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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:36 am
by gmc
So was there a third species? and could Neanderthals be alive and well and living in all of us?

BBC News - Ancient humans, dubbed 'Denisovans', interbred with us

BBC News - Neanderthal genes 'survive in us'

BBC News - Neanderthal genes 'survive in us'

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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:56 am
by spot
There seems to be a very diluted concept of species these days. When I was a lad it was anything female I couldn't produce reproducing offspring with. I wonder what word means that now? And I wonder what "species" is meant to imply?

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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:18 pm
by LarsMac
That was my take.

Species were defined by whether they could interbreed, or not.

That would make Homo Neanderthalus and Homo Sapiens subspecies rather than separate species within the Genus Homo.



More correctly, Homo Sapiens Sapiens, and Homo Sapiens Neanderthalus?

THAT should scramble the philosophies, a bit.

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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:22 pm
by LarsMac
Interesting read.

Targeted Investigation of the Neandertal Genome by Array-Based Sequence Capture

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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:43 pm
by LarsMac
And this new critter, Denisovan?

Curious to see the gene analysis of the American aboriginals. How close are they to the Han?

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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:30 am
by Scrat
These beings were simply different breeds of humans and yes they interbred with one another where they met. Why all the fuss?

Great find.

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:23 pm
by gmc
LarsMac;1348030 wrote: And this new critter, Denisovan?

Curious to see the gene analysis of the American aboriginals. How close are they to the Han?


Th natives of patagonia have more in common with those in australia than with those in north america.

Have a look for the seven daughters of Eve by Brian Sykes



seven daughters of Eve by Brian Sykes

The Seven Daughters of Eve: Bryan Sykes Personalizes the mtDNA Clans that Populated Europe



worth a read.

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:06 pm
by Saint_
It was my understanding that the Cro-Magnons wiped out the Neanderthals by killing them off and interbreeding with their females, so I guess this makes sense.