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Obama Couldn't Wait: His New Christmas Tree Tax



What a scrooge?

Yah boo humbug.

this does not surprise me...all I'm gonna say.

What kind of propagandist liar transmutes 15 cents into 15%, that's what I want to know, it's beyond the bounds of simple innumeracy. The thread also fails to mention that the fixed-cost surcharge has been postponed indefinitely, just to add weight to the propagandist aspect.

Why did I look? Because common sense saw the thread title, winced at yet another mis-apostrophised plural and shouted "rubbish!" at the alleged fact.

And no, oscar, not even the excuse of "I saw it on the web so I thought it was true" works on that percent sign. On a thirty dollar tree it's a half of one percent.

spot;1375476 wrote: What kind of propagandist liar transmutes 15 cents into 15%, that's what I want to know, it's beyond the bounds of simple innumeracy. The thread also fails to mention that the fixed-cost surcharge has been postponed indefinitely, just to add weight to the propagandist aspect.

Why did I look? Because common sense saw the thread title, winced at yet another mis-apostrophised plural and shouted "rubbish!" at the alleged fact.

And no, oscar, not even the excuse of "I saw it on the web so I thought it was true" works on that percent sign. On a thirty dollar tree it's a half of one percent.


Stop it spot, you know she's a daily mail reader and can't help it. The republicans should approve though, it's looks like a flat rate so the size of your christmas tree doesn't matter and the really rich will share out some of the branches on theirs thus helping the christmas economy/ sorry spirit.

gmc;1375477 wrote: Stop it spot, you know she's a daily mail reader and can't help it.I also note her claim to business management experience and that she's proposing, if I've understood matters correctly, to run a retail outlet in the foreseeable future.

15 cents is 15% of one dollar and it's not as though it's on a daily or weekly expense: those who buy fresh-cut Christmas Trees from commercial outlets usually limit themselves to one a year. A 15% tax on one dollar annually for those daft enough to be wantonly complicit in tree destruction seems pretty minimal to me. Personally I'd have them flogged alongside witless abusers of the apostrophe.

Another thread where the thread starter did no research. Reading more than the headlines is usually a good idea. This was an idea drawn up by a consortium of small farmers in order to promote their Christmas trees. Thanks to the right-wing and people like this thread starter, small businesses have now lost potential revenue because the idea has been scrapped. You all should pat yourselves on the back, Oscar. Good job! Keep protecting those Chinese manufacturers of imitation Christmas Trees.

snopes.com: Christmas Tree Tax

WonderWendy3;1375471 wrote: this does not surprise me...all I'm gonna say.I'm truly surprised you let this trash get by you without exposing it.

Why does the administration not have a press conference just to point out the truth of the matter?

Now spot's at it

15 cents is 15% of one dollar and it's not as though it's on a daily or weekly expense: those who buy fresh-cut Christmas Trees from commercial outlets usually limit themselves to one a year. A 15% tax on one dollar annually for those daft enough to be wantonly complicit in tree destruction seems pretty minimal to me. Personally I'd have them flogged alongside witless abusers of the apostrophe.


It's 15c PER TREE if you sell or prodice more than 500.

Better a cut tree that get recycled than an artificial one made with oil. Besides it's a good pagan tradition that the Christians were never able to stamp out enjoy the irony of the occasion.

posted by ahso

Another thread where the thread starter did no research. Reading more than the headlines is usually a good idea. This was an idea drawn up by a consortium of small farmers in order to promote their Christmas trees. Thanks to the right-wing and people like this thread starter, small businesses have now lost potential revenue because the idea has been scrapped. You all should pat yourselves on the back, Oscar. Good job! Keep protecting those Chinese manufacturers of imitation Christmas Trees.




Good news, Oscar is british, if you call her a fascist she will understand what you mean.

Good Heavens above... what venom utters forth?

Yesterday, I started my work day at 8 am having got up at 6 am.

I carried out mostly physical work until 5 pm and I got home at 6 pm.

Then I had to cook, clean and launder along with looking after one very unwell husband.

I made a couple of posts on FG before spending the evening cooking, cleaning and laundering. I also took two of my dogs for a round trip walk of 3 miles In the rain.

I spent the later part of the evening working from home on my laptop for my political party and local Issue's.

I finally sat down with some 'Me' time around midnight when I took my sleep medication.

I wrote my thread In the early hours of the morning In haste before I finally went to bed. However, do not think I look for sympathy... I happen to thoroughly enjoy every minutes of my life with the exception of an unwell husband.

I made a mistake Just as Spot could not spell Jimmy Savile correctly In his thread.

The venom and bile expressed here just about answers Bryn's question as to why members are not posting doesn't It?

There's an expression with which I have no truck whatever - what goes around comes around. Should ForumGarden wake up one morning and find you've permanently gone elsewhere to post, or better yet given up forums entirely, I for one will heave a sigh of relief.

spot;1375494 wrote: There's an expression with which I have no truck whatever - what goes around comes around. Should ForumGarden wake up one morning and find you've permanently gone elsewhere to post, or better yet given up forums entirely, I for one will heave a sigh of relief.


Really ? And how many members left this forum because of your bitter nauture?

Now Spot.... I am guilty of nothing more than tiredness.... What exactly was your excuse for not researching how to spell the name of one of the most famous men In the UK In your thread on Jimmy Savile? Only I would put that down to sheer Ignorance.

oscar;1375490 wrote: Good Heavens above... what venom utters forth?

Yesterday, I started my work day at 8 am having got up at 6 am.

I carried out mostly physical work until 5 pm and I got home at 6 pm.

Then I had to cook, clean and launder along with looking after one very unwell husband.

I made a couple of posts on FG before spending the evening cooking, cleaning and laundering. I also took two of my dogs for a round trip walk of 3 miles In the rain.

I spent the later part of the evening working from home on my laptop for my political party and local Issue's.

I finally sat down with some 'Me' time around midnight when I took my sleep medication.

I wrote my thread In the early hours of the morning In haste before I finally went to bed. However, do not think I look for sympathy... I happen to thoroughly enjoy every minutes of my life with the exception of an unwell husband.

I made a mistake Just as Spot could not spell Jimmy Savile correctly In his thread.

The venom and bile expressed here just about answers Bryn's question as to why members are not posting doesn't It?


My apologies, I didn't mean to offend it was intended as the usual puerile badinage that pepper your posts. I don't take your anti scottish abuse seriously you know.

gmc;1375496 wrote: My apologies, I didn't mean to offend it was intended as the usual puerile badinage that pepper your posts. I don't take your anti scottish abuse seriously you know.


Hey, Auld Yin, I wasn't Including you In my post. I respect you and admire your knowledge on subjects and I know with you It's only banter. I know the difference between the banter we share and pure venom from those who jump on any opportunity to show what unfullfilling little lives they lead.

Besides, you can spell ' Savile'.

Thanks for the private message. That's exactly why I respect you. Perhaps others could learn from you eh?

Anyway, your home early, did Scotland shut for the day?

oscar;1375495 wrote: What exactly was your excuse for not researching how to spell the name of one of the most famous men In the UK In your thread on Jimmy Savile?Saville outranks Savile by 12,948 births to 421 in England since 1837, it's the overwhelmingly more common spelling by a factor of thirty. It's not a matter of "research" as you put it - a grotesque abuse of the word in my opinion - it's what happens sometimes when people type sounds.

Your retirement is intended to increase the site's allure. Perhaps we could experiment along those lines.

oscar;1375495 wrote: Really ? And how many members left this forum because of your bitter nauture?None! Some may have left because they were unable to understand what Spot posts; or were crybabies who became easily offended due to their silly patriotic posture; many, I imagine, didn't appreciate being asked to actually provide evidence for the claims they made. Those I mention, like you've pointed out in this thread about yourself, are victims of themselves. Spot is not bitter, he's honest. A lot of people don't like what illuminates in the bright light of honesty.

gmc;1375496 wrote: My apologies, I didn't mean to offend it was intended as the usual puerile badinage that pepper your posts. I don't take your anti scottish abuse seriously you know.You actually bought that "poor pitiful me" act?

*Cough*........sighhhhhh!!!!!!!

Ahso!;1375507 wrote: You actually bought that "poor pitiful me" act?
Try reading my post Rat Boy. I do not seek sympathy. I enjoy every minute of my life. When I do sit down exhausted at the end of the day, I do it with fulfillment and satisfaction.

The mere fact that you hover as a guest on this forum waiting for the opportunity to climb Inside Spot's rectum shows that you have Issue's and a very unhappy life. For that, I pity you. If your goals In life are only to emulate an embittered old man who fails to research before writing the name of one of England's most famous men In his thread and express's his bile and racism toward your country at every turn along with self Imposed Importance because, Gosh, wow, shock, he writes on a forum, then you need to get your Issue's addressed because trust me, they are apparent In every word you write.

spot;1375503 wrote: Saville outranks Savile by 12,948 births to 421 in England since 1837, it's the overwhelmingly more common spelling by a factor of thirty. It's not a matter of "research" as you put it - a grotesque abuse of the word in my opinion - it's what happens sometimes when people type sounds.

Your retirement is intended to increase the site's allure. Perhaps we could experiment along those lines.


What utter cobblers.

Do you really expect anyone to believe that?

Are you seriously trying to suggest that you heard Jimmy Savile had died and did not google his death before writing your thread without getting any details before hand?

The moment you entered Jimmy Savile Into your search engine, the most recent story would have come up at the top of page one as It did for me when I entered 'Jimmy Savile dead' Into my search engine.

I am guilty of tiredness. You are just lying to save face for your ignorance.

You know what, Oscar? You're such a crybaby. Instead of taking it on the chin and saying: "boy I really messed that one up", you make all sorts of excuses and play the victim while hoping it doesn't appear that way. Then you resort, once again, to your childish name-calling. Grow up for goodness sake.

Ahso!;1375513 wrote: You know what, Oscar? You're such a crybaby. Instead of taking it on the chin and saying: "boy I really messed that one up", you make all sorts of excuses and play the victim while hoping it doesn't appear that way. Then you resort, once again, to your childish name-calling. Grow up for goodness sake.


Hang On Rat Boy, I said In my reply, 'I made a mistake'.... now If you have trouble understanding that phrase means I really messed up, then you appear to have no knowledge of the English language either.

Yeah, I messed up.... As did Spot when he spelt Savile Incorrectly. That's life Rat Boy, people make mistakes. I have no shame at all In admitting that i made a mistake and am probably likely to make more In the future. Now what's your problem?

Popcorn time ?

Bruv;1375517 wrote: Popcorn time ?


Butter or toffee?

theia;1375518 wrote: Butter or toffee?


Butter please with a nice coffee.......shall I put the kettle on ?

oscar;1375516 wrote: Hang On Rat Boy, I said In my reply, 'I made a mistake'.... now If you have trouble understanding that phrase means I really messed up, then you appear to have no knowledge of the English language either.

Yeah, I messed up.... As did Spot when he spelt Savile Incorrectly. That's life Rat Boy, people make mistakes. I have no shame at all In admitting that i made a mistake and am probably likely to make more In the future. Now what's your problem?Leave Spot out of your admission, Oscar, that's part of the growing up process. Accept responsibility on your own. Then we can work on the name-calling.

Who else could do with a nice calming coffee while Im in the kitchen?

Ahso!;1375521 wrote: Leave Spot out of your admission, Oscar, that's part of the growing up process. Accept responsibility on your own. Then we can work on the name-calling.


Funny, I notice that you have not posted on any other thread today, only the one where Spot has posted and there you are within seconds, up his arsse like a rat up a drainpipe.

All right Rat Boy, I made a mistake leaving Spot out of the equation.... Now, would you care to discuss this man crush you have or Is It latent desires that you are trying to supress? Could account for your anger.

Bruv;1375523 wrote: Who else could do with a nice calming coffee while Im in the kitchen? I'm doing fish finger sarnie's as we speak.... fancy one?

If your making the coffee, three sugars please.

oscar;1375525 wrote: I'm doing fish finger sarnie's as we speak.... fancy one?

If your making the coffee, three sugars please.
Best offer I have had for ages......not too much butter.

Bruv;1375528 wrote: Best offer I have had for ages......not too much butter. Brown sauce?

oscar;1375524 wrote: Funny, I notice that you have not posted on any other thread today, only the one where Spot has posted and there you are within seconds, up his arsse like a rat up a drainpipe.

All right Rat Boy, I made a mistake leaving Spot out of the equation.... Now, would you care to discuss this man crush you have or Is It latent desires that you are trying to supress? Could account for your anger.Almost, sweetie, now try leaving me out and we're there. Go on, I know you can do this.

Ahso!;1375530 wrote: Almost, sweetie, now try leaving me out and we're there. Go on, I know you can do this.


Try leaving you out???????????? :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Didn't your Pa tell you, that If you stick your nose In, In the first Instance, your likely to get punched on the nose.

Try leaving me out :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Now who's the cry baby? :yh_rotfl

This part is a major problem for you, I see. You appear to be somewhat obsessed with me. Work on it in your head while you're doing all those chores that bind you and let me know when you're ready to advance to the next level. K?

Ahso!;1375534 wrote: This part is a major problem for you, I see. You appear to be somewhat obsessed with me. Work on it in your head while you're doing all those chores that bind you and let me know when you're ready to advance to the next level. K?


Obsessed with you???????????????? :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Let's put this Into perspective shall we as you seem to be having great difficulty here.

Obsession with someone doesn't mean you have them on Ignore for months as I have you.

I have never read the threads you post and only read what you have written when you write on my threads or others that I am Interested In.

In the main, I Ignore your posts and take no Interest In them and do not quote you unless you choose to bandy Insults around,

Now, If you can find some Obsession there, best of luck to you.

Now, for example, my logging onto a racing website every night to get the ground conditions for a race.. Or going to Paul Nicholls twitter page every day to get the low down on runners, that could be classed as an obsession.... but sharing a few posts on a forum???????? If you think that's obsession, you need help quick



:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Tell me oscar, are there any other even slightly active forums where you have a working account at the moment and enjoy posting?

spot;1375551 wrote: Tell me oscar, are there any other even slightly active forums where you have a working account at the moment and enjoy posting? These days I have time for one forum only.

Now If your trying to make a point about other forums that as soon as you joined another forum, most of the members up and left finding more fun with Lady Cop at Mock.

Even more worrying was that within moments of you registering on that other forum, Ahso was right behind you registering as 'Balarmy'. Funny, as soon as you stopped posting there, so did he...

oscar;1375553 wrote: These days I have time for one forum only.You have no idea how delighted I am to hear that.

So, are there any other even slightly active forums where you have a working account at the moment and enjoy posting? You'll notice I didn't ask whether you're currently posting there or not.

spot;1375555 wrote: You have no idea how delighted I am to hear that.

So, are there any other even slightly active forums where you have a working account at the moment and enjoy posting? You'll notice I didn't ask whether you're currently posting there or not.
If you want accuracy, then I made one post another forum last night, the first In about 5 months and that was only because some members were pondering my absence.

I am still a member of another forum that I enjoy but do not have time to post there these days.

I am sure you limit your posting to one forum Spot because no-one else would tolerate your abusive, racist bile at the USA with every turn.

There was a time when this forum was vibrant In the extreme yet It was you who saw off decent, good members who contributed a great deal here, people I am still In touch with.

The list is endless, Jester, Clancy, Lady Cop, Red Glitter, G Man, to name just a few. Believe It or not Spot ( because you believe the centre of this forum is you ) those members were valuable to this forum. Your problem was simply that they told you what shyte you talked.

If you have such an Issue with me, then I would quite happily close my account. You however centre your life around this forum and use It to prostitute your racist bile against the USA and anyone who doesn't lap your every word which Is merely re-written from google In an attempt to Impress the underlings.

You really need to address your own Inferiority complex which Is what leads you to assume you are the life force of this forum....

oscar;1375556 wrote: I am still a member of another forum that I enjoy but do not have time to post there these days.That's ideal then.

If you have such an Issue with me, then I would quite happily close my account.Regardless of what issue I have with you I think that sounds a very desirable outcome.

spot;1375561 wrote: That's ideal then.

Regardless of what issue I have with you I think that sounds a very desirable outcome. What and remove the one member here who has the balls to tell you that your talking crap? That is the Ideal scenario for one who possess's the self Imposed delusions of grandeur that you seem to have, to remove anyone who does not soak up every google copied word you write.

Look at the facts Spot... In the past, I joined three other forums. Every now and then, I get an e mail saying that I haven't posted for a while, When you joined one of those forums, members didn't just leave, there was a mass exodus to the point that Mock was resurrected simply for them to all stay together without you. Surely that tells you something? All the members here who have left because of you are written off as stalkers or worse by yourself.

I have said before, If you can not handle the fact that a forum Is about other people with different views than yours, then open a blog account where no-one can argue with you because that's basically all you want, members telling you how wonderful you are.

get over It Spot, you are a very small fish In a very large ocean.

Thank you for your view. You're gone now, are you?

spot;1375563 wrote: Thank you for your view. You're gone now, are you? Nope still here.

Here's a thought Spot... Now I know It's whacky and unconventional and might need a little time to absorb but here goes.

How about the Idea, that I and other members come here to post with other members other than you?

Yep, I know that's off the wall what with you being the centre of FG but It's just a thought. How about the thought that a forum is based around many members and not just one?

oscar;1375564 wrote: Nope still here.

Here's a thought Spot... Now I know It's whacky and unconventional and might need a little time to absorb but here goes.

How about the Idea, that I and other members come here to post with other members other than you?

Yep, I know that's off the wall what with you being the centre of FG but It's just a thought. How about the thought that a forum is based around many members and not just one?


I'm not interested. You seem to have stepped over a threshold into new territory. I'm going to continue posting on this site. You, on the other hand, are not.

spot;1375566 wrote: I'm not interested. You seem to have stepped over a threshold into new territory. I'm going to continue posting on this site. You, on the other hand, are not.
Gosh, such bitterness when faced with the facts. However, all can see exactly who started this Spot.

Ahso!;1375506 wrote: None! Some may have left because they were unable to understand what Spot posts; or were crybabies who became easily offended due to their silly patriotic posture; many, I imagine, didn't appreciate being asked to actually provide evidence for the claims they made. Those I mention, like you've pointed out in this thread about yourself, are victims of themselves. Spot is not bitter, he's honest. A lot of people don't like what illuminates in the bright light of honesty.


Spot, isn't it about time to fart so Ahso can catch his breath?

SnoozeAgain;1375575 wrote: Spot, isn't it about time to fart so Ahso can catch his breath?I've no control over what the chap posts and most of the time I find his support inconvenient. You're addressing the wrong poster. By all means persuade him to stop doing it if you can.

SnoozeAgain;1375575 wrote: Spot, isn't it about time to fart so Ahso can catch his breath?That's cute, Snoozie Pooh. I didn't know you were the jealous type.

spot;1375577 wrote: I've no control over what the chap posts and most of the time I find his support inconvenient. You're addressing the wrong poster. By all means persuade him to stop doing it if you can.It's not support, I'm merely addressing what I observe. I'm permitted to do that, am I not?

Ahso!;1375594 wrote: It's not support, I'm merely addressing what I observe. I'm permitted to do that, am I not?


Yes, as long as it is within the ToS

Ahso!;1375591 wrote: That's cute, Snoozie Pooh. I didn't know you were the jealous type.


I was going to make a rectum joke but I thought better of it. I laughed though.