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Felony

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:30 pm
by lady cop
do you mind if i dissect your question? ...i am prejudiced in this for obvious reasons. right to bear arms...a convicted felon? i am authorized to shoot a fleeing convicted felon. why do they need a gun??. to rob the convenience store? i had to become a cop to get a gun permit and carry concealed..should the bank-robber have one? i don't think so. ..secondly...if someone has it ( a right to vote) spits in the face of government or society by committing a felony and being convicted of same...they have forfeited the right to participate in my government. just my opinion.

Felony

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:22 am
by lady cop
by definition felonies are not "minor". ok it's a bow and arrow, not a gun.(tough to conceal)..but i have to support the law in your state. ...after reading your pm i hope your friend gets the pardon applied for. :)

Felony

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:36 am
by Bill Sikes
tmbsgrl wrote: Do you feel that a person who is charged with a non-violent felony and served their time in prison should be given back the right to bare arms and vote 10 years after the fact while getting into no other legal troubles?


A non-violent felony? Got an example?

I was unaware that criminals in the 'States could not vote.

I can't see why anyone can't wear a T-shirt or similar.

Felony

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:52 am
by Bill Sikes
tmbsgrl wrote: [fontledooldly]He was arrested for drugs.. 10 years ago. been clean since the day he came out.


In the UK this person would not be able to get a firearms certificate, but would probably be able to get a shot gun certificate. Bows and so forth do not require licences - are they really subject to licencing in the 'states?

What about voting - aren't criminals allowed to vote?

This won't help you evaluate the example that you put forward, it's just for discussion, really!

Felony

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:55 am
by lady cop
in the states convicted felons are disenfranchised, may not vote. there may be some exceptions in certain states. (what was that about t-shirt in reference to? just curious)

Felony

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:03 am
by lady cop
i hope he doesn't go ahead and buy it and risk his freedom again...it's not worth it!

Felony

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:09 am
by Bill Sikes
lady cop wrote: (what was that about t-shirt in reference to? just curious)


Erm, just to do with the "right to bare arms". Sorry.

Felony

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:10 am
by lady cop
Bill Sikes wrote: Erm, just to do with the "right to bare arms". Sorry.
:yh_rotfl

Felony

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:11 am
by Bill Sikes
lady cop wrote: i hope he doesn't go ahead and buy it and risk his freedom again...it's not worth it!


What about simply using guns, bows, etc? Can one of your convicted criminals borrow, use on land belonging to someone, use "supervised", etc?

Felony

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:33 am
by lady cop
possession is 9 points of the law...the convicted felon cannot have control of a weapon. it's the same as someone in the drivers seat of a car drunk or without a license..they are deemed to be in control of vehicle and may be charged accordingly.

Felony

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:54 am
by Bill Sikes
lady cop wrote: the pardon applied for.


Pardon? Can you tell me, in a non-specific way, of course, how that works?

Felony

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:58 am
by lady cop
you can apply to the governor of the respective state where you were convicted , for a pardon. essentially expunging the record. it's not granted often. but in the case of a young person for example, who has remained clean for ten years after the conviction it is possible. just not likely especially with a law and order governor.

Felony

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:05 am
by lady cop
i hope so too Tmbsgrl :)

Felony

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:56 pm
by lady cop
tmbsgrl wrote: Me too!!!




be sure to come back and let us know how the pardon board rules! (((hug))) :)

Felony

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:01 am
by Peg
I must say, it really bothers me that you feel you have a better chance because your mom knows people. What about others who are just as deserving but don't know anyone on the board? I wish you luck with this, and hope he gets the pardon, it just really bugs me that you have to know people to get results.