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Massive solar storm to hit Earth in 2012 with 'force of 100m bombs'

Thu, Aug 26 12:50 PM

Melbourne, Aug 26 (ANI): Astronomers are predicting that a massive solar storm, much bigger in potential than the one that caused spectacular light shows on Earth earlier this month, is to strike our planet in 2012 with a force of 100 million hydrogen bombs.

Several US media outlets have reported that NASA was warning the massive flare this month was just a precursor to a massive solar storm building that had the potential to wipe out the entire planet's power grid.

Despite its rebuttal, NASA's been watching out for this storm since 2006 and reports from the US this week claim the storms could hit on that most Hollywood of disaster dates - 2012.

Massive solar storm to hit Earth in 2012 with 'force of 100m bombs' - Yahoo! India News

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It's thought provoking isn't it. There are many 'doom' predictions for 2012 from Nostradamus, Mayan beliefs etc.... some scientific, some religious etc. I find this subject fascinating.

I thought it was definitely "news worthy".

Certainly is.

Not meaning to sound frivolous or selfish but just hope we get through the London Olympics and my sons 40th birthday without mishap

December 21st seems to be a date that stands out in some predictions

Does this event not depend on the Earth being at the same angle of rotation around the sun as the solar storm ejecta? It seems reliant on chance to a large extent. Surely dozens of such powerful solar storms could happen with no impact on Earth at all.

I thought given that the sunspot activity that is related to the solar storms ran on an 11 year cycle and that therefore this has happened many, many times before in the 2,000,000 years humanity has been around, there isn't that much to be concerned about anyway. The ejecta that might hurt us has to be sent in exactly the right direction at exactly the right time to actually harm us. My impression is that this is very, very unlikely. And given we have an atmosphere and life on the planet, it certainly hasn't happened in a very, very long time. Billions of years, probably.

spot;1329817 wrote: Does this event not depend on the Earth being at the same angle of rotation around the sun as the solar storm ejecta? It seems reliant on chance to a large extent. Surely dozens of such powerful solar storms could happen with no impact on Earth at all.


Seems like a reasonable enough question. I guess it all depends on if the flare or flares are coming from only one side of the Sun, or both sides of the Sun, or if they shoot out like a beam or come out like a spread out wave, I mean there are many different possibilities. Given the Earth's history though, anything seems to be possible when it comes to the Sun and its relationship with the Earth.

As far as being concerned, related to what ClodHopper said, I am not really at all. Even if the thing hits the Earth full force. If we die we die, if we live we live. I'm just happy to know that the people of the Earth and the people in position of extreme power over civilizations on the Earth do not control the Sun or any other aspect of the Universe. They can manipulate certain things, yes, but they will never be able to control them.

Also...considering that the Earth is merely the size of a pinhead compared to the Sun, I guess it's safe to say that we are going to experience some kind of effects if a massive event like this takes place. And I'm sure some of you are already aware of the fact that I do believe it is going to.

TruthBringer;1329824 wrote: Seems like a reasonable enough question. I guess it all depends on if the flare or flares are coming from only one side of the Sun, or both sides of the Sun, or if they shoot out like a beam or come out like a spread out wave, I mean there are many different possibilities.
There's a photograph of a coronal mass ejection seen sideways on at Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) which gives an indication of how tightly directed they are.

Solar flares have recently become a concern because our magnetic poles are shifting. The Aurora Borealis is caused by solar radiation hitting our magnetic field. If the poles shift substantially either way, the flares would hit the magetic flux side on and break through to the surface of the Earth. This, in turn, would wipe out our electrical/electronic systems. the damage is likely to be severe under these circumstances, aside from severe burns being inflicted on anyone struck by the radiation.

NASA studies solar flare dangers to Earth-based technology | TG Daily

A Super Solar Flare - NASA Science

portland imc - 2009.06.16 - Solar Cycles and the Earth’s Weakening Magnetic Field

With any luck at all, we ought to get some spectacular light shows!

btw, nice thread, TB.

Clodhopper;1329942 wrote: With any luck at all, we ought to get some spectacular light shows!

btw, nice thread, TB.


Thanks.

this is just an addition of a possible cause of Earth's Transformation (not destruction) as I believe so.

And if all of these catastrophes took place at the same time, I wonder if there will be any survivors... (mentioning planet Nibiru, polar shift, etc.)

spectator;1330469 wrote: this is just an addition of a possible cause of Earth's Transformation (not destruction) as I believe so.

And if all of these catastrophes took place at the same time, I wonder if there will be any survivors... (mentioning planet Nibiru, polar shift, etc.)


I agree with you it is not total destruction of the Earth. Just a major change on the Earth.

You seem to know your stuff.

I would suggest everyone go out and get storable food and water just in case. As much as you can. We are running out of time here.

Does that mean it won't be a white Christmas???

:-6 :yh_sweat

TruthBringer;1329804 wrote: Massive solar storm to hit Earth in 2012 with 'force of 100m bombs'

Thu, Aug 26 12:50 PM

Melbourne, Aug 26 (ANI): Astronomers are predicting that a massive solar storm, much bigger in potential than the one that caused spectacular light shows on Earth earlier this month, is to strike our planet in 2012 with a force of 100 million hydrogen bombs.

Forgive me, what conclusion did you come to that caused you to you equate the above statement (red highlight)

with the statement below (red highlight)

TruthBringer;1330478 wrote: I agree with you it is not total destruction of the Earth. Just a major change on the Earth.


binbag.

Reprinted from Sun storm to hit with 'force of 100m bombs' | News.com.au

AFTER 10 years of comparative slumber, the sun is waking up - and it's got astronomers on full alert.

This week several US media outlets reported that NASA was warning the massive flare that caused spectacular light shows on Earth earlier this month was just a precursor to a massive solar storm building that had the potential to wipe out the entire planet's power grid.

NASA has since rebutted those reports, saying it could come "100 years away or just 100 days", but an Australian astronomer says the space community is betting on the sooner scenario rather than the latter.

Despite its rebuttal, NASA's been watching out for this storm since 2006 and reports from the US this week claim the storms could hit on that most Hollywood of disaster dates - 2012.

Similar storms back in 1859 and 1921 caused worldwide chaos, wiping out telegraph wires on a massive scale.

The 2012 storm has the potential to be even more disruptive.

"The general consensus among general astronomers (and certainly solar astronomers) is that this coming Solar maximum (2012 but possibly later into 2013) will be the most violent in 100 years," astronomy lecturer and columnist Dave Reneke said.

"A bold statement and one taken seriously by those it will affect most, namely airline companies, communications companies and anyone working with modern GPS systems.

"They can even trip circuit breakers and knock out orbiting satellites, as has already been done this year."

Regardless, the point astronomers are making is it doesn't matter if the next Solar Max isn't the worst in history, or even as bad as the 1859 storms.

It's the fact that there hasn't been one since the mid-80s. Commodore had just launched the Amiga and the only digital storm making the news was Tetris.

No one really knows what effect the 2012-2013 Solar Max will have on today's digital-reliant society.

Dr Richard Fisher, director of NASA’s Heliophysics division, told Mr Reneke the super storm would hit like "a bolt of lightning, causing catastrophic consequences for the world’s health, emergency services and national security unless precautions are taken.

US government officials earlier this year took part in a "tabletop exercise" in Boulder, Colorado, to map out what might happen if the Earth was hit with a storm as intense as the 1859 and 1921 storms.

The 1859 storm was of a similar size to that predicted by NASA to hit within the next three years – one of decreased activity, but more powerful eruptions.

NASA said that a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences found that if a similar storm occurred today, it could cause “$1 to 2 trillion in damages to society's high-tech infrastructure and require four to 10 years for complete recovery.

Staff at the Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado, which hosted the exercise, said with our reliance on satellite technology, such an event could hit the Earth with the magnitude of a global hurricane or earthquake.

The reason for the concern comes as the sun enters a phase known as Solar Cycle 24.

All the alarming news building around the event is being fuelled by two things.

The first is a book by disaster expert Lawrence E. Joseph, Guilty of Apocalypse: The Case Against 2012, in which he claims the "Hurricane Katrina for the Earth" may cause unprecedented planetwide upheaval.

The second is a theory that claims sunspots travel through the sun on a "conveyor belt" similar to the Great Ocean Conveyor Belt which controls weather on Earth.

The belt carries magnetic fields through the sun. When they hit the surface, they explode as sunspots.

Weakened, they then travel back through the sun's core to recharge.

It all happens on a rough 40-50-year cycle, according to solar physicist David Hathaway of the National Space Science and Technology Center in the US.

He says when the belt speeds up, lots of magnetic fields are collected, which points to more intense future activity.

"The belt was turning fast in 1986-1996," Prof Hathaway said.

"Old magnetic fields swept up then should reappear as big sunspots in 2010-2011."

Most experts agree, although those who put the date of Solar Max in 2012 are getting the most press.

They claim satellites will be aged by 50 years, rendering GPS even more useless than ever, and the blast will have the equivalent energy of 100 million hydrogen bombs.

“We know it is coming but we don’t know how bad it is going to be, Dr Fisher told Mr Reneke in the most recent issue of Australasian Science.

“Systems will just not work. The flares change the magnetic field on the Earth and it’s rapid, just like a lightning bolt.

"That’s the solar effect.

There is no need to spread panic throughout the forum suggesting that everyone buy emergency water and food.

If anything be prepared for some distruption to local power grids and especially communications (radio, TV and cell phones).

tektrek;1330720 wrote: There is no need to spread panic throughout the forum suggesting that everyone buy emergency water and food.

If anything be prepared for some distruption to local power grids and especially communications (radio, TV and cell phones).


You have no clue just how bad it could get. Do you.....

binbag;1330714 wrote: Forgive me, what conclusion did you come to that caused you to you equate the above statement (red highlight)

with the statement below (red highlight)



binbag.


Can't the article be wrong about certain aspects of the Truth?

TruthBringer;1330731 wrote: You have no clue just how bad it could get. Do you.....


I think I have a better understanding of the situation than you do.

What qualifies you to come out querying me? Are you an astrophysicist or similar? Have you lived through past solar storms?

TruthBringer;1330732 wrote: Can't the article be wrong about certain aspects of the Truth?


Why do people feel that there is something being hidden by government agencies?

Why are there so many anti-conspiracy groups?

Makes me wonder what hope humanity has for the future when people cannot trust one another.

Next thing people will be saying is that the HAARP program or Pine Gap will either exacerbate the problems ahead or on the other hand save us from devastation.

Hmmm, pseudo science from armchair experts who seem to know better than those who spend an entire lifetime in the scientific fields and still can't find the answers to everything in the universe. Why do you feel better qualified?

tektrek;1330737 wrote: Why do people feel that there is something being hidden by government agencies?

Why are there so many anti-conspiracy groups?

Makes me wonder what hope humanity has for the future when people cannot trust one another.


Maybe it has to do with a little something called history.

tektrek;1330735 wrote:

What qualifies you to come out querying me? Are you an astrophysicist or similar?


If I say that I am does that mean I get to tell you to store up food and water just in case of an emergency?

tektrek;1330720 wrote: there is no need to spread panic throughout the forum suggesting that everyone buy emergency water and food.

If anything be prepared for some distruption to local power grids and especially communications (radio, tv and cell phones).


lol :wah:

Tektrek, meet truthbringer, he is the FG oracle

TruthBringer;1330741 wrote: If I say that I am does that mean I get to tell you to store up food and water just in case of an emergency?


Well, are you qualified and if so in what field(s)?

Have you warned your local or state CERT of this matter? They may have overlooked this important point.

mikeinie;1330748 wrote: lol :wah:

Tektrek, meet truthbringer, he is the FG oracle


Oh really? I'm not terribly impressed, in fact I'm underwhelmed. :yh_rotfl

tektrek;1330754 wrote: Oh really? I'm not terribly impressed, in fact I'm underwhelmed. :yh_rotfl


Yeah. You'll learn it soon enough Tek. You stay at a place long enough and you'll get all kinds of nicknames. Some of them better than others.

Of course, just because you get called an Oracle, doesn't mean that you think of yourself as one. As I've said many times in the past, all I do is pass along information. That's it. Whether people want to believe it or not, that's up to them. But I have a funny feeling that me and Tek won't be seeing eye to eye on very much here.

Also, no. I am not an astrophysicist. I am not a geinocologist either, so I won't be attempting to have a monopoly on all information regarding the female vagina likewise.

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