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Solving the Malvinas issue

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:25 pm
by spot
The Argentinian president, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, has summoned the country's political elite and veterans of the 1982 Falklands war to the presidential palace for what is expected to be a significant announcement about the islands.

The Casa Rosada made the rare gesture of inviting opposition leaders to the Hall of Latin American Patriots for what is speculated to be an escalation in the diplomatic row with Britain over the islands' sovereignty.

Falkland Islands: Argentina's president to raise stakes in address to nation | World news | guardian.co.uk

I have a proposal which ought to end the dispute amicably.

The UK has said on many occasions that foreign territories will be held only for as long as the majority of the residents support UK sovereignty. If Gibraltar, or Northern Ireland, or the Falklands, chose by majority at a referendum to become subject to another country (such as Ireland or Spain or Argentina) then the UK would promptly cooperate in the transfer.

The population of the Falklands is around 3140, as far as residents to be consulted is concerned. I suggest that Argentina invite such a referendum under UN observation, and offer each and every resident a tax-free million pounds sterling if the majority vote for Argentine sovereignty. Guarantees on retaining English as an official language for the next hundred years, and the switch to Argentine law to be phased in over a ten-year period, and a guaranteed right of departure complete with the million pounds to anyone wishing to return to the UK, should do the trick.

Would anyone like to bet that the majority would vote to retain the status quo? Personally I doubt it very much. As an option for Argentina it's dirt cheap too.

Solving the Malvinas issue

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:46 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Your Idea ????

parapolitical • Dr. Steve Hanke of the CATO Institute has proposed...

Solving the Malvinas issue

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:57 pm
by spot
Where did I claim it to be my idea? I can see "I propose" and "I suggest", nothing about novelty.

As it happens I've not seen it mentioned elsewhere but nobody could put forward something so obvious while believing it's an exclusive notion never seen before.

Solving the Malvinas issue

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:05 pm
by Oscar Namechange
spot;1383828 wrote: Where did I claim it to be my idea? I can see "I propose" and "I suggest", nothing about novelty.

As it happens I've not seen it mentioned elsewhere but nobody could put forward something so obvious while believing it's an exclusive notion never seen before.


"I have a proposal which ought to end the dispute amicably." tends to give the Impression to those not familiar with the Issue that the author has has found a novel proposal.

Thus, one could have written, 'There has been proposals that I agree with'.

Regardless, I am In agreement with the proposal.

Solving the Malvinas issue

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:12 pm
by spot
oscar;1383829 wrote: "I have a proposal which ought to end the dispute amicably." tends to give the Impression to those not familiar with the Issue that the author has has found a novel proposal.

Thus, one could have written, 'There has been proposals that I agree with'.
Perhaps, had I been aware of them, I might have written exactly that.

From a broader perspective, "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us". I think we can take that for granted when reading any post.

Solving the Malvinas issue

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:43 pm
by Oscar Namechange
spot;1383830 wrote: Perhaps, had I been aware of them, I might have written exactly that.

From a broader perspective, "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us". I think we can take that for granted when reading any post.


Maybe, however, In any OP, the use of ' I suggest' Is to Imply to readers that the ' I ' being the author of the OP Is the first and sole suggestion.

It is that which Is deliberately misleading to readers as I suspect you know very well.

Solving the Malvinas issue

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:06 am
by Bruv
Errrrm ?

What were we talking about ?

Oh yea.....

I know the old adage everybody has their price. Is it all about the money though ?

Solving the Malvinas issue

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:20 am
by Oscar Namechange
Bruv;1383838 wrote: Errrrm ?

What were we talking about ?

Oh yea.....

I know the old adage everybody has their price. Is it all about the money though ?


The money Is actually Irrelevant. The whole point of The Falkands war was protecting the sovereignty of It's Inhabitants. The general consensus Is and always has been that the Inhabitants have no desire to surrender sovereignty, there-fore any 'bribe' Is uncalled for.

Solving the Malvinas issue

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:23 pm
by spot
On the contrary, a bribe is the only way the islands will transfer to their natural sovereignty, Argentinian. I don't think a half million US would necessarily do the trick either, but I do think a million sterling would.