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I was late for an appointment today, so I borke the law and drove at 65mph in the center lane in a posted 55 mph zone!!! It was on a major highway, so I felt it really wasn't that dangerous. Not to mention, even though I was already breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit by 10, there were many cars that wizzed bye me both in the RH lane, as well as in the LH lane!!! So . . . . . . . . . .



So do you break the law & speed?



If you do, is it on a regular basis?



And how much faster do you go then the posted limit?

cars;654688 wrote: I was late for an appointment today, so I borke the law and drove at 65mph in the center lane in a posted 55 mph zone!!! It was on a major highway, so I felt it really wasn't that dangerous. Not to mention, even though I was already breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit by 10, there were many cars that wizzed bye me both in the RH lane, as well as in the LH lane!!! So . . . . . . . . . .

So do you break the law & speed?

If you do, is it on a regular basis?

And how much faster do you go then the posted limit?


Dont get me started lawbreaker ! :-5

magenta flame;654739 wrote: "Book him, Danno":D




I met Danno in a bar. WHEEEE !

cars;654688 wrote:

So do you break the law & speed?


Yes.

cars;654688 wrote: If you do, is it on a regular basis?


Every Day.



cars;654688 wrote:

And how much faster do you go then the posted limit?


It varies from 5 to 15 mph over.

cars;654688 wrote: I was late for an appointment today, so I borke the law and drove at 65mph in the center lane in a posted 55 mph zone!!! It was on a major highway, so I felt it really wasn't that dangerous. Not to mention, even though I was already breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit by 10, there were many cars that wizzed bye me both in the RH lane, as well as in the LH lane!!! So . . . . . . . . . .



So do you break the law & speed?



If you do, is it on a regular basis?



And how much faster do you go then the posted limit?


The Max Speed Limit in California is 65 mph, but on the freeways where I live, if you are not doing at least 75 mph you are blocking traffic flow.

There are some parts of Europe where the maximum speed on some public roads is unrestricted. There are no such public roads in the UK, not so much as a mile of it from one end of the country to the other.

The limits here are not advisory, they're compulsory.

All coaches and trucks in the UK are fitted with a speed governor which prevents the vehicle from exceeding a speed dictated by the vehicle's licence.

I'd like to see that extended to all motorized transport and have the governor drop down to the current limit for the stretch of road being travelled. At the moment it's practically impossible to stand by any section of road anywhere in the country and not observe the limit being broken, even where notices and external detection devices are installed.

spot;654944 wrote: There are some parts of Europe where the maximum speed on some public roads is unrestricted. There are no such public roads in the UK, not so much as a mile of it from one end of the country to the other.



The limits here are not advisory, they're compulsory.



All coaches and trucks in the UK are fitted with a speed governor which prevents the vehicle from exceeding a speed dictated by the vehicle's licence.



I'd like to see that extended to all motorized transport and have the governor drop down to the current limit for the stretch of road being travelled. At the moment it's practically impossible to stand by any section of road anywhere in the country and not observe the limit being broken, even where notices and external detection devices are installed.


In an attempt to curtail speeding in Virginia, "by Virginian's", the state is imposing upto $3,000 speeding fines!!! That's kind of an eye opener!

That's scarcely a wrist-slap. The penalty here *begins* at the level of a fine. It progresses through the confiscation and crushing of the offender's vehicle to a year's suspension of the driver's licence and imprisonment. I could find examples of all those in the newspapers.

Exceptions are made for off-duty police officers, of course. It is impossible to convict an off-duty police officer for speeding as these offences are tried in a Magistrate's Court.

Magistrates sit without the benefit of a jury.

Spot, you mean the cars there are FIXED so they can not exceede a specified speed? That is unsafe, sometimes for safety you must accelerate to pass a dangerous situation ahead, braking could not be a wise response. In a split-second decision, it could mean life or death for people in a vehicle.

chonsigirl;655015 wrote: Spot, you mean the cars there are FIXED so they can not exceede a specified speed? That is unsafe, sometimes for safety you must accelerate to pass a dangerous situation ahead, braking could not be a wise response. In a split-second decision, it could mean life or death for people in a vehicle.


I'd refer you to "All coaches and trucks in the UK are fitted with a speed governor which prevents the vehicle from exceeding a speed dictated by the vehicle's licence". That's a lot of the vehicles already on the road that it's already been done to, and it was done purely for safety reasons.

Yes governors kill some people. They save a lot more than they kill, just as seat belts do. It's swings and roundabouts. When a thing has a plus factor and a minus factor, you take the one from the other and see which course has a net benefit.

chonsigirl;655015 wrote: Spot, you mean the cars there are FIXED so they can not exceede a specified speed? That is unsafe, sometimes for safety you must accelerate to pass a dangerous situation ahead, braking could not be a wise response. In a split-second decision, it could mean life or death for people in a vehicle.






Oh...look at the bunny girl rationalizing her lawbreaking ways !



:p

It's not always so smart to obay the law! Yesterday I was on the same highway, & as a test drove precisily at the posted "55"mph limit. I almost got killed!!!! As the other cars wizzed bye me so fast, that they made my car swerve from their excessive draft! Driving at "65" mph last time, they still passed me, but the draft was not as strong!!

So . . . . .

cars;655666 wrote: It's not always so smart to obay the law! Yesterday I was on the same highway, & as a test drove precisily at the posted "55"mph limit. I almost got killed!!!! As the other cars wizzed but me so fast, that they made my car swerve from their excessive draft! Driving at "65" mph last time, they still passed me, but the draft was not as strong!!

So . . . . .




People are crazy in their cars cars. :-3

I had a guy riding my tail on the freeway the other day, he was right on me and weaving and furious because I was doing the speed limit. God he was mad but Id seen cops out all day. We get over a hill and sure enough there was a trooper pointing his radar. He became polite and courteous and backed off pretty quickly. Thats part of the problem theres not enough $ for enforcement. If they dont actually see the cop they dont respect the rules.

Nomad;655676 wrote: People are crazy in their cars cars. :-3

I had a guy riding my tail on the freeway the other day, he was right on me and weaving and furious because I was doing the speed limit. God he was mad but Id seen cops out all day. We get over a hill and sure enough there was a trooper pointing his radar. He became polite and courteous and backed off pretty quickly. Thats part of the problem theres not enough $ for enforcement. If they dont actually see the cop they dont respect the rules.
Right Nomie, for every crazy dufus speeding too way fast, there's always another dufus who has to even speed faster!!! :wah:

spot;654944 wrote: There are some parts of Europe where the maximum speed on some public roads is unrestricted. There are no such public roads in the UK, not so much as a mile of it from one end of the country to the other.

The limits here are not advisory, they're compulsory.

All coaches and trucks in the UK are fitted with a speed governor which prevents the vehicle from exceeding a speed dictated by the vehicle's licence.

I'd like to see that extended to all motorized transport and have the governor drop down to the current limit for the stretch of road being travelled. At the moment it's practically impossible to stand by any section of road anywhere in the country and not observe the limit being broken, even where notices and external detection devices are installed.


trucks made before 1987 are dont have speed governors

spot;655006 wrote: That's scarcely a wrist-slap. The penalty here *begins* at the level of a fine. It progresses through the confiscation and crushing of the offender's vehicle to a year's suspension of the driver's licence and imprisonment. I could find examples of all those in the newspapers.

Exceptions are made for off-duty police officers, of course. It is impossible to convict an off-duty police officer for speeding as these offences are tried in a Magistrate's Court.

Magistrates sit without the benefit of a jury.


it does happen but there is no set exceptions fo off duty police officersSenior police officer reported for speeding

Dan McDougall



ONE of Scotland’s leading woman police officers faced a speeding charge and the prospect of disciplinary action last night after she was accused of driving at 20mph over the legal limit.

It was confirmed that Strathclyde Chief Superintendent, Maggie Barr, 49, was reported to the Procurator Fiscal for allegedly driving at 70mph on a 50mph stretch of motorway in Glasgow. The high-flying policewoman was stopped in the middle of a festive police clampdown on speeding and drink driving over the holiday period.

It is understood the officer was pulled over for speeding on the M80 Stepps bypass on Hogmanay, as she made her way home from work.

Last night, a spokesman for Strathclyde Police confirmed that the officer, who is divisional commander at Maryhill, was stopped during a Strathclyde Police crackdown on speeding motorists.

He said: "A 49-year-old has been reported to the Fiscal in connection with an alleged road traffic offence.

"The woman is a serving officer with Strathclyde Police."

In normal circumstances, drivers are simply offered a fixed penalty for speeding, but Chief Superintendent Barr was reported to the Fiscal because she is a police officer.

Her case may also be referred to her seniors in the Strathclyde Force.

The incident came as Strathclyde Police released figures showing that in the three weeks leading up to Hogmanay, an estimated 2,015 motorists were caught speeding, the majority in built-up areas.

Chief Constable Ricky Gray, a Strathclyde Police assistant, launched the annual festive road safety campaign last month, stating the clampdown on speeding and drink driving was a major priority over the holiday period.

At the time of the launch, the senior officer said he feared the police could be looking at a "lost generation of drivers who have failed to absorb the road safety message".

He added: "Drivers who take the risk are playing with the wheel of misfortune, a deadly game of life, death and imprisonment.

"People are more likely to be concerned about getting caught than if they cause an accident. I find that disturbing."

Last night, a leading road safety campaigner said police officers should set an example particularly around Christmas and Hogmanay, when car crime was a particular concern.

Isobel Brydie, of the Scottish Campaign Against Irresponsible Drivers, said:

"If this officer has been caught doing in excess of the limit by some considerable speed then she has hardly set a good example to the public and this is a particularly embarrassing incident for the police.

"The police more than anyone should be aware if a particular stretch of motorway or road has a reduced limit then they should stick to it without question. "

Last month, a detective from the elite Scottish Drug Enforcement Agency was banned from driving after clocking up 111mph on one of Scotland’s most dangerous roads.

Detective Constable Raymond Bradley, 42, a Strathclyde officer seconded to the agency, was caught doing what was labelled "race-track" speeds on a dual carriageway section of the A9 near Inverness, a road with a high death rate.

He was banned from driving for six months.

This article: http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=13332002

el guapo;655820 wrote: trucks made before 1987 are dont have speed governors


The next time I pass the Vintage Truck parade at the local Steam Rally I'll remember that. I'm not sure it has much practical effect on the motorway.

if ya state a fact make sure its a fact

Im a bit of a lead foot lol so it happens

el guapo;655903 wrote: if ya state a fact make sure its a fact


I had that rather famous instance of PC Mark Milton who simply couldn't be convicted of dangerous driving by any court in the land, however hard prosecutors tried to make it happen. He's the "unmarked Vauxhall Vectra at 159mph" chappie. I thought everyone had heard of him.

I was wondering why you'd remembered Maggie Barr from all those years ago and then I looked her up. I hadn't seen last year's story about the withdrawn Scottish Police College manual before.

spot;655006 wrote: That's scarcely a wrist-slap. The penalty here *begins* at the level of a fine. It progresses through the confiscation and crushing of the offender's vehicle to a year's suspension of the driver's licence and imprisonment. I could find examples of all those in the newspapers.

Exceptions are made for off-duty police officers, of course. It is impossible to convict an off-duty police officer for speeding as these offences are tried in a Magistrate's Court.

Magistrates sit without the benefit of a jury.


I'll point that out to my friend who happens to be a police officer and has been convicted of a speeding offence. Maybe he can ask for the removal of the points from his license and a refund of his fine.

jpcme;656365 wrote: I'll point that out to my friend who happens to be a police officer and has been convicted of a speeding offence. Maybe he can ask for the removal of the points from his license and a refund of his fine.


I scanned the newspapers and yes, there's more reported cases out there than I'd expected. The off-duty unmarked Vauxhall Vectra at 159mph escapade really did screw up the public perception, it'll stick in minds for a generation. It was an idiotic verdict, clearing the PC of all charges like that.

spot;656370 wrote: I scanned the newspapers and yes, there's more reported cases out there than I'd expected. The off-duty unmarked Vauxhall Vectra at 159mph escapade really did screw up the public perception, it'll stick in minds for a generation. It was an idiotic verdict, clearing the PC of all charges like that.


But he was a trained driver, just testing his new car out to find it's limits so obviously he had to go that quickly - how else could he possibly keep his hand in?