New Software???

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:25 am

http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/news- ... pdate.html

Anyone know whats happening about this

:-2

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:52 am

kazalala;1316028 wrote: http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/news- ... pdate.html

Anyone know whats happening about this

:-2

Not heard anything for a long time

Post by **spot** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:56 am

It was posted when vBulletin's version 4 beta testing was in progress and would have involved a considerable amount of work to transform the bare release into the ForumGarden look and functionality. Quite a number of vBulletin sites have remained on version 3 and not attempted the major upgrade.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:18 pm

Bryn Mawr;1316059 wrote: Not heard anything for a long time

thought not as this is about the third time i asked and usually dont get any answer at all

:wah:

spot;1316064 wrote: It was posted when vBulletin's version 4 beta testing was in progress and would have involved a considerable amount of work to transform the bare release into the ForumGarden look and functionality. Quite a number of vBulletin sites have remained on version 3 and not attempted the major upgrade.

so does that mean he changed his mind and we aint getting the new stuff

Post by **spot** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:29 pm

kazalala;1316104 wrote: so does that mean he changed his mind and we aint getting the new stuff

I'm quite sure the site's software will continue to upgrade over time, though I've no idea what direction the changes will take. What's running seems robust.

What changes in particular were you hoping to see?

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:34 pm

kazalala;1316104 wrote: thought not as this is about the third time i asked and usually dont get any answer at all

:wah:

so does that mean he changed his mind and we aint getting the new stuff

Your guess is good as anyone's.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:51 am

spot;1316144 wrote: I'm quite sure the site's software will continue to upgrade over time, though I've no idea what direction the changes will take. What's running seems robust.

What changes in particular were you hoping to see?

Just what TS said was coming basically. I have copied his post (below) from the link i gave

Hi Everyone!

Just to let you know, I'm beginning the upgrade process to get the server and ForumGarden ready for its new software.

There are several software items that I have to upgrade first. I'll then create a new test environment for ForumGarden and attempt to upgrade using this special install environment. If all goes well, ForumGarden will be running on its new version of software in a few weeks.

The updated software will give everyone better control, more features, and fully integrates the forums, blogs, user areas, and (new) article sections.

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kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:53 am

Peg;1316158 wrote: Your guess is good as anyone's.

Oh dear:-3

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:10 am

I think he copied that from the beta 4 marketing blurb, none of it actually means anything.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:23 am

spot;1316180 wrote: I think he copied that from the beta 4 marketing blurb, none of it actually means anything.

really? well what a load of crap!:-5:mad:

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:32 am

kazalala;1316207 wrote: really? well what a load of crap!:-5:mad:

I'm still not sure what software changes you're looking for, or what you think they'll do that isn't already available here. We're on vBulletin 3.7.4, the latest release on version 3 is 3.8.5 and the stable version 4 is 4.0.5. Going to version 4 is a big step and would probably have an impact on the functionality here, pushing up to the latest version 3 release really wouldn't show much though it would be a good idea.

What's niggling in the back of your mind?

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:00 am

spot;1316209 wrote: I'm still not sure what software changes you're looking for, or what you think they'll do that isn't already available here. We're on vBulletin 3.7.4, the latest release on version 3 is 3.8.5 and the stable version 4 is 4.0.5. Going to version 4 is a big step and would probably have an impact on the functionality here, pushing up to the latest version 3 release really wouldn't show much though it would be a good idea.

What's niggling in the back of your mind?

i will tell you what's niggling in the back of my mind. I don't know much about computers or software technically, its not the fact of what software i am looking for, but TS posting that in my opinion, gave the impression new stuff was coming,, oooerr i wonder what it will be says i? sits about excitedly waiting ,, every now and then wondering if its nearly finished. Time goes on and i forget about it eventually but now and then it pops back in to my brain and i think hmmm wonder if thats still going ahead?,, i ask ,, no reply. Time goes on again etc.....

The updated software will give everyone better control, more features, and fully integrates the forums, blogs, user areas, and (new) article sections.

This sounds like, wow wonder what new stuff we are getting,,so what's niggling at the back of my mind is, why say it then decide not to bother then don't even bother to tell us you aint bothering. TS told me in a mail nearly a year ago he was looking at new software that would hopefully help with a lot of issues here. If he found out that indeed was not the case and the new software wasn't worth bothering with, he could have at least said so, informed mods, whatever.

Also to be honest im just asking a question thats all and hoping for an answer.

Mustang · Post by **Mustang** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:04 am

kazalala;1316028 wrote: http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/news- ... pdate.html

Anyone know whats happening about this

:-2

I sent an email and a link to this thread to TS with your inquiry Kazalala.

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:10 am

kazalala;1316230 wrote: Also to be honest im just asking a question thats all and hoping for an answer.

One can only hope that when he shows up he'll come into this thread and explain the hiatus. My own opinion is that more "facilities" are actually nasty add-ons that allow bragging rights over reputation or "juju" or "thanks" or even, god help us, "hug count". My preference tends toward stripped down lean hungry aggressive software rather than bloated stuff which strokes egos, but I'm often in a minority on matters like that.

I hope it's not me that's been chasing you round the board? I have horrid opinions but I'd hate to be a nuisance to anyone.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:16 am

spot;1316239 wrote: One can only hope that when he shows up he'll come into this thread and explain the hiatus. My own opinion is that more "facilities" are actually nasty add-ons that allow bragging rights over reputation or "juju" or "thanks" or even, god help us, "hug count". My preference tends toward stripped down lean hungry aggressive software rather than bloated stuff which strokes egos, but I'm often in a minority on matters like that.

I hope it's not me that's been chasing you round the board? I have horrid opinions but I'd hate to be a nuisance to anyone.

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotflno its certainly not you. You i could probably speak to about it if that was the case

i dunno exactly what new stuff was coming or wether i would like it ,,, it just bugged me is all:wah:

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:25 am

kazalala;1316230 wrote: i will tell you what's niggling in the back of my mind. I don't know much about computers or software technically, its not the fact of what software i am looking for, but TS posting that in my opinion, gave the impression new stuff was coming,, oooerr i wonder what it will be says i? sits about excitedly waiting ,, every now and then wondering if its nearly finished. Time goes on and i forget about it eventually but now and then it pops back in to my brain and i think hmmm wonder if thats still going ahead?,, i ask ,, no reply. Time goes on again etc.....

This sounds like, wow wonder what new stuff we are getting,,so what's niggling at the back of my mind is, why say it then decide not to bother then don't even bother to tell us you aint bothering. TS told me in a mail nearly a year ago he was looking at new software that would hopefully help with a lot of issues here. If he found out that indeed was not the case and the new software wasn't worth bothering with, he could have at least said so, informed mods, whatever.

Also to be honest im just asking a question thats all and hoping for an answer.I agree with you, Kaz. TS and I exchanged PM's a number of months ago regarding certain forum concerns and he indicated to me he was listening and interested in some changes but was waiting to 'hit the button on the upgrades' before doing so. In retrospect it now seems he was just buying time. For whatever reason TS is disengaged with this FG. Perhaps he believes its best days are behind it.

For what its worth, I suggest that those of you who are honestly concerned with this forum (and I assume that would be most of the supporting members) get together and decide whether or not you all want to let TS know that unless certain changes take place you are no longer going to post and moderate and see if he engages. At that point I suggest you all chip in and make him a good offer to buy the forum, and if he agrees to sell it, you can then administer it as you like similar to a co-op (Ben and Jerry's style).

There are plenty of alternatives out there. Spot has a nice little forum, Jazzy has one going that seems descent, and there are others, too. Change happens and as Nomad said, people come and people go. You all had a good run here and I hope you can salvage whatever it is you want to.

Good Luck!

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:47 am

Ahso!;1316248 wrote: I agree with you, Kaz. TS and I exchanged PM's a number of months ago regarding certain forum concerns and he indicated to me he was listening and interested in some changes but was waiting to 'hit the button on the upgrades' before doing so. In retrospect it now seems he was just buying time. For whatever reason TS is disengaged with this FG. Perhaps he believes its best days are behind it.

For what its worth, I suggest that those of you who are honestly concerned with this forum (and I assume that would be most of the supporting members) get together and decide whether or not you all want to let TS know that unless certain changes take place you are no longer going to post and moderate and see if he engages. At that point I suggest you all chip in and make him a good offer to buy the forum, and if he agrees to sell it, you can then administer it as you like similar to a co-op (Ben and Jerry's style).

There are plenty of alternatives out there. Spot has a nice little forum, Jazzy has one going that seems descent, and there are others, too. Change happens and as Nomad said, people come and people go. You all had a good run here and I hope you can salvage whatever it is you want to.

Good Luck!

yiou mentioned moderators there as well as members and i have to say ,, i feel a bit sorry for themn as they seem to have been left to get on with it:-3 a bit unfair considering they are doing a voluntary job

I mean they couldnt even answer me here so its obvious they havent been kept informed either

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:37 am

Ahso!;1316248 wrote: I agree with you, Kaz. TS and I exchanged PM's a number of months ago regarding certain forum concerns and he indicated to me he was listening and interested in some changes but was waiting to 'hit the button on the upgrades' before doing so. In retrospect it now seems he was just buying time. For whatever reason TS is disengaged with this FG. Perhaps he believes its best days are behind it.

For what its worth, I suggest that those of you who are honestly concerned with this forum (and I assume that would be most of the supporting members) get together and decide whether or not you all want to let TS know that unless certain changes take place you are no longer going to post and moderate and see if he engages. At that point I suggest you all chip in and make him a good offer to buy the forum, and if he agrees to sell it, you can then administer it as you like similar to a co-op (Ben and Jerry's style).

There are plenty of alternatives out there. Spot has a nice little forum, Jazzy has one going that seems descent, and there are others, too. Change happens and as Nomad said, people come and people go. You all had a good run here and I hope you can salvage whatever it is you want to.

Good Luck!
What does a forum go for now days?

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:41 am

YZGI;1316293 wrote: What does a forum go for now days?

Fresh, empty, ad-free and pristine? $120 a year fully licensed and hosted.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:48 am

spot;1316294 wrote: Fresh, empty, ad-free and pristine? $120 a year fully licensed and hosted.
How about an established forum such as FG?

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:21 am

YZGI;1316295 wrote: How about an established forum such as FG?

Whatever the market will bear, given the terms set by the seller.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:40 am

Spot, has the sparkly thread been removed? If its gone to compost is it still going? i contributed quite a lot to that thread and if its in compost now i cant participate in it any more:(:-5

Post by **spot** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:08 am

kazalala;1316443 wrote: Spot, has the sparkly thread been removed? If its gone to compost is it still going? i contributed quite a lot to that thread and if its in compost now i cant participate in it any more:(:-5

Yes it has, and I'm getting the decision reviewed. I hope to have the thread back on the main board within an hour or two.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:13 am

spot;1316450 wrote: Yes it has, and I'm getting the decision reviewed. I hope to have the thread back on the main board within an hour or two.

good luck!:)

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:14 am

by the way ,, i can afford 70 to 80 quid a year to own a forum;):D

Post by **spot** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:19 am

kazalala;1316454 wrote: by the way ,, i can afford 70 to 80 quid a year to own a forum;):D

Bloody hell... are you over eighteen?

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:22 am

spot;1316455 wrote: Bloody hell... are you over eighteen?

Just:D

Post by **spot** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:26 am

kazalala;1316456 wrote: Just:D

Every child protection monitoring service on the Internet probably screamed for supervisor attention at that last post. "Do you fancy a drink sometime" would be well out of order at this point.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:29 am

spot;1316457 wrote: Every child protection monitoring service on the Internet probably screamed for supervisor attention at that last post. "Do you fancy a drink sometime" would be well out of order at this point.

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl, i always fancy a drink;)no tthat im an alki or owt

no too late now everyone knows:wah: