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Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:04 pm
by Oscar Namechange
This Is a poem written by a British Citizen.
It has become the subject of complaint by Khalid Mahmood (Lab Perry Barr) who said he was furious after a draft copy of a report, commissioned by Birmingham City Council, contained poems Including this one.
Here's the poem: Now without googling, what sort of person do you think wrote this ?
From Handsworth Cemetery.
From Handsworth Cemetery his parents see
The population change from Black and White
And seem to ask him what this place would be
Should he go out and up not looking back.
These people take the homes, the clubs the shops
And vote their man Into their council seat
But how can selling fruit and veg or knitted tops
Afford them flashy Mercs. We know they cheat.
We were here first. This Is our place
We fought for all those equal laws which they now use
Where Is our share? Where are the jobs they ought to give our kids?
But No, these people choose to spend the funds and profit on their gold
And flights to where they'll die when they get old.
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:21 pm
by Bruv
A disillusioned type, with issues ?
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:26 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Bruv;1388141 wrote: A disillusioned type, with issues ?
Forgive me Bruv but I'd like to reveal the author after a few more posts If that's OK ?
Do you think He/She Is being racist ?
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:28 pm
by Bruv
oscar;1388143 wrote: Forgive me Bruv but I'd like to reveal the author after a few more posts If that's OK ?
Do you think He/She Is being racist ?
Possibly, have to know who and why and where
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:31 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Bruv;1388144 wrote: Possibly, have to know who and why and where Ahhhh that's a good point Bruv....
So I ask.... Does who wrote It and In what circumstances Influence the reader In seeing racism In the words?
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:36 pm
by Bruv
oscar;1388147 wrote: Ahhhh that's a good point Bruv....
So I ask.... Does who wrote It and In what circumstances Influence the reader In seeing racism In the words?
I don't normally get this deep so early in the evening.
The answer could yes or no, there is no definitive answer.
I shall fall back onto my first answer....
A disillusioned type, with issues ?
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:37 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Bruv;1388150 wrote: I don't normally get this deep so early in the evening.
The answer could yes or no, there is no definitive answer.
I shall fall back onto my first answer....
A disillusioned type, with issues ?
Who do you think the poem was aimed at ?
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:40 pm
by Bruv
oscar;1388151 wrote: Who do you think the poem was aimed at ?
Could be a multitude of answers......I shall fall back on to my second answer.
(I amoff to cook a gammon steak.....be back later)
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:44 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Bruv;1388153 wrote: Could be a multitude of answers......I shall fall back on to my second answer.
(I amoff to cook a gammon steak.....be back later)
Okey Dokey Big Boy... Laters
Don't forget the Pineapple
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:50 pm
by Bruv
oscar;1388154 wrote:
Don't forget the Pineapple
Sppiiiiiit !!
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:11 pm
by gmc
oscar;1388135 wrote: This Is a poem written by a British Citizen.
It has become the subject of complaint by Khalid Mahmood (Lab Perry Barr) who said he was furious after a draft copy of a report, commissioned by Birmingham City Council, contained poems Including this one.
Here's the poem: Now without googling, what sort of person do you think wrote this ?
From Handsworth Cemetery.
From Handsworth Cemetery his parents see
The population change from Black and White
And seem to ask him what this place would be
Should he go out and up not looking back.
These people take the homes, the clubs the shops
And vote their man Into their council seat
But how can selling fruit and veg or knitted tops
Afford them flashy Mercs. We know they cheat.
We were here first. This Is our place
We fought for all those equal laws which they now use
Where Is our share? Where are the jobs they ought to give our kids?
But No, these people choose to spend the funds and profit on their gold
And flights to where they'll die when they get old.
We were here first. This Is our place
We fought for all those equal laws which they now use
Afro Caribbean probably. Black/asian racism is far worse than white/black you still get the blacks are an inferior race argument, mind you i know a few indian/pakistani asians that think that of white people. Paki bashing was often black on - well pakis. Hundu wouldn't work with muslim because they were generally inferior castes that were attracted to it. Nigerians looked down on everybody. Racism is not a purely white european phenomenon.
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:16 pm
by Snooz
I was going to go with Picts.
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:20 pm
by Oscar Namechange
gmc;1388307 wrote: We were here first. This Is our place
We fought for all those equal laws which they now use
Afro Caribbean probably. Black/asian racism is far worse than white/black you still get the blacks are an inferior race argument, mind you i know a few indian/pakistani asians that think that of white people. Paki bashing was often black on - well pakis. Hundu wouldn't work with muslim because they were generally inferior castes that were attracted to it. Nigerians looked down on everybody. Racism is not a purely white european phenomenon.
You are spot on gmc.... The author Is Afro/Caribbean and his poem Is about Muslims.
It was written after the Birmingham riots.
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:09 pm
by gmc
OK i cheated slightly and looked it up to make sure I was right.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
The British Race Riots of 1919
Racism in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In Norman-controlled England and Wales, the English and Welsh were considered an underclass whose men were forbidden to marry into Norman families
We were here first. This Is our place!! Did you know the word wales has it's origins in an anglo saxon word for foreigner or stranger. Ironic or what? What does ethnic british really mean?
Instead of chav or schemey (council housing estate inhabitant) try peasant or working class scum. Are working class tory voters race traitors sucking up to their conquerors? Bend over boys the tories are in power.
The word 'identity' appears in the title because the BNP believes in genuine ethnic and cultural diversity and the right of all peoples to be free of colonisation and rule by others — including the indigenous people of these islands."
"The BNP is committed to putting the interests of the British people first. I invite you to review our policies and make your choice."
Nick griffin is himself the child of immigrants and now one of the colonial elite living in wales on land taken from the indigenous peoples - it's safe to assume they didn't say they didn't hand the country over willingly. When he leaves wales and gives his property back to the welsh I'll maybe start taking him seriously when he prattles on about the rights of indigenous britons.
Perceptions Of Racism...
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:00 pm
by Oscar Namechange
The BNP message and website Is out-dated. Griffin had long since changed his tune from English to ' Indigenous European' as criteria. He just forgot to tell the people who write for him.