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The first man in the world to run a disco, the first man in the world to stand in front of two decks and play them as a DJ. Eighty four all out. I can't think there's anyone on the planet with a bad word to say about him, his was as useful and interesting a life as can be lived. Well done Sir Jimmy, and thank you.

How's about that then.

R.I.P Jimmy

Eccentric and strange fellow, a one off.

One "L".

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And the band was Shawaddywaddy

SnoozeAgain;1373758 wrote: One "L".Well bugger me, so it is. I'm mortified. Thank you Snooze, I knew you were worth begging to post here again.

A sad day indeed - rarely has one man done so much or done so much for others - RIP.

For anyone who saw the sickening, pathetic attempt at character assassination by Tony Blackburn on yesterday's news, there's a direct counter to his repetitive Jimmy No-Friends jibe at BBC News - Sir Jimmy 'was no loner'. Why they let plastic squits like Blackburn pollute a live news assessment of the life of someone who died hours before is a complete mystery, the man's a smug self-deluded egotistical self-publicist and always has been. I'd be hard pressed to distinguish him from the equally repellent Michael Winner in that regard, they both seem to have had permanent grins stapled to their faces.

Why character assassination ?

It was a genuine personal opinion of someone Blackburn had worked with, it actually coincides with my assessment of the man too.

Bruv;1373831 wrote: Why character assassination ?

It was a genuine personal opinion of someone Blackburn had worked with, it actually coincides with my assessment of the man too.


Perhaps the article I quoted in my previous post will convince you otherwise then.

If Jimmy Savile held Tony Blackburn at arms' length that just shows taste and good sense on his part.

spot;1373832 wrote: Perhaps the article I quoted in my previous post will convince you otherwise then.

If Jimmy Savile held Tony Blackburn at arms' length that just shows taste and good sense on his part.
You might have added "In My Opinion" and declared your dislike of Blackburn, and it might have made sense.

Don't know the origin but a famous adage goes along the lines that All men have several faces that they show to the world, their mother, and their wife, that could be the case here ?

Bruv;1373838 wrote: You might have added "In My Opinion" and declared your dislike of Blackburn, and it might have made sense.It's not a matter of my opinion, it's the content of the linked article that tells the message. My total lifelong disdain of Tony Blackburn is immaterial.

spot;1373840 wrote: It's not a matter of my opinion, it's the content of the linked article that tells the message. My total lifelong disdain of Tony Blackburn is immaterial.


So even the logic of the Spot meister can be coloured by his own personal preferences.

Doesn't alter the old adage as quoted, maybe they didn't gel, people are like that.

spot;1373830 wrote: For anyone who saw the sickening, pathetic attempt at character assassination by Tony Blackburn on yesterday's news, there's a direct counter to his repetitive Jimmy No-Friends jibe at BBC News - Sir Jimmy 'was no loner'. Why they let plastic squits like Blackburn pollute a live news assessment of the life of someone who died hours before is a complete mystery, the man's a smug self-deluded egotistical self-publicist and always has been. I'd be hard pressed to distinguish him from the equally repellent Michael Winner in that regard, they both seem to have had permanent grins stapled to their faces.


Blackburn spent many, many years working with Jimmy Savile so why should he not be asked to comment?

In fact, I commend anyone who tells It like It is. All this old bollocks of not speaking Ill of the dead. Savile was a very difficult and complex man.

Has recent revelations changed opinions about the icon that was Jimmy Savile ?

I was wondering, under the circumstances, whether this thread could be shredded into tiny pieces and burnt

Bruv;1407356 wrote: Has recent revelations changed opinions about the icon that was Jimmy Savile ?


The one opinion that comes out screaming is that, if it was an "open secret" within the BBC then there is both corporate and personal responsibility for the fact that it was not stopped at the time.

Tacit acceptance, in my opinion, makes each and every one of them accomplices.

Bruv;1407356 wrote: Has recent revelations changed opinions about the icon that was Jimmy Savile ?


Yes...it's time for the complainants to be heard now

oscar;1373865 wrote: Blackburn spent many, many years working with Jimmy Savile so why should he not be asked to comment?

In fact, I commend anyone who tells It like It is. All this old bollocks of not speaking Ill of the dead. Savile was a very difficult and complex man.


I suspect this was plagiarized. Quick koan, scour the internet!

Don't we have another thread on this fella that is going another direction? I thought I looked him up the other day.. reminded me of the guy that played scrooge in the old black and white movie 'a christmas carol'

flopstock;1407372 wrote: Don't we have another thread on this fella that is going another direction? I thought I looked him up the other day.. reminded me of the guy that played scrooge in the old black and white movie 'a christmas carol'


This thread was in memory, the other one is about the revelations found since then.

He was a national treasure, eccentric weirdo, laterly discovered more weird than first thought.

It's a very sad state of affairs for all concerned including his family who i see today have had his headstone removed from the graveyard out of respect for the public. I'm pleased to read that the police are looking at all those who turned a blind eye but i feel the full extent of who covered up what, may never come to light.

Ever notice how creepy folks look after folks start with the accusations?

I am virtually speechless about the most recent revelations......am I allowed to use the only language suitable for this ars#hol# Bryn ?

My amazement isn't only limited to the man himself but the authorities too.................the last victim as recent as a few years ago.



BBC News

The operation has found 34 rapes.

18 under 10 year old girls were abused.

Abused a dying patient...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-450.html

I don't think a lot has really changed since the 60's and 70's - look at that Bradford case when the police did nothing because they viewed the witnesses as being of type that probably asked for it even if they were only ten. Low status women have a real problem being believed sometimes.

100,000 assaults. 1,000 rapists sentenced. Shockingly low conviction rates revealed - Crime - UK - The Independent

Not helped by papers like the daily mail highlighting the report alongside links in to stories that are basically cor blimey look at the tits on her.

On the other hand it has maybe at least shattered the delusion that things were so much better in the past when child abuse didn't happen

gmc;1416290 wrote: I don't think a lot has really changed since the 60's and 70's - look at that Bradford case when the police did nothing because they viewed the witnesses as being of type that probably asked for it even if they were only ten. Low status women have a real problem being believed sometimes.

100,000 assaults. 1,000 rapists sentenced. Shockingly low conviction rates revealed - Crime - UK - The Independent

Not helped by papers like the daily mail highlighting the report alongside links in to stories that are basically cor blimey look at the tits on her.

On the other hand it has maybe at least shattered the delusion that things were so much better in the past when child abuse didn't happen


A lot has change since the 60's and 70's bearing in mind many of Savile's victims were over decades right up to the 2000's...

I agree that In the 60's and 70's the attitudes of police toward low status women was appalling. Remember those were the days when even when your husband battered you on a daily basis the police didn't Intervene as It was viewed as ' A domestic dispute'.

However, the catalogue of Savile's abuse is not about attitudes of police toward the victims. Compare the cases of the Asian grooming scandal of today and Savile... For over ten years police knew Asians were raping young children In the North of England and didn't listen to the girls because of low status, that Is true but with Savile It was about one man who was extremely wealthy and having enough control because of his status to gain keys to hospitals and children's homes. Many of Savile's victims were abused when he was alone with them and It was a case of their word against his but also because of the CPS who are reluctant to prosecute when it's his word against theirs and a conviction may be unlikely. The fault In these present climes lies with the CPS not so much the police attitude. Remember, Savile was Investigated by police several times so It wasn't a case of them not believing the victim but the CPS declining to prosecute.

As for the Daily Mail your spouting rubbish again.... go on... show me one Instance where the Mail has said basically 'look at the tits on her'....

What about the catholic church turning a blind eye to paedophile priests? It's the same thing in essence, persons of low status making accusations plus in this case a powerful organisations prepared to protect itself no matter what the cost to the victims or morality of the decision. They are even on record as blaming the victim for tempting the priests. The criticism they dismiss as simply being anti religion and all the other churches worry about the constant attacks on religion in our society so they prefer to concentrate on the decline of family values while pondering the evil of secular society that allows the horror of gay marriage in the interest of equality for all.

From the same page as you link.

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gmc;1416331 wrote: What about the catholic church turning a blind eye to paedophile priests? It's the same thing in essence, persons of low status making accusations plus in this case a powerful organisations prepared to protect itself no matter what the cost to the victims or morality of the decision. They are even on record as blaming the victim for tempting the priests. The criticism they dismiss as simply being anti religion and all the other churches worry about the constant attacks on religion in our society so they prefer to concentrate on the decline of family values while pondering the evil of secular society that allows the horror of gay marriage in the interest of equality for all.

From the same page as you link.

] The Catholic Church turning a blind eye to abuse Is very similar to the Savile case but not similar to the Asian scandal.

What the Catholic Priest and Savile had In common Is the power of the body behind the men. Savile abused children when they were alone. Even If the victim was willing to report him, what deterred many of them was knowing the full weight of organisations such as the BBC... taking Savile on meant taking on the BBC and an army of lawyers. Victims of Catholic Priests felt the same knowing the priest had the full weight of The Catholic church behind them. It's about power whereas the grooming scandal was down to just police apathy and the CPS not following through.

So where has the Mail said ' Look at the tits on her' ?

The Police had information about Saviles deeds, they failed to link up that information between forces.

There were girls complaining, they thought they were alone in their complaints.

The nature of Police investigation is for them to test whether the victim will stand up to close scrutiny.

Frightened children need encouragement and support and some knowledge that they are not the only person to think this famous super star is bad.

Bruv;1416340 wrote: The Police had information about Saviles deeds, they failed to link up that information between forces.

There were girls complaining, they thought they were alone in their complaints.

The nature of Police investigation is for them to test whether the victim will stand up to close scrutiny.

Frightened children need encouragement and support and some knowledge that they are not the only person to think this famous super star is bad.


You're right and It's why once a few victims had found the courage to come forward, It opened the floodgates for the others... safety In numbers but they're reluctant to make a complaint If they think they are the only one.

oscar;1416335 wrote: The Catholic Church turning a blind eye to abuse Is very similar to the Savile case but not similar to the Asian scandal.

What the Catholic Priest and Savile had In common Is the power of the body behind the men. Savile abused children when they were alone. Even If the victim was willing to report him, what deterred many of them was knowing the full weight of organisations such as the BBC... taking Savile on meant taking on the BBC and an army of lawyers. Victims of Catholic Priests felt the same knowing the priest had the full weight of The Catholic church behind them. It's about power whereas the grooming scandal was down to just police apathy and the CPS not following through.

So where has the Mail said ' Look at the tits on her' ?


It doesn't, nor did I say that ir does. What I actually said was

Not helped by papers like the daily mail highlighting the report alongside links in to stories that are basically cor blimey look at the tits on her.




I agree it was police apathy but I also think there was a strong element of these are the type of girls that want it anyway. Can't find the report just now but I'm sure one of the police actually said the girls were choosing to be there because of who they were perceived to be (of little worth) they didn't bother. If no one collates such reports it just seems an isolated incident with no chance of getting to court. Same with the saville case, If the girls had known they were not the only ones reporting they were assaulted it would not have been their word against his.

gmc;1416365 wrote: If the girls had known they were not the only ones reporting they were assaulted it would not have been their word against his.


I heard it was policy not to let them know of any other incidents, forget the logic behind it now though.

Bruv;1416371 wrote: I heard it was policy not to let them know of any other incidents, forget the logic behind it now though.


Fear of being seen as encouraging someone to complain perhaps? Imagine how that would sound in the words of the defence lawyer.

India's women are speaking out about rape. When will Britain's women do the same? - Comment - Voices - The Independent

The children abused by Savile were also doubted (or doubted themselves) because he was a super-celeb who brought sparkle to hospitals, the BBC, the drabness of life. What allowed him to carry on for decades was not a set of misogynist values, but denial. True, none of our religious and political leaders has behaved badly since the full truth came out. However, I reckon more people knew what was going on, including the police and other DJs. Celebrities apparently feel that fame gives them the right to abuse young males and females with impunity.