International Rugby...

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Fri May 04, 2007 9:52 pm

Discuss International Rugby here...

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Fri May 04, 2007 10:00 pm

The USA gets set to play England in the Churchill Cup on May 18th...Which is about two weeks away...

This may be a testament to what's to come in the Rugby World Cup coming this fall, as the USA is in Group A with England...The USA will play England in their first group stage game on Sept 9th,..after the Churchill Cup...

Anyone here follow rugby?

Who else is going to be watching the Churchill Cup and the Rugby World Cup?

dubs · Post by **dubs** » Sat May 05, 2007 9:00 am

The Churchill cup has never really been publicised much here! This year though, it's in England for the first time, so I'm hoping to see the matches televised! It'll be interesting to see Canada and the US, styles of play, and as you say they can be useful lead-in games to the World Cup, in France. England are current holders of the World Cup, but if I'm honest, I cannot see us retaining it! The team that won four years ago, is almost gone, injury, retirements, coach changes, have contributed to us being a shadow of that side! It's only the last few months, that England have started to look cohesive again, much, much too late to prepare to defend the trophy! It's not all doom and gloom! I'll still be shouting my head off for my country! Looking forward to the Churchill Cup, and absolutely cannot wait for the World Cup.....I may have given that away, with my avatar!

Rugby World Cup 2007....France

RWC 2007 MATCH SCHEDULE

M Date Team 1 Team 2 Pool Venue KO (local French time)

1 07/09/2007 France Argentina D St Denis 21:00

2 08/09/2007 New Zealand Italy C Marseille 13:45

3 08/09/2007 Australia Japan B Lyon 15:45

4 08/09/2007 England USA A Lens 18:00

5 09/09/2007 Wales Canada B Nantes 14:00

6 09/09/2007 South Africa Samoa A Paris 16:00

7 09/09/2007 Scotland Portugal C St Etienne 18:00

8 09/09/2007 Ireland Namibia D Bordeaux 20:00

9 11/09/2007 Argentina Georgia D Lyon 20:00

10 12/09/2007 USA Tonga A Montpellier 14:00

11 12/09/2007 Japan Fiji B Toulouse 18:00

12 12/09/2007 Italy Romania C Marseille 20:00

13 14/09/2007 England South Africa A St Denis 21:00

14 15/09/2007 New Zealand Portugal C Lyon 13:00

15 15/09/2007 Wales Australia B Cardiff 15:00

16 15/09/2007 Ireland Georgia D Bordeaux 21:00

17 16/09/2007 Fiji Canada B Cardiff 14:00

18 16/09/2007 Samoa Tonga A Montpellier 16:00

19 16/09/2007 France Namibia D Toulouse 21:00

20 18/09/2007 Scotland Romania C Edinburgh 21:00

21 19/09/2007 Italy Portugal C Paris 20:00

22 20/09/2007 Wales Japan B Cardiff 21:00

23 21/09/2007 France Ireland D St Denis 21:00

24 22/09/2007 South Africa Tonga A Lens 14:00

25 22/09/2007 England Samoa A Nantes 16:00

26 22/09/2007 Argentina Namibia D Marseille 21:00

27 23/09/2007 Australia Fiji B Montpellier 14:30

28 23/09/2007 Scotland New Zealand C Edinburgh 17:00

29 25/09/2007 Canada Japan B Bordeaux 18:00

30 25/09/2007 Romania Portugal C Toulouse 20:00

31 26/09/2007 Georgia Namibia D Lens 18:00

32 26/09/2007 Samoa USA A St Etienne 20:00

33 28/09/2007 England Tonga A Paris 21:00

34 29/09/2007 New Zealand Romania C Toulouse 13:00

35 29/09/2007 Australia Canada B Bordeaux 15:00

36 29/09/2007 Wales Fiji B Nantes 17:00

37 29/09/2007 Scotland Italy C St Etienne 21:00

38 30/09/2007 France Georgia D Marseille 15:00

39 30/09/2007 Ireland Argentina D Paris 17:00

40 30/09/2007 South Africa USA A Montpellier 20:00

41 06/10/2007 W Pool B RU Pool A QF1 Marseille 15:00

42 06/10/2007 W Pool C RU Pool D QF2 Cardiff 21:00

43 07/10/2007 W Pool A RU Pool B QF3 Marseille 15:00

44 07/10/2007 W Pool D RU Pool C QF4 St Denis 21:00

45 13/10/2007 W QF1 W QF2 SF1 St Denis 21:00

46 14/10/2007 W QF3 W QF4 SF2 St Denis 21:00

47 19/10/2007 Bronze Paris 21:00

48 20/10/2007 Final St Denis 21:00

Forty eight games of top quality Rugby! BRING IT ON!

Sweet Tooth · Post by **Sweet Tooth** » Sat May 05, 2007 9:30 am

I LOVE RUGBY!!!!

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Sat May 05, 2007 9:37 am

dubs;607220 wrote: The Churchill cup has never really been publicised much here! This year though, it's in England for the first time, so I'm hoping to see the matches televised! It'll be interesting to see Canada and the US, styles of play, and as you say they can be useful lead-in games to the World Cup, in France. England are current holders of the World Cup, but if I'm honest, I cannot see us retaining it! The team that won four years ago, is almost gone, injury, retirements, coach changes, have contributed to us being a shadow of that side! It's only the last few months, that England have started to look cohesive again, much, much too late to prepare to defend the trophy! It's not all doom and gloom! I'll still be shouting my head off for my country! Looking forward to the Churchill Cup, and absolutely cannot wait for the World Cup.....I may have given that away, with my avatar!

Forty eight games of top quality Rugby! BRING IT ON!

I watched the England vs France game earlier today from the 6 nations cup...

Them beating France surely is enough to retain enough confidence in them to do well in any competition...

I've been checking espn and hadn't seen that they will be airing the Churchill Cup but I can't imagine that anything affiliated with the US national team in any sport won't be televised here...

But none the less I just downloaded SopCast and was able to view the Fulham game that just ended...

Man Dempsey is the man of the year for Fulham I think...It was a stalemate throughout the entire game until Dempsey came on...Less than ten minutes in he scores one that eventually is the game winner...

But I'll be looking forward to the Churchill Cup as it's not 3 months away like the World Cup is...

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Sat May 05, 2007 1:55 pm

On a side note after I watched the England vs France 6 Nations Cup game I happened to catch an NRL game from Australia and the games looked totally different...

In the Australian NRL they seem to enforce some sort of rule where the entire line has to back up while only leaving two people in the scrum...I didn't like that style of play at all...It's as if they are allowing people to have a better opportunity in scoring and I think it sort of negates the entire point of the game...

dubs · Post by **dubs** » Sat May 05, 2007 4:02 pm

Ah! You saw the two different codes of the same game! Rugby Union, is the fifteen a side game, which in theory is amateur, in reality they earn mega bucks, from sponsorship and the like! That's the World cup version!

The other game you saw, is Rugby League, which is the thirteen a side game, and is the professional version! there are lots of similarities, it's slightly faster paced. As you said they don't scrum much, they, on being tackled, kick the ball back between their legs to a team mate, and they can do this for five plays, before control hands over to their opponents! There's much made of "the sixth tackle", cos if they don't score off it, they've wasted their attack phase! Players switch codes between League and Union, both ways, on a regular basis! I prefer Rugby Union.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Sat May 05, 2007 4:10 pm

dubs;607409 wrote: Ah! You saw the two different codes of the same game! Rugby Union, is the fifteen a side game, which in theory is amateur, in reality they earn mega bucks, from sponsorship and the like! That's the World cup version!

The other game you saw, is Rugby League, which is the thirteen a side game, and is the professional version! there are lots of similarities, it's slightly faster paced. As you said they don't scrum much, they, on being tackled, kick the ball back between their legs to a team mate, and they can do this for five plays, before control hands over to their opponents! There's much made of "the sixth tackle", cos if they don't score off it, they've wasted their attack phase! Players switch codes between League and Union, both ways, on a regular basis! I prefer Rugby Union.

Oh ok...More of an American style format incorporated into the game of rugby...I'm assuming for scoring purposes...

To be honest, and coming from someone whos favorite sport is American football, I liked the International style rugby better...

The backing up just seemed too timid for a sport that can be catagorized as being one of the toughest in the world...

dubs · Post by **dubs** » Sat May 05, 2007 4:14 pm

Yeah I agree with you! That's how I see it!

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Thu May 17, 2007 7:53 pm

England get set to play the U.S tomorrow in the Churchill Cup...

I'll be tuned in that's for sure...

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:55 pm

The USA vs England game kicks off at 7:45 EST (US) 1:45 (UK - I think...)

In any case it starts in about an hour...

If it's not being aired where you are you can try streaming it...

I stream alot of sports games here at www.myp2p.eu...

I don't know if they will be showing it...I would try and google alot about streaming...I've been able to get alot of premiership games through myp2p...

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Fri May 18, 2007 5:31 pm

Well from my understanding they've already played that game...

Setanta Broadband is utterly pathetic...

They have the same match listed at two completely different times...

I'm canceling my subscription at the end of this month...

England won but I would have at least gotten the chance to see it...

Setanta is worthless...I'll be streaming games from now on...

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Fri May 18, 2007 5:37 pm

Well from the looks of the score I probably wouldn't have wanted to see that match...:wah:

Man I thought we were getting better at rugby...

Basketball?...Basketball anyone?

No?

Baseball?...

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Thu May 24, 2007 6:38 am

USA played Scotland yesterday...Scotland won 13-9 but the USA seriously had a shot to win that game if it hadn't been for their constant inability to stay consistent...

The US had given up from what I had seen about 10 mistakes that could have been avoided if it weren't for simple fundamentals...

They didn't look all that bad but if they expect to beat the worlds best they just simply have to get better...