments by how someone looks and behaves but the reason they get paid for it, is because they are experts in their field. To write off one of the worlds most driven women i've seen in decades because her skin is dull is absurd. If she has had a touch of the flu or some other medical problem then her skin is hardly going to be glowing and i take my hat off to her for carrying on with her work regardless of what she looks like. That if anything should be the clear indication of why she'd be a better president that the rabble we've seen of late preening and posing for camera's.

I haven't been in the medical field for 30 years and I think she's a fine example of a healthy late middle aged woman. I hope I look that good when I'm in my 60s. I know my mind won't be working as well as hers, it never has.

Patsy Warnick;1412456 wrote: I stated she was tired and worn out - Her skin color is dull & ill looking.
Working for and supporting a policy you don't agree with can be draining.

Peter Lake;1412467 wrote: Have i missed something here only i'm getting the impression, that presidents are now androids who never get sickness ? Perhaps she's been laid low by a bad bout of flu but really, who cares? I'd rather have a president who carries out her commitments while feeling under the weather than some vacuous bimbo who cancels her commitment for fear the world will see her having a bad hair day. There are people who can make judgments by how someone looks and behaves but the reason they get paid for it, is because they are experts in their field. To write off one of the worlds most driven women i've seen in decades because her skin is dull is absurd. If she has had a touch of the flu or some other medical problem then her skin is hardly going to be glowing and i take my hat off to her for carrying on with her work regardless of what she looks like. That if anything should be the clear indication of why she'd be a better president that the rabble we've seen of late preening and posing for camera's.


Personally I think she is allowed to feel under the weather from time to time.



Hillary Clinton Cancels Middle East Trip Because Of Stomach Virus



Hillary Clinton's Middle East trip canceled due to ill health - CSMonitor.com

That stomach thing is going around at work, I'm home sick with something that's either that or food poisoning and since I barely ate yesterday, I tend to think it's a virus. Lucky for me I'm not in the media for people to conjecture that I'm dying based on my skin tone.

SnoozeAgain;1412481 wrote: That stomach thing is going around at work, I'm home sick with something that's either that or food poisoning and since I barely ate yesterday, I tend to think it's a virus. Lucky for me I'm not in the media for people to conjecture that I'm dying based on my skin tone.


I accidentally bought the wrong shade of foundation. Hope I can successfully run my company. Its a shade darker than I am (since I dont tan), hopefully that doesnt say "Hi. I am inept."

Enough is enough now, this is all baiting.

You've made your opinions known, what is pathetic is the need to keep coming back to chip away a little more.

Any more and I'll close the thread until Bryn decides whether to allow it to continue or not.

No sympathy for my sick tummy, Betty?

I agree with you Lon ... Provided she does something about her appearance, especially her hair style which I personally think does nothing for her.

SnoozeAgain;1412484 wrote: No sympathy for my sick tummy, Betty?


Tonnes, just keep it there, I swear every sodding Christmas we end up with a stomach bug just before or during it all, sick of it, as no doubt you are

Keep sipping flat coke or lemonade, better than just water whilst you can't eat.

SnoozeAgain;1412481 wrote: That stomach thing is going around at work, I'm home sick with something that's either that or food poisoning and since I barely ate yesterday, I tend to think it's a virus. Lucky for me I'm not in the media for people to conjecture that I'm dying based on my skin tone.


You're a goner..

The question by Lon is - will Hillary run for Pres. - Predicition ??

I stated she was tired - worn out from the position she has now.

I don't appreciate her "group" allowing Hillary to make public appearances looking frumpy. Hillary is not put together. Which has nothing to do with the color of her foundation - very childish.

I never stated she wasn't dedicated.

yes, her position is draining - so much so she won't run for Pres. since that position is also draining.

Has Hillary earned respect - of course - I never stated other wise.

Please don't speak for me - please find where I stated all this added garbage.?? I didn't

Thank you

Patsy

Betty Boop;1412483 wrote: Enough is enough now, this is all baiting.

You've made your opinions known, what is pathetic is the need to keep coming back to chip away a little more.

Any more and I'll close the thread until Bryn decides whether to allow it to continue or not. Sorry but I have baited no-one. My post Is my entitlement as a member of this forum to express my opinion and as a member i am also entitled to state that i find another members opinion not in keeping with my own. What does turn threads into fights is inflammatory posts such as this by you Betty. I see no baiting here at all and i simply see a case of one member making a statement based on her opinion and other opinions differing to that. To threaten to shut down a thread simply because in the main no other member agrees with one member is defeating the object of a forum, in my opinion. There are no personal attacks here and the girls are just having a bit of fun with each other. I'm a moderator and if i shut down threads because no member agreed with one sole member, it would deter members from posting along with forcing them to think twice about expressing their opinion.