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On Che Guevara....

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:18 pm
by RedGlitter
October 9, 2007

A Revolutionary Icon, and Now, a Bikini

By MARC LACEY

SANTA CLARA, Cuba, Oct. 8 — Aleida Guevara March, the 46-year-old daughter of Che Guevara, says she can bear the Che T-shirts, the Che keychains, the Che postcards and Che paintings sold all over Cuba, not to mention the world.

At least some of the purchasers truly cherish Che, she says. On Monday she was surrounded by thousands of Che fans wearing his image here in Santa Clara, where her father’s remains are kept, and where she sat in the front row of a ceremony to observe the 40th anniversary of his death.

Raúl Castro, the acting president, attended. A message was read from his older brother Fidel, who ceded power in August 2006 after emergency surgery, likening his former comrade-in-arms to “a flower that was plucked from his stem prematurely.

But amid all the ceremony, what really gets to Ms. Guevara is the use of the man she calls Papi in ways that she says are completely removed from his revolutionary ideals, like when a designer recently put Che on a bikini.

In fact, 40 years after his death, Che — born Ernesto Guevara de la Serna — is as much a marketing tool as an international revolutionary icon. Which raises the question of what exactly does the sheer proliferation of his image — the distant gaze, the scraggly beard and the beret adorned with a star — mean in a decidedly capitalist world?

Even in Cuba, one of the world’s last Communist bastions, Che is used both to make a buck and to make a point. “He sells, acknowledged a Cuban shop clerk, who had Che after Che staring down from a wall full of T-shirts.

But at least here he is also used to inspire the next generation of Cubans. Schoolchildren invoke his name every morning, declaring with a salute, “We want to be like Che. His quotations are recited almost as often as those of Fidel Castro.

“There’s no doubt that when Fidel dies someday, his image will be just like Che’s, said Enrique Oltuski, the vice minister of fishing and a contemporary of both men. But Che’s mythic status as a homegrown revolutionary does not extend everywhere, even if his image does. When Target stores in the United States put his image on a CD carrying case last year, critics who consider him a murderer and symbol of totalitarianism pressed the retailer to pull the item.

“What next? Hitler backpacks? Pol Pot cookware? Pinochet pantyhose? Investor’s Business Daily said in an editorial, calling the use of the image an example of “tyrant-chic.

That famous image of Che, by a Cuban photographer, Alberto Korda Díaz, was taken at a March 5, 1960, funeral rally for dozens of Cubans killed in a boat explosion for which Cuba blamed the United States. The picture became famous after appearing in Paris Match magazine in 1967, just weeks before Che was killed by soldiers in Bolivia, apparently aided by the C.I.A.

Mr. Korda, who died in 2001 at age 72, never received royalties but did sue a British advertising agency over the use of the photo for a campaign promoting vodka. He won $50,000, which he donated toward buying medicine for children.

Ms. Guevara and her family, too, have tried to stop the marketing of Che’s image in ways that they find abhorrent. She says they have reached out to lawyers in New York, whom she would not identify, to pursue companies the family thinks are misusing the image, not to sue them for damages, but to ask them to stop.

“We’re not after money, she said. “We just don’t want him misused. He can be a universal person, but respect the image.

Some of Che’s star power has rubbed off on his four surviving children, one of whom is named Ernesto Guevara and drove to the memorial on a motorcycle, just like Dad. Cubans hug the Guevaras in the street, and tourists are giddy when they learn who they are.

“I have goose bumps, said Alfredo Moreno, 32, a Mexican who posed for a picture with Ms. Guevara, clearly overcome with emotion. “I can’t describe to you what this moment means to me.

As Mr. Moreno went on and on, Ms. Guevara told him to stop his fawning words.

“I’m a child of Che, she explained, “but I’m not Che.

Ms. Guevara is in fact a pediatrician and mother of two who favors pantsuits over military fatigues. She resembles a Cuban soccer mom more than a revolutionary.

Her sister is a veterinarian. One brother manages a center devoted to Che in Havana. Then there is Ernesto, a Harley-Davidson aficionado. All are called on by the Cuban government from time to time to help continue their father’s legacy.

It is not hard to detect a bit of exhaustion in all this, particularly now, when Cuba and much of Latin America are holding major events to honor both his death and, next June, what would have been his 80th birthday.

“I can’t be everywhere, Ms. Guevara said. “I can’t multiply myself.

Ms. Guevara travels the world speaking at conferences dealing with Che. At one in Italy, she learned after signing T-shirts for some young people that they were fascists. “They knew nothing about him, she said with a sigh.

Once, she said, she bumped into John F. Kennedy Jr. in Europe and discussed with him the challenges of being the offspring of a famous man.

She called him “a beautiful person, and said she was able to separate him from his father, who ordered the Bay of Pigs invasion to try to topple the government that Che had helped put in place in Cuba.

But bring up United States foreign policy, and the resemblance to her father really emerges. The fiery speech flows when she discusses the war in Iraq. She calls the economic embargo of Cuba that has stretched on for 50 years “so brutal, so stupid, so irrational.

And don’t even get her started about the Bush administration.





On Che Guevara....

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:06 pm
by RedGlitter
Funny, Magenta, how can you be ignoring me and still be in my threads? :wah: :rolleyes:

I find it scary how people wear Che's face on everything and yet have no idea what he stood for. Which people do with other icons too but when it's something like this, it disturbs me.

On Che Guevara....

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:14 am
by KB.
Not to mention you would be hard pressed to find a woman in Cuba starving herself to death to fit some Western symbol of beauty. I went there once, in a round about way I refuse to go into detail about. The fishing is superb, as is the food, and the women are beautiful.

Speaking of Castro of course.

On Che Guevara....

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:27 am
by KB.
Nothing to tell other than I went in a round about way. It was a long time ago. I had extra money and a connection in Brazil. Can't fly directly there from the US.

On Che Guevara....

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:07 pm
by KB.
It was almost ten years ago and I went for a week after reading an article about the amazing sea kayaking (I went more to see the water and just to say I've been than any kayaking). The fishing was also mentioned. There were poor people of course, less than here as it usually is in a communist nation. Poor is a relative situation after all. I saw no one wearing gunny sacks and burlap. That isn't to say it doesn't happen. It looked like some black and white show from the 50's colorized to be honest. The cars were mainly old American and Germen steel. The women looked happy and fit. You didn't see a lot of obesity but people were healthy for the most part; meaning they had meat on their bones. The food was amazing.

The connection was an old girl friend. Her Father is a doctor and her Mother a politician. It wasn't that expensive of a trip. I did exactly what the guy in the article I read did. I went to El Salvador, which was far more dangerous than Cuba, and found the guy who I was referred to at the airport; got on the plane without having my passport stamped (20 bucks goes a long way in El Salvador) flew to Cuba, and when I returned I paid another guy the same amount to once again overlook my passport.

At that time getting your passport stamped in Cuba would get you an immediate detention once back in the states. I was there for four days.

I have heard but not researched the fact that it is actually easier to get there now than it was then.

KB is simply initials, from high school, guys do that thing. Notice I and most others call JacksDad simply JD.

Various details were left out or skewed.

As far as what the Cubans did and said. It wasn't a big deal. There were plenty of Americans and/or Western European types there. I fit in better than most of them did. I have a way of doing that It's hard to pin down my looks as far as nationality goes. Things were pretty easy going; the policia were always around to be seen though.

I'll even put a picture of the "connection": in here.


On Che Guevara....

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:37 pm
by KB.
magenta flame;707978 wrote: :Dand I have a way of getting information out of people :D

See? that explanation was a lot more exciting and fun

thank-you


It could also be a total fabrication. Believe me when I say that no one gets anything from me that I don't want them to get. Scrat got the information from me as far as that goes.

;)

On Che Guevara....

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:17 pm
by Kathy Ellen
It's always been a dream of mine to visit Cuba. I love Cuban people and their culture. My niece Karen and I will travel to Cuba when "we're allowed." Many Yanks have visited Cuba through foreign countries, but if the US government finds out that you've done that.......you're in big, big trouble.:-5

"Evita" one of my favorite plays....loved Patti and Mandy as Evita and Che...

http://www.avidtouring.com/attraction.php?id=0004

"Buena Visa Social Club" One of Cuba's most cherished musicians.... a beautiful group of men. You can rent this video.....beautiful Cuban music.

http://www.plume-noire.com/music/favorite/buena.html

On Che Guevara....

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:27 pm
by KB.
magenta flame;707982 wrote: Kb why don't you just say you hate my guts and be done with it? :thinking:


I don't hate anyone; wasted energy. I certainly don't hate you.