I just received the most iinteresting private message....

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:56 pm

And I quote

"Nomad wrote: Your a pig. I mean that.

jAnd here is my response....

+++++++++++ Thiis demonstrates one of the reasons I don't particularly enjoy you. I'm sorry you feel the need to insult me.

And I'm sorry you feel the need to insult others.

You WILL reap the karmic results of your own behavior.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:06 pm

Lulu- grow up. Just send the damn thing to HQ if you must but nobody cares. NOBODY CARES. Post some thing worth our time.

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:07 pm

Thanks so much for your understanding, Glitter. I hope it never happens to you.

Somehow, I expect that anyone who posts here would be highly offended by being called a "pig."

Wouldn't you?

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:19 pm

Yes, I think it is....although everyone knows I'm an "animal person, " I somehow doubt this is a compliment....especially when the enitre thread consists of that one statement.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:26 pm

Lulu2;503720 wrote:

Somehow, I expect that anyone who posts here would be highly offended by being called a "pig."

Wouldn't you?

I take it you've never asked this question outside of a strip club...

But then again, I suppose that comes down to personal perception as opposed to sheer experience...

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:27 pm

And perhaps it would be funny if YOU called yourself a pig? Or if, knowing you well and seeing you snort or eat heartily, I called you a pig?

That's not the case here.

Am I missing something? Would YOU have used this word to apply to me in an unsolicted private message, Floppy?

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:31 pm

LULU2 I agree not a very nice thing to call anyone every..

I'm sorry you received this in a PM, send it to TS for review. This place is going to hell in a hand basket.. :-1 I hate the ugly turns that have taken place.

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:33 pm

Thanks, Carla...it's nice to know that some posters here have the manners their mother taught them! My mother would slap my face (figuratively) for a comment like this one!

LilacDragon · Post by **LilacDragon** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:36 pm

flopstock;503740 wrote: Well, for me it's not so much that I'm an animal lover as it is my tendency to snort appallingly loud when I get to laughing. What's worse is that the more I try to control it the worse it gets... then I get the hiccups..and it's all downhill from there.

It's true. I've seen it. LOL!

As for what someone sent you in a private message - why would you post it on the open forum? With all of the hurt feelings, bickering and what not that has been going on - why post this for everyone to see? If you have a problem with someone, put them on ignore. Then they can't send you pm's and you don't have to see what they have posted.

I belong to 6 different forums and I would be SHOCKED if everyone on every one of them liked me. And I have gotten my fair share of nasty pm's. Not once have I felt the need to post one on the open forum to stir up trouble.

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:38 pm

Well, LD...I posted it because I was shocked at the venom expressed in it...and thought that anyone else who posts here might be interested in the general nastiness it conveys....especially since it's a big surprise.

How would YOU feel, if you received it?

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:40 pm

I see...so youtr advice is to just ignore this?

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:43 pm

Thanks Lilac. There's only one reason anyone posts a PM on the board and that's so all their buddies will come running and rake the "bad guy" over the coals. I received a nastygram yesterday but I saw no need to reply to or even acknowledge it. That person has a personal problem with me and I consider her to be garbage, so what do I care what she thinks of me? You've been all around the world Lulu, surely you're sophisticated enough to make like a duck and let it roll off?

I can't believe I pay to be here.

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:45 pm

Thanks so much for your opinion, Glitter. Again...I hope it never happens to you.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:47 pm

Uh Lulu? I think I just finished saying it did, didn't I?

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:48 pm

I see...so your advice is to rise above the infantile insults?

Works for me.

LilacDragon · Post by **LilacDragon** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:48 pm

Lulu2;503755 wrote: Well, LD...I posted it because I was shocked at the venom expressed in it...and thought that anyone else who posts here might be interested in the general nastiness it conveys....especially since it's a big surprise.

How would YOU feel, if you received it?

Honestly - I would probably laugh myself right out of my chair.

As for nastiness, I have to agree with Floppy there. Having been a member for going on a year and I am fairly certain that if Nomad had wanted to be nasty - his verbal repetiore is MUCH larger and more creative.

While I can understand your being "shocked at the venom", I must say I would have pm'ed him back and ask him about instead of posting it and making it a bigger thing then it probably was.

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:49 pm

Lulu2;503767 wrote: I see...so your advice is to rise above the infantile insults?

Works for me.

So sorry, Glitter...didn't mean to seemingly ignore your imperatives.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:50 pm

Lulu2;503767 wrote: I see...so your advice is to rise above the infantile insults?

Works for me.

I think that's what we're saying, unless you would want to respond and be infantile yourself.

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:51 pm

Why, thanks so much for your considered advice!

LilacDragon · Post by **LilacDragon** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:59 pm

Well, honey - what do you want us to say? There must be half a dozen current threads about the nastiness and negative attitude that has been prevalent on the forum lately.

You want us all to lynch Nomad? It seems to me that his name gets tossed around plenty without your pm to add fuel to whoever's fire.

I guess I have a real hard time with someone's compulsion to post the contents of a pm.

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:06 pm

Guess what, Glitter...I know this is nonsense...just wanted people to see the kind of trash being thrown around behind the scenes by someone on the board to another member of the board..

Charming.

OBVIOUSLY it doesn't impact any self-image, etc. It's only interesting.

What do I expect people to do here? Just note and remember. That's all.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:14 pm

Lulu, it's not charming and it's certainly not interesting. Take a look around you. There is sh*t all over this place. Everybody is in each other's hair. Your PM is no different from the crap that is happening "in" the scenes. Those of us who would like to get away from this junk and come here and have a good time can't because of people -including you now- who keep inundating us with more garbage. I thought you were better than that. I was called worse in grade school. If someone else cannot be an adult then you must try to be. Why don't you go start a thread of something worth talking about and I will happily follow you there? Maybe others will too.

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:40 pm

Interesting...I hadn't realized so many nasty private messages were being circulated. So many of you are telling me to shut up and let it go.

Since I've never sent a private message with anywhere NEAR this level of disrespect, I was aghast....silly me! Guess I've been living in another world?

OK...I'll consider the source...shut up and let it go.

However, I hope that those of you who are equally naive will read this thread and pay attention to the lack of surprise and the lack of concern over the content. You should know that, to my best recollection, I've never exchanged private messages with the author of this one. It came "out of the blue," so to speak.

Bear that in mind and open YOUR private messages accordingly.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:54 pm

LULU

Was there other correspondence before that comment?

Why I ask - I agree with Flop - if someone is mad the word pig wouldn't be what I'd say. Could you be misunderstanding this?

Pig is just not in the mad vocabulary - if I was pissed at you I'd call you a B----.

See feel better now.?

Patsy

devist8me · Post by **devist8me** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:09 pm

Lulu, I don't even know you but your being a bit dramatic about the whole thing and seem disappointed that no one else is getting dramatic with you.

I hope you find what your looking for.....

Dev.....surfing on.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:15 am

If Nomad did pm you that you are a pig then i have to say how dissapointed i am in him.

But he kept it off the board,

i've seen gardeners post much worse to each other and it causes WW3!

I'm not condoning what he said lulu, but did you have his permission to post his pm to you?

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:27 am

Lulu...I'm sorry you've been upset but I don't think it's useful to post PMs publicly.

Try and sort this out with Nomad....every problem has a solution and it usually means communicating.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:37 am

2007 is the year of the pig.

Is this a thread about astrology? My daughter is a pig. She just informed me. I didn't know that until just now.

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:51 am

I got one from Nomad too, Lulu, and mine was much worse than that. And I used to like him a lot. Thought he was a nice bloke, a bit strange at times, but interesting and caring. In fact, he was one of the people I was initially delighted to have found. He went away for a while. I was one of the people clamoring to get him to come back, and he did, but he came back changed. Soured and paranoid. I don't know why. I hope he finds his peace.

My comment in SnoozeControl's breast-beating thread was to Spot - who I also originally admired. He taunted Snooze in the second or third post of having no friends, and then said her thread was just another one of many 'goodbye, you'll be sorry, tell me you love me', type threads. I often don't agree with Snooze, but I thought she deserved better.

I don't need this now. 2006 has been a tough year. I have been coming in here to relax and unwind. It's not working for me. And now I believe even BabyRider has left. That's a pity.

As far as I'm concerned, I've done nothing to merit being an object of such ongoing nastiness. I was only a member of the private 'gossip group' Nomad so viciously hated in its last days and I didn't and still don't see eye to eye with many of the past members of that on a lot of things. We were individuals with different opinions. There was never any 'gang', as such. This was a verbal creation of Spot's.

I called Nomad out only in one thread, when he was claiming a monopoly on decency and at the same time had just posted insulting filth to my Italian friend. He apologised for that, and Accadue accepted his explanation and apology. End of story.

I don't do venom, and I don't do all the other horrible stuff Nomad's accused me of. But nor do I stay around to participate in an ongoing common brawl.

Floppy - I'm sorry your vision has somehow got skewed. You used to be one of the people who were even handed.

Red Glitter - Please try and get to Tuscany. Travel a bit. See the world.

Lulu - you're a really nice person, intelligent and kind.

Theia - Love you!!! Really...

Koan - I never had any problems with you. I carry none of the baggage some apparently had. I always liked you, find you interesting. Sorry I couldn't get to know you better.

Spot - You were one of the first people I met here, that engaged my brain. But I don't like you. And it's from what you said about Six, not about any ongoing feud you have with LC.

Galbally - Make more of that fine music!!! HUGS!!

Chonsi, Cher, lots of other fine people - the goodies will win!!!

BabyRider - loved you to bits

Pinky - you too.

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:58 am

I'm sorrry I omitted you Diuretic, and lots of other fine people too.. Cars.. you. Unk. Forgive me for forgetting some of you, I'm upset.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:09 am

I erased my profile for about a year.

I am glad I didn't delete my account.

Anyone who needs a break should do just that. As an aside - when I left I didn't tell anyone. That's how you know when someone is serious. They just go. It's amazing how much you miss the place after awhile. Even with all the crap I've gotten here over the years, I still enjoy being here.

Tombstone: You've got a great place here. :-6

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:12 am

Glad you pointed that out, Koan. Sometimes when this stuff happens I feel bad for Tombstone. LIke the groups. He was looking forward to having those and they all went to hell in a handbasket. I lost my cool recently while being baited by a "popular" member but not again. It's like 8th grade all over again and it's really transparent.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:14 am

Popular is a state of mind. My kid loves me.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:15 am

devist8me · Post by **devist8me** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:21 am

Reckon Nomad would send me a super nasty PM if I beg? I'm talking NASTY. The nastier the better. I LOVE nasty.

Nomad, hook me up would ya?

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:25 am

Diuretic;503970 wrote: My dog loves me.

My cat tolerates me (damn unrequited love)...

Cats :rolleyes:

devist8me;503973 wrote: Reckon Nomad would send me a super nasty PM if I beg? I'm talking NASTY. The nastier the better. I LOVE nasty.

Nomad, hook me up would ya?

Maybe Tombstone could set up request access area called "Talk Dirty To Me"

I'm in!!! :wah:

Gnomie - you've got clients waiting

Post by **spot** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:35 am

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 8 (1 members and 7 guests)

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:54 am

I dont think the open forum is the place to display private messages, further to that if a witch hunt starts for Nomad's head - bad choice of member to go after, way too many love him.

It takes two to tango Lulu & i find it hard to believe he said that to you with no reason but i doubt he would post what led to him saying it.

devist8me · Post by **devist8me** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:04 am

spot;504009 wrote: Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 8 (1 members and 7 guests)

Can you check IPs on your "guests"?