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has anyone had it, did you get over it

seems to be a never ending story, feel so low all the time,no sure

how much more i can take,i try to be possative and get up with a

smile,but cant make it last,this has been going on now fora little

over 2 years, but if im honest not sure when i was last happy so

may be longer..

lonewolf65;1117231 wrote: has anyone had it, did you get over it

seems to be a never ending story, feel so low all the time,no sure

how much more i can take,i try to be possative and get up with a

smile,but cant make it last,this has been going on now fora little

over 2 years, but if im honest not sure when i was last happy so

may be longer..


are you on anti-depressants?

tis tough when things all over the place are rather depressing.

Anti depressants are helpful.

minks;1117233 wrote: tis tough when things all over the place are rather depressing.

Anti depressants are helpful.


hello my old friend..x how are u

ive been on anti deressants for 2 years different sorts they keep changing

cus they dont work, just waiting for some new ones now

it can take many years to find the right anti-depressant, have you tried any anxiety medications?

Odie;1117239 wrote: it can take many years to find the right anti-depressant, have you tried any anxiety medications?


not sure, these i had last time are mirtazapine they dont help but the knock

me out so anytime now ill be out for the count, having trouvle typing

only had it 30mins ago..

lonewolf65;1117236 wrote: hello my old friend..x how are u

ive been on anti deressants for 2 years different sorts they keep changing

cus they dont work, just waiting for some new ones now


x back at ya...

don't give up keep trying them keep pressing on with the doctors.

Beyond that I don't know, try and find something to do that brings you some joy and is a break from the gloom.

lonewolf65;1117244 wrote: not sure, these i had last time are mirtazapine they dont help but the knock

me out so anytime now ill be out for the count, having trouvle typing

only had it 30mins ago..


that is a regular anti-depressant, some do have side effects, perhaps this was one, just keep trying until you get one that is right for you......trust me, you will.

Are you having counselling as well, I tend to be a little dumbfounded that it is deemed ok to just keep handing out medication that isn't working.... two years, thats a long time!

Oh, Lonewolf...I'm sorry that you're suffering with depression. Wish I could help:-6Feel better, my friend..
















Hope is the Thing with Feathers




By: Emily Dickinson


"Hope" is the thing with feathers

That perches in the soul

And sings the tune without the words

And never stops at all,

And sweetest in the gale is heard;

And sore must be the storm

That could abash the little bird

That kept so many warm.

I've heard it in the chillest land

And on the strangest sea,

Yet never, in extremity,

It asked a crumb of me.

Youve got to get to the root of the depression, and examine it to even begin to feel well. I have experienced it, and I do understand that with some people it is chemical. To me, the best medicine is having trusted people to talk to to help sort out feelings. I hope you have that available to you.

weeder;1117394 wrote: Youve got to get to the root of the depression, and examine it to even begin to feel well. I have experienced it, and I do understand that with some people it is chemical. To me, the best medicine is having trusted people to talk to to help sort out feelings. I hope you have that available to you.




Thank u everyone, was a rough night,im not sure i should haveput this

on theforum,but istdone now,

i do need councling.im on a waiting list having moved to a new county

well i wish i hadnttaken those anti deressents last night i feel like

c---p....

Its good that you shared how you feel. And its not a problem. I wish the sun would shine there for you, and that you could take a walk. Watch the movie

Love Actually, or The Full Monty. You will feel better.

Have either of you tried meditation, it may help, it may not.....

If you go to youtube, search 'guided meditations'.... try it, you never know it may help. :-4

Do reach out to other people and don't isolate yourself. Go see your doctor again and see if you need to change or adjust your medication.

I'm no doctor. I'm no expert on depression. Just a friend who cares.

jimbo;1117446 wrote: i am on these meds to,they make me so tired ,its hard to stay awake , i have been deppressed for years , i guess i have gotten worse since the deaths of my brother and my cuisin sam,and the rape and mental illness of my daughter helped at all

Fibromyalgia - Symptoms, Definition, Causes, Tender Points



this what i have now and to be honest life is tough always in pain always tired but that is what my life is going to be like and i have to live it the best way i can

trying to keep my spirits up is very hard but most days i can do it post a few jokes annoy immy or spot etc


Jimbo,

A friend of mine just told me about taking magnesium for fibromyalgia. It has been my experience that many of my friends who suffer from depression have fibromyalgia also. Look it up. Maybe it would help.

I have suffered depression. My illness was psychological and it came to a head when I was 20. The underlying cause occurred in my very early childhood (about 2 - 3 years old) when I was subjected to something bad enough for my brain to block the memory. I find that even now I have a poor memory. I also find it hard to focus for any length of time before my mind wanders off.

Over the years, especially since it came to a head, I have gradually overcome the various fears that have depressed me. But it has taken a long time. The last lesson was a particularly bitter pill. The lesson was all but cancelled out by what I lost in the process.

The psychiatrist I was put under when I was 20 put me off psychiatrists completely. Instead of getting better, I ended up trying to commit suicide three times. I ended up in the zombie's ward. I signed myself out in the end. I no longer trust psychiatrists.



The problem with depression is finding out what is at the bottom of it. Once you find that out, then half the battle is won.

While working with the psychiatrist, take matters into your own hands. Learn about depression. Ask the psychiatrist what is underlying yours.

Think about what you love and enjoy most in life and work on or towards these. Keep a diary of your thoughts and how you feel (perhaps using FG's Journal section). On those days that you feel more yourself, think about what you have been doing and whether these contributed towards your feeling better. From what point did you feel better. By focussing on the matter, the subconscious will take over even if you give up with the activity. But the subconscious will suddenly and unexpectedly pop up with a suggestion you can check out and work on.

Most importantly, hang in there.:-6

Betty Boop;1117449 wrote: Have either of you tried meditation, it may help, it may not.....

If you go to youtube, search 'guided meditations'.... try it, you never know it may help. :-4


Yes Betty I have,yes it helps but i stuggle with relaxing and conentrating

most of the time im wound up like a dozen half hitches,

after reading the other post i feel so deaply for them, i no toa certain point

what they are going thu but everytime i read some one elses problems

it makes me feel so selfish, my problems dont even come close

we could do with a Depression section for us all, a chat section would

be better, i feel it helps talkin,

I havent many friends and live alone, my best friend is 60miles

away and suffers her self as well as going thu a bad break up,

nothing to do with me...so its hard for to be there 4 me and vise versa

lonewolf65;1117695 wrote: Yes Betty I have,yes it helps but i stuggle with relaxing and conentrating

most of the time im wound up like a dozen half hitches,

after reading the other post i feel so deaply for them, i no toa certain point

what they are going thu but everytime i read some one elses problems

it makes me feel so selfish, my problems dont even come close

we could do with a Depression section for us all, a chat section would

be better, i feel it helps talkin,

I havent many friends and live alone, my best friend is 60miles

away and suffers her self as well as going thu a bad break up,

nothing to do with me...so its hard for to be there 4 me and vise versa


Interesting how FG has brought together many of us who struggle with internal issues. Life is tough and I think LW you may be onto something good if we all came to a common place and just chatted and allowed each other to speak and tell their stories and not be harassed. I know there are many members here who just want a voice, some just want to tell their story, some just want to help others some need a little of both, it's true we should not isolate ourselves maybe FG is some kind of healing I don't know.

minks;1117720 wrote: Interesting how FG has brought together many of us who struggle with internal issues. Life is tough and I think LW you may be onto something good if we all came to a common place and just chatted and allowed each other to speak and tell their stories and not be harassed. I know there are many members here who just want a voice, some just want to tell their story, some just want to help others some need a little of both, it's true we should not isolate ourselves maybe FG is some kind of healing I don't know.


wow!!!! that minks it what makes u...You ! i woundnt of expected any less form you

you have a kind heart, and if we were all like that maybe there would be less pain in the world..ive stuggled all my life finding friends and allthough none of us realy know eachother, i would love to call you friends

Minks was prob one of the first people i spoke to here, and why i came back after a break i wish i never took. some of you have such kind words and understanding

thanks u all .......

I hope what i wrote made sence, sometimes words just dont come out right for me

It doesn't matter if you can spell.

It doesn't matter if you can write.

It's what's in your heart

That tells you wrong from right.

jimbo;1117750 wrote: my spelling and my strange moron posts are a standing joke here on fg ,but its what you say buddy not how you spell it that matters :-6:-6


Watch it, Jimbo. You're raising your spelling marks with this post.:rolleyes:

OpenMind;1117753 wrote: Watch it, Jimbo. You're raising your spelling marks with this post.:rolleyes:




on a cheerfull note,, Ive gained 2 friends tonight thu this POST....

So thats my pic me upfor tonight, so mybe i was right after all to post my problems

Cheers...:yh_bigsmi

cann't ever have to many friends...

lonewolf65;1117231 wrote: has anyone had it, did you get over it

seems to be a never ending story, feel so low all the time,no sure

how much more i can take,i try to be possative and get up with a

smile,but cant make it last,this has been going on now fora little

over 2 years, but if im honest not sure when i was last happy so

may be longer..


Hi lw, I've noticed the longer I've been here the more people I meet with depression....it sure is good to get it out in the open. I've been dealing with this for so many years I've lost count. I've tried about every medication on the market with no luck. At 44 I feel as I'm falling apart both physically and mentally. In 4 years I've had 3 major surgeries and next week will be having 4 more procedures done and have had so many marriage problems it's also hard to keep track anymore.

This may not make sense to you, or to anyone else, but after so long dealing with depression, I'm afraid of happiness...I don't trust it. I live in a fear that if I let myself start to feel any happiness at all, the rug will be pulled out from under me and I'll end up even worse...even tho I don't know if that's possible. I stay isolated in my house and only go out when absolutely necessary. If I'm out too long, especially by meyself, I start to feel nauseous andf lightheaded. I have no real life friends. Thankfully I've met some wonderful people here that understand and we can share our problems, thoughts, and innermost feelings.

My short term memory is shot. I walk around my house in a fog. I don't feel as if I'm living each day, I just feel like I'm just existing and no one would miss me if I were gone.

Well, we'd miss you, Shel.:-4

OpenMind;1118882 wrote: Well, we'd miss you, Shel.:-4


Thanks OM :-4...it's not like I'm suicidal, but sometimes I just want to hide from the world.

shelbell;1118887 wrote: Thanks OM :-4...it's not like I'm suicidal, but sometimes I just want to hide from the world.


You 'n' me both, Shel.:-6

jimbo;1118894 wrote: like wise sheliton:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl ,if ever you need some one to have a long private chat with....... count me out :yh_rotfl:yh_rotflm just kidding


Sure you are you tosser. :p:p

jimbo;1118894 wrote: brown noser:p:p


Jealous.:p:p:p

OpenMind;1118899 wrote: Jealous.:p:p:p


That's why his real name is Jimbutthead. :yh_rotfl

shelbell;1118901 wrote: That's why his real name is Jimbutthead. :yh_rotfl


:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

jimbo;1118906 wrote: your dispicable:wah::wah:


I know.:rolleyes::wah::wah:

jimbo;1118926 wrote: open mind and sheliton

practice to drive me mad like cluesoue:-3:-3:-3



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That was really weird...are they possessed? Or is that you when you were younger? :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

'Suicide' not realy a talked about subject

to my thinking 'Suicide ' is a end of the road , people with Depression with no more will to live, Im i wrong or Right!!!

Is this a sign of a week or a strong person, in your opinion

because thats all it is YOUR opinion,we will never no whats in that persons head

when they finaly end their life

a interesting twist to the conversation.......i wake up most mornings wishing

i wasnt here, But have never conciderd this option, nore do I think i ever will

Why!! I cant answer that

after 20 years of depression im for ever serching for answers and understanding

of this illness

sorry this is not the most cheerfull of topics, but life has many faces

be good / bad /happy / sad. etc



LW

HIya....I may be wrong, but I get a feeling you're interested in Buddhism. Is there a group near you ....I practised for a few years and found many like minded people. It seems that people that are 'struggling' with everyday issues find Buddhism helpful.

lonewolf65;1119266 wrote: 'Suicide' not realy a talked about subject

to my thinking 'Suicide ' is a end of the road , people with Depression with no more will to live, Im i wrong or Right!!!

Is this a sign of a week or a strong person, in your opinion

because thats all it is YOUR opinion,we will never no whats in that persons head

when they finaly end their life

a interesting twist to the conversation.......i wake up most mornings wishing

i wasnt here, But have never conciderd this option, nore do I think i ever will

Why!! I cant answer that

after 20 years of depression im for ever serching for answers and understanding

of this illness

sorry this is not the most cheerfull of topics, but life has many faces

be good / bad /happy / sad. etc



LW


You are so right LW, suicide is a taboo subject. I have someone very close to me that contemplates it often...he has even thought about how he would do it. He's been in the psychiatric ward in a local hospital twice and really needs to go in again.

To me, suicide is a selfish thing. People that are left behind will carry it with them always and will so many times blame themselves that they should have seen the signs and done more to help.

The word suicide, sends chills down my side, and makes me feel physically ill.

I have overcome horrendous obstacles in my life. While going through each one, the depression was overwhelming. When I came out on the other side, still breathing, I always felt thrilled to have discovered how resilient I could be. I have lived in fear for many years, that I would someday find my younger son, dead, having committed suicide. Unable to cope with any of lifes ups and downs, he has always turned to drugs to medicate himself, and he has threatened it on occassion. Last year in the fall, my hairdresser down in Georgia committed suicide. She was only an acquaintance, and yet I was sickeningly upset over it for a very long time. I wrote about it here.

She was young, beautiful, successful, and kind. I felt terrible for not realizing

that she was suffering. I always hesitated to invite her to join my friends and I because I thought she was too cool for us. I kicked myself afterwards, for not reaching out to her. Ive given a great deal of thought to what goes through the mind of someone who committs suicide in the moments right before they do it. I always imagine them going to the phone, no matter what the time... calling anyone, and saying please help me. In the very last moments of our lives are we still caught up in being ashamed, or being afraid to be weak? I would so much wish not. Why are we here, if not to help each other through the often tough journey of living.

Have suffered with bi-polar disorder for 20 odd years and the depression is bad. It does pass so if you don't feel like fightig it don't try, just let it happen and it will pass away. Go to doc and ask for help but make sure they tell you every side effect of tablets - nothing horrible is likely to happen but its best to know. And don't give yourself a hard time, be self indulgent - plenty of days under the duvet, cry, eat chocolate, sleep and when awake do stuff thats cheerful like watching crappy movies. Walking is a really good therapy too. Hope you feel better soon xx:D

weeder;1119569 wrote: The word suicide, sends chills down my side, and makes me feel physically ill.

I have overcome horrendous obstacles in my life. While going through each one, the depression was overwhelming. When I came out on the other side, still breathing, I always felt thrilled to have discovered how resilient I could be. I have lived in fear for many years, that I would someday find my younger son, dead, having committed suicide. Unable to cope with any of lifes ups and downs, he has always turned to drugs to medicate himself, and he has threatened it on occassion. Last year in the fall, my hairdresser down in Georgia committed suicide. She was only an acquaintance, and yet I was sickeningly upset over it for a very long time. I wrote about it here.

She was young, beautiful, successful, and kind. I felt terrible for not realizing

that she was suffering. I always hesitated to invite her to join my friends and I because I thought she was too cool for us. I kicked myself afterwards, for not reaching out to her. Ive given a great deal of thought to what goes through the mind of someone who committs suicide in the moments right before they do it. I always imagine them going to the phone, no matter what the time... calling anyone, and saying please help me. In the very last moments of our lives are we still caught up in being ashamed, or being afraid to be weak? I would so much wish not. Why are we here, if not to help each other through the often tough journey of living.


How scary it must be for you to worry about your youngest son that way...especially after having known someone that actually followed thru with it.

lonewolf65;1119266 wrote: 'Suicide' not realy a talked about subject

to my thinking 'Suicide ' is a end of the road , people with Depression with no more will to live, Im i wrong or Right!!!

Is this a sign of a week or a strong person, in your opinion

because thats all it is YOUR opinion,we will never no whats in that persons head

when they finaly end their life

a interesting twist to the conversation.......i wake up most mornings wishing

i wasnt here, But have never conciderd this option, nore do I think i ever will

Why!! I cant answer that

after 20 years of depression im for ever serching for answers and understanding

of this illness

sorry this is not the most cheerfull of topics, but life has many faces

be good / bad /happy / sad. etc



LW


Hello there Lonewolf. We haven't talked before but then I'm quite new to this forum. There are a number of things and suggestions that I would like to say to you but really don't know how to start, So I will put them down in point form for you to consider ok?



First off anti-depressants are not the answer. They all have side-effects and in some cases this is disastrous. The desire to commit suicide is one such side-effect, others include; weight gain that adds to depression, cutting oneself, and in some cases exacerbating the original symptoms and many pharmaceuticals act in the reverse. Believe it or not some sleeping medications cause insomnia.



The people in this forum are far healthier for you than a psychiatrist. If your depression is caused from a long standing trauma then 'talk therapy' here on the forum will do you more good than a bottle of pills that obviously aren't doing you any good.



I suggest a holistic practitioner that will provide the multi-vitamins and minerals that are needed because it sounds very much like your mind and body are depleted. An exercise program like easy yoga stretches eases pain and helps loads with fibromyalgia (if you have this).



Take a good hard look at your environment, inside your home and outside of it. Many people become very depressed living in an overcast geographical location. They need the sun, bright and shiny. Other people find that they require a shaded area because the sun affects them negatively. Then look around your apartment or house that you live in. Do you like those colors or were they bought because it was expedient to do so at the time. Many people find that putting some flowers either real or artificial in a spot where they will see them most often help lots. If you are at the computer a lot then put them by the com. But they must be a color that you are drawn to not bought to match the apartment furnishings. A light lively color is the way to go. The greatest majority of people don't realize how much color affects the mind.



Ask your doctor (your general practitioner) for a referral to an allergist. Many people are extremely allergic to mold and fungus. I personally know of 2 cases where the individuals became so depressed and ill from mold when they moved into another home or apt. One was myself and the other was my co-worker. I had moved into my now ex-husbands home where there was lots of mold in the basement and bathroom. My co-worker had moved in with her boyfriend and he had mold in the walls of his trailer home. She started loosing weight and energy and became very depressed where doctors were called in. I made the same suggestion to her about the allergist and she found that mold was the cause. They ended up ripping out the walls of the trailer and killing the mold. She regained her health. As soon as I moved out of my now ex's home I also regained strength and depression left. Carpets and heavy sofas can harbor tons of mold, bacteria and fungus. I advise you to see an allergist.




You state that you have been depressed for a long time, about 20 years I think you said. Come back to the living now LoneWolf. Take control of your own health and in so doing your life. This may sound silly to you but 'view yourself as a plant'. All plants require something to make and keep them healthy. Some like lots of sunshine, some don't, some like lots of water and some don't, some like sandy soil and some don't. Do you see what I am trying to say here? We are all each one of us a 'plant'. Before you think to yourself that I don't know what I am talking about where depression is concerned I want to tell you that I lost my mother, my sister, a daughter and 2 grand-daughters, a niece, I got divorced, moved 3 times, and come through a few accidents where I was told I would not use my arm or leg anymore. And all this happened within 18 years. With exercise I am using my arm and leg very well, LOL, I enjoy dancing to the Red Baron. I studied color therapy and nutrition, specifically herbs, vitamins and minerals and the effects of grains on the mind and body. I came to realize that the past is as gone as my loved ones and I can't bring any of it back. I also came to realize that there is more than one way to be dead, and depression is one of them.

Amber Sun;1119637 wrote: Hello there Lonewolf. We haven't talked before but then I'm quite new to this forum. There are a number of things and suggestions that I would like to say to you but really don't know how to start, So I will put them down in point form for you to consider ok?



First off anti-depressants are not the answer. They all have side-effects and in some cases this is disastrous. The desire to commit suicide is one such side-effect, others include; weight gain that adds to depression, cutting oneself, and in some cases exacerbating the original symptoms and many pharmaceuticals act in the reverse. Believe it or not some sleeping medications cause insomnia.



The people in this forum are far healthier for you than a psychiatrist. If your depression is caused from a long standing trauma then 'talk therapy' here on the forum will do you more good than a bottle of pills that obviously aren't doing you any good.



I suggest a holistic practitioner that will provide the multi-vitamins and minerals that are needed because it sounds very much like your mind and body are depleted. An exercise program like easy yoga stretches eases pain and helps loads with fibromyalgia (if you have this).



Take a good hard look at your environment, inside your home and outside of it. Many people become very depressed living in an overcast geographical location. They need the sun, bright and shiny. Other people find that they require a shaded area because the sun affects them negatively. Then look around your apartment or house that you live in. Do you like those colors or were they bought because it was expedient to do so at the time. Many people find that putting some flowers either real or artificial in a spot where they will see them most often help lots. If you are at the computer a lot then put them by the com. But they must be a color that you are drawn to not bought to match the apartment furnishings. A light lively color is the way to go. The greatest majority of people don't realize how much color affects the mind.



Ask your doctor (your general practitioner) for a referral to an allergist. Many people are extremely allergic to mold and fungus. I personally know of 2 cases where the individuals became so depressed and ill from mold when they moved into another home or apt. One was myself and the other was my co-worker. I had moved into my now ex-husbands home where there was lots of mold in the basement and bathroom. My co-worker had moved in with her boyfriend and he had mold in the walls of his trailer home. She started loosing weight and energy and became very depressed where doctors were called in. I made the same suggestion to her about the allergist and she found that mold was the cause. They ended up ripping out the walls of the trailer and killing the mold. She regained her health. As soon as I moved out of my now ex's home I also regained strength and depression left. Carpets and heavy sofas can harbor tons of mold, bacteria and fungus. I advise you to see an allergist.




You state that you have been depressed for a long time, about 20 years I think you said. Come back to the living now LoneWolf. Take control of your own health and in so doing your life. This may sound silly to you but 'view yourself as a plant'. All plants require something to make and keep them healthy. Some like lots of sunshine, some don't, some like lots of water and some don't, some like sandy soil and some don't. Do you see what I am trying to say here? We are all each one of us a 'plant'. Before you think to yourself that I don't know what I am talking about where depression is concerned I want to tell you that I lost my mother, my sister, a daughter and 2 grand-daughters, a niece, I got divorced, moved 3 times, and come through a few accidents where I was told I would not use my arm or leg anymore. And all this happened within 18 years. With exercise I am using my arm and leg very well, LOL, I enjoy dancing to the Red Baron. I studied color therapy and nutrition, specifically herbs, vitamins and minerals and the effects of grains on the mind and body. I came to realize that the past is as gone as my loved ones and I can't bring any of it back. I also came to realize that there is more than one way to be dead, and depression is one of them.


i think i can sum up what your saying very easly...i know exactly were your coming from and you are so right

The hard bit for me ,i dont no why ' Is putting it into practice

these are all very simple ...practices

1 try to be healthy both in food and life

2 surround your self with cheerfull /happy things and people

3 plenty of fresh air and exersize

4 Sun...yes be great to find some sun i think we all feel better with a little colour in our cheeks

That was quite a interesting read...Thanks.

LW

Your right the answer isnt in a bottle of pills.....i so know that

lonewolf65;1119654 wrote: i think i can sum up what your saying very easly...i know exactly were your coming from and you are so right

The hard bit for me ,i dont no why ' Is putting it into practice

these are all very simple ...practices

1 try to be healthy both in food and life

2 surround your self with cheerfull /happy things and people

3 plenty of fresh air and exersize

4 Sun...yes be great to find some sun i think we all feel better with a little colour in our cheeks

That was quite a interesting read...Thanks.

LW

Your right the answer isnt in a bottle of pills.....i so know that


Is it possible that you answered your own problem Lonewolf '4 Sun...yes be great to find some sun i think we all feel better with a little colour in our cheeks

The way you phrased that sentence leads me to believe that you don't get much direct sunlight where you live. We get vitamin D from the sun, a shortage can cause any number of problems, including depression. However vitamin D needs calcium to be utilized and a person can cause him/herself problems with an overdose. Calcium needs magnesium to be utilized so it's not wise to just go out and buy one bottle of anything if there is a lack of knowledge in that area. I strongly suggest you start with getting a bottle of mega amount of vitamin/mineral complex. Mega does not mean that if it is a one a day tablet that you can take 3 or 4. It is just a 'mega amount in the right proportions'. As soon as you start feeling better (about 2 weeks) then you will be able to handle the rest of your health regime. I suggest a health food store not a pharmacy.

Talk therapy is wonderful, a person always ends up answering their own problems.

Amber Sun;1119732 wrote: Is it possible that you answered your own problem Lonewolf '4 Sun...yes be great to find some sun i think we all feel better with a little colour in our cheeks

The way you phrased that sentence leads me to believe that you don't get much direct sunlight where you live. We get vitamin D from the sun, a shortage can cause any number of problems, including depression. However vitamin D needs calcium to be utilized and a person can cause him/herself problems with an overdose. Calcium needs magnesium to be utilized so it's not wise to just go out and buy one bottle of anything if there is a lack of knowledge in that area. I strongly suggest you start with getting a bottle of mega amount of vitamin/mineral complex. Mega does not mean that if it is a one a day tablet that you can take 3 or 4. It is just a 'mega amount in the right proportions'. As soon as you start feeling better (about 2 weeks) then you will be able to handle the rest of your health regime. I suggest a health food store not a pharmacy.

Talk therapy is wonderful, a person always ends up answering their own problems.


mmmmm. life isnt always that simple i wish i was, if it was i guess there would be less people with problems,

every day is one foot forward two back,

but the important think i find is only to count the forward steps

but itake in what your saying....Thanks