If You Had To Choose

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:50 pm

Which of the following people from the past would you be if you had to pick just one.

Genghis Khan

Moses

Socrates

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:53 pm

None of them...I don't want to be a man back then now or if I come back here..

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:59 pm

Pontius Pilate, I think. he had a pretty good time from what people know of him.

eta: soz, I just re-read the question properly. Only one of those three? Socrates then. I'm quite used to being right and not being listened to.

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:06 pm

spot;1043121 wrote: Pontius Pilate, I think. he had a pretty good time from what people know of him.

eta: soz, I just re-read the question properly. Only one of those three? Socrates then. I'm quite used to being right and not being listened to.

:wah::wah: I'm listening and agreeing with you.

Now I started something new

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:10 pm

Chezzie;1043119 wrote: None of them...I don't want to be a man back then now or if I come back here..

C'mon, be a sport------what if you had to choose? Who would it be?

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:05 pm

Lon;1043116 wrote: Which of the following people from the past would you be if you had to pick just one.

Genghis Khan

Moses

Socrates

No question about it. Genghis Khan. The greatest leader and conquror ever, IMHO.

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:09 pm

hoppy;1043155 wrote: No question about it. Genghis Khan. The greatest leader and conquror ever, IMHO.

Does that choice not commit you to ordering the slaughter of civilian populations?

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:15 pm

Lon;1043126 wrote: C'mon, be a sport------what if you had to choose? Who would it be?

Ok I will but I need to dwell upon my answer:)

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:19 pm

spot;1043162 wrote: Does that choice not commit you to ordering the slaughter of civilian populations?

Ya think Genghis Khan worried about that? Were I him, I wouldn't either, and I would have your head for asking. Lol.

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:23 pm

Iv'e read up on those three fellas and Socrates seems the best of the bunch and more suited to me:)

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:37 pm

spot;1043162 wrote: Does that choice not commit you to ordering the slaughter of civilian populations?

Don't give him too bad a rap. I've read Genghis Khan often spared civilians if they didn't fight or resist.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:45 pm

I'd have to go with 'Khan' but i'm not sure why at the moment.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:49 pm

oscar;1043192 wrote: I'd have to go with 'Khan' but i'm not sure why at the moment.

How about, he led the greatest army of mounted warriors ever. He was pounding on europe's door. It would have been interesting to see how europe dealt with him and his armies, had he lived longer.

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:25 pm

Chezzie;1043177 wrote: Iv'e read up on those three fellas and Socrates seems the best of the bunch and more suited to me:)

He got a damn sight more nookie than the other two as well. Especially Moses.

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:27 pm

spot;1043225 wrote: He got a damn sight more nookie than the other two as well. Especially Moses.

That'll do me:D

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:28 pm

Chezzie;1043227 wrote: That'll do me:D

You're so easy to read.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:32 pm

Moses............I would change the 10 Commandments;)

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:34 pm

I was going to say just that Carolly.

Actually I would write a few of my own and the parting of the sea would be fun as well.

[QUOTE]Moses............I would change the 10 Commandments[/QUOTE]

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:35 pm

Carolly;1043232 wrote: Moses............I would change the 10 Commandments;)

Thou shalt eat oysters?

Thou shalt take thine neighbour's oxen as thine own?

Laying thy neighbours wives and daughters is allowable on Bank Holidays after a couple of pints?

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:36 pm

CARLA;1043234 wrote: I was going to say just that Carolly.

Actually I would write a few of my own and the parting of the sea would be fun as well.
Great minds fink alike Carla;):D

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:41 pm

Not bad Spot..!!

[QUOTE]Thou shalt eat oysters?(or maybe Cake, Pie, or Ice Cream.)

Thou shalt take thine neighbour's oxen as thine own?(today that would mean the Mercedes parked in the garage)

Laying thy neighbours wives and daughters is allowable on Bank Holidays after a couple of pints?(Have to change this a bit not so much the daughters could get you killed)[/QUOTE]

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:45 pm

Carolly;1043232 wrote: Moses............I would change the 10 Commandments;)

Whew!!! I thought for a minute there was some anti semites.

Ah, which commandments would you change?

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:45 pm

spot;1043238 wrote: Thou shalt eat oysters?

Thou shalt take thine neighbour's oxen as thine own?

Laying thy neighbours wives and daughters is allowable on Bank Holidays after a couple of pints?Spot wash your mouth:-2Since you have become the local Bookie you are a changed man and just hope yer not sitting there with yer bookies hat on:-3

No if I had to rewrite them I would add a few like......Spot will be nice to all even me :Dand people who had bikes would never be born colour blind so they can see the traffic lights turn red as the poor buggers cant see and keep going through them and I would hate them to have an accident:rolleyes::D

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:48 pm

Lon;1043252 wrote: Whew!!! I thought for a minute there was some anti semites.

Ah, which commandments would you change?Dont know as cant remember what they all are but theres gotta be some I would change :-3

:D

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:48 pm

Definately Moses.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:50 pm

Pheasy;1043257 wrote: Definately Moses. :DYe cant be.......I am:sneaky::-5

kayleneaussie · Post by **kayleneaussie** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:58 pm

Moses.....cause he did a lot for people and saved thousands and thousands of lives.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:02 pm

kayleneaussie;1043278 wrote: Moses.....cause he did a lot for people and saved thousands and thousands of lives.

Trust you to jump on the band wagon:sneaky::-5....changed me mind now....I wanna be someone else

:p

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:08 pm

kayleneaussie;1043278 wrote: Moses.....cause he did a lot for people and saved thousands and thousands of lives.

What an astonishing suggestion. I mean, wow. How can a story get turned on its head like that?

My oh my.

Moses led the Hebrews into the desert after a whole stack of "let my people go". That's the Moses we're discussing?

The ones that spent forty years in the wilderness? Those Hebrews?

Plagues, earthquakes, slaughter and mayhem at the hands of a vengeful God who wasn't going to put up with any murmurings from them, much less Golden Calf idols?

Do you have the slightest idea how many of the Hebrews who left Egypt with Moses survived to enter the Promised Land flowing with milk and honey?

Two of them, Caleb and Joshua. Apart from those two, every single last Hebrew who left Egypt with Moses died in the desert on the way.Not one of them was among those counted by Moses and Aaron the priest when they counted the Israelites in the Desert of Sinai. For the Lord had told those Israelites they would surely die in the desert, and not one of them was left except Caleb son of Jephunneh and Joshua son of Nun.

Numbers 26:64,65Moses "saved thousands and thousands of lives"????

People just see whatever they want to even when it's in black and while under their noses.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:29 pm

Socrates, and be able to sit and discuss philosophy, life, and everything with other thinkers.

(or maybe just his wife, as Scrat's points out....................:wah:)

Moses-I don't think I want to live to be 120 years old. But to see the glory of God face to face, as he did in the burning bush, that would be something to think about. But he put up with alot of whiney people for 40 years in the wilderness, having 12 year olds in the classroom all day, I hear enough of that stuff.:wah:

Genghis Khan, no. He killed too many people, and he seems an unusual choice among the other two.

No females mentioned I notice..................:rolleyes:

kayleneaussie · Post by **kayleneaussie** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:34 pm

spot;1043293 wrote: What an astonishing suggestion. I mean, wow. How can a story get turned on its head like that?

My oh my.

Moses led the Hebrews into the desert after a whole stack of "let my people go". That's the Moses we're discussing?

The ones that spent forty years in the wilderness? Those Hebrews?

Plagues, earthquakes, slaughter and mayhem at the hands of a vengeful God who wasn't going to put up with any murmurings from them, much less Golden Calf idols?

Do you have the slightest idea how many of the Hebrews who left Egypt with Moses survived to enter the Promised Land flowing with milk and honey?

Two of them, Caleb and Joshua. Apart from those two, every single last Hebrew who left Egypt with Moses died in the desert on the way.Not one of them was among those counted by Moses and Aaron the priest when they counted the Israelites in the Desert of Sinai. For the Lord had told those Israelites they would surely die in the desert, and not one of them was left except Caleb son of Jephunneh and Joshua son of Nun.

Numbers 26:64,65Moses "saved thousands and thousands of lives"????

People just see whatever they want to even when it's in black and while under their noses.

Thats your opinion Spot..remember whenyou mentioned the statues, they were saved but disappointed Jesus by their debauchery and the ones that died on the trip were the ones who committed the atrocities.

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:38 pm

kayleneaussie;1043320 wrote: Thats your opinion Spot..remember whenyou mentioned the statues, they were saved but disappointed Jesus by their debauchery and the ones that died on the trip were the ones who committed the atrocities.

What bit of what I wrote was opinion instead of a quote from the bible?

No, I don't remember the statues who were saved or Jesus being disappointed by debauchery, where are those from?

Which atrocities are you talking about?

Whose are the thousands and thousands of lives that Moses saved?

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:50 pm

Hoss;1043330 wrote: He saved what was left of the egyptians... after pharoah and his army was destroyed.

That's a good try! I expect, if there were any, that Moses ran as fast into the desert as his feet could take him because those would have been an extremely irate bunch of soldiers!

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:26 pm

Moses put up with a lot of grief. God would only help the Israelites defeat their enemies while Moses kept his hands above his head, for example, just to show who was really in charge.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:48 pm

Don't forget-----------Jesus may Save, but Moses INVESTS.

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:57 pm

Hoss;1043371 wrote: LOL, you think that was the reason? I think the people couldn’t see God working in their lives, they had to keep seeing Moses as Gods representative, so long as he lead they believed, that’s the impression I get as to why they failed to enter into Gods rest of the promised land, lack of faith.

It's in the book! "Aaron and Hur stayed up his hands, the one on the one side, and the other on the other side; and his hands were steady until the going down of the sun. And Joshua discomfited Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword".

I've even got a photograph taken by John Everett Millais, the famous Old Testament photographer!!

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:11 pm

Hoss;1043398 wrote: LOL, thats not Moses! Where is his face of light and his vail? It looks like they are trying to arrest that poor man!:wah:

You can tell it's Moses, he's even got those vestigial horns that Saint Jerome said was his most prominent visual aspect.

I hope you're impressed by Aaron's calf muscles.

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:35 pm

Hoss;1043408 wrote: How do you know that ones Aaron?

He's wearing his broidered coat from Exodus 28 where they took gold, and blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine linen and he's wearing his linen breeches to cover his nakedness, which reach from the loins even unto the thighs, and obviously he's not got his mitre or his girdle or his Ephod all of blue with the binding of woven work round about the hole of it, as it were the hole of an habergeon, because he's not ministering before the Ark. He's only slightly on duty, it being a battle, but he's the only Israelite with that sort of clothing, he does stand out in a crowd.