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:yh_rotfl ROFL!!!

where did you get that? it's hilarious!

:wah: uhh ohh

SnoozeControl;458410 wrote: Before anyone accuses me of some racial hate crime, I got that in an email from a woman of color that I work with.
i meant is it a goof or for real? (stupid question i know).

that never even crossed my mind either........:-2

SnoozeControl;458384 wrote:


That just goes to show us ALL,



..............line ups and sketch's can be deceiving.....

Go figure................. Wrong place ............... Wrong time,



can get you "time" in the slammer............



How many are sitting on death row falsely accused from a reliable EYE witness?





TOOO mANY

BTS;458526 wrote:



How many are sitting on death row falsely accused from a reliable EYE witness?





TOOO mANY


That's ironic...

Considering you would have to prove it. :wah:

What that picture didn't show was his furtive glances to the monitor as he read; the sweat that popped out on his forehead, then ran down his cheek; then his sudden disappearance during the next commercial. :wah:

Excellent!

K.Snyder;458602 wrote: That's ironic...



Considering you would have to prove it. :wah:


K hear u go!!!!!! Snyder.........







Larry Fuller


In April 1981, a Dallas woman was attacked and raped in her bedroom. When police showed her photographs of potential suspects two days later, she did not identify Fuller. Several days later, police showed her a second group of photos. The photograph of Fuller was the only one that appeared in both arrays. Although the victim said her attacker did not have facial hair, and Fuller was pictured with a full beard, she identified him and he was arrested. Twenty-five years later, Fuller has been exonerated by DNA.







Allen Coco


Nine years after he was convicted of rape and burglary and 11 years after his arrest, DNA tests have cleared Allen Coco's name and record. The 38-year-old Louisiana man had insisted since his arrest in 1995 that he was innocent. The 28-year-old victim had chosen his picture from a photo lineup.

Link

The Pathetic Legal Cases Against Jerry L. Parker




Stuart Gair


Stuart Gair, of Glasgow, Scotland, was convicted of stabbing a man to death in 1989 and sentenced to life in prison. Gair had a solid alibi that placed him on the other side of the city at the time of the crime, but the jury believed an eyewitness who said he "studied" the killer's face. What neither the jury nor Gair's attorneys knew was that the eyewitness had already admitted to police that he had made up most of his identification story. Seventeen years later, Gair's conviction has finally been vacated.





James Calvin Tillman


A man imprisoned for more than 18 years for kidnapping and raping a woman was released after new forensic tests showed evidence from the crime did not match his DNA. James Calvin Tillman, 44, told his family he wanted to take a quiet walk and watch the squirrels play for the first time since 1989, when he was convicted and sentenced to 45 years in prison. Tillman was 26 when he was charged with abducting a woman as she got into her car near a Hartford restaurant, then beating and raping her at a nearby housing project. The victim picked out Tillman from a series of photos and he was convicted.





Experts don't see police errors in Tillman case


The most striking aspect of Journal Inquirer interviews with four eyewitness-identification experts about the case of James Calvin Tillman is what they failed to produce. None of the experts identified a clear error in the procedures Hartford police used in investigating the case. Although several experts suggested that the jury in Tillman's 1989 trial would have benefited by hearing from an expert in eyewitness identification, none identified a compelling point an expert could have made to change the jurors' minds.





Shaun Rodrigues


Shaun Rodrigues claims he is innocent of a Manoa, Hawaii robbery that happened in July, 2000. Robert Rees of the Honolulu Advertiser described Rodrigues' conviction: "What we have here is an injustice illustrative of the dangers inherent in eyewitness identifications without one iota of physical evidence. The Rodrigues verdict is illustrative also of the danger of combining overzealous prosecutors, uninhibited either by a dearth of evidence or by sloppy police work, with a judge who may have allowed her subjective feeling about the credibility of witnesses to become a factor in determination of guilt." But the Hawaii Supreme Court upheld his conviction, and he turned himself in on January 9, 2006.



Rodrigues Conviction Hardly Convincing

State Supreme Court Affirms Conviction





Clyde Johnson, IV


It took a courtroom minute to end 15 months of limbo for Clyde A. Johnson 4th, a Philadelphia, PA social worker wrongly accused of a shooting that investigators now say could be linked to confessed serial killer Juan Covington. Police arrested Johnson after he was picked out of a photo lineup by the victim. Unable to post $1 million bail, Johnson was detained at the city's Curran-Fromhold Correctional Facility. When Covington confessed to three slayings, police took a second look at the case against Johnson. The Bryant shooting occurred around the corner from Covington's home. Bullets were tested and matched a gun owned by Covington.





Forest Shomberg


Forest Shomberg, 41, is serving a 12-year prison term for a sexual assault in Madison, WI, a crime for which he has always professed innocence. At the heart of his appeal is the argument that the trial judge erred in disallowing testimony from an expert witness knowledgeable in the area of eyewitness identifications. The victim agreed at trial with statements that she picked Shomberg because he was "the best of the six," even though "he very well could have not been the guy." His fate now rests in the hands of the Wisconsin Supreme Court.





David Hansen


DNA has allowed Minneapolis, Minnesota police officer David Hansen to dodge a deadly bullet. When a woman was raped in February, 2005 by a man who offered her a ride home from her health club, she picked David out of more than 1,400 photos of club members. Arrested, charged with first-degree sexual contact and kidnapping, placed on administrative leave, David was cleared by DNA. The charges have been dropped, although the county attorney says there is no evidence that leads to another suspect.







Luis Diaz


For 26 years, the people of Miami, Florida believed the Bird Road Rapist was Luis Diaz, and that he had been caught and locked up. The rapist was named after the location in the Miami area where the rapes occurred. The rapist used the same method with all of his victims: He attacked young women driving in the Bird Road-U.S. 1 area of Coral Gables. He would signal the women to pull over by flashing his headlights, then force them to have sex at gunpoint. Diaz was convicted based on identifications made by eight victims, even though some of them initially described their attacker as being 6-feet tall, 200 pounds, and fluent in English. Diaz is 5-foot-3, about 130 pounds and speaks little to no English. He also constantly smelled of onions because he worked as a fry cook - although none of the victims described their attacker having that odor. Now DNA as excluded Diaz as the Bird Road Rapist, and he has been set free.









Alejandro Dominguez


Alejandro Dominguezwas 16 when he was charged with the September 1989 home invasion and rape in Waukegan. He was convicted in a 1990 trial, in large part because the victim identified him as her attacker. Dominguez insisted he was wrongly identified and was innocent. Sentenced to 9 years in state prison, he served more than 4 years, receiving time off for good behavior, before he was released in December 1993. Even though he was free, Dominguez continued to try to prove his innocence. He persuaded lawyer Jed Stone to seek DNA testing on semen recovered from the victim. The tests excluded Dominguez as a source of the semen, and they prompted Lake County prosecutors and Stone to ask a judge to vacate the convictions.









Juneal Pratt


Thirty years ago Juneal Pratt was convicted of raping two sisters who were staying in a motel together in Omaha, Nebraska. The conviction hinged on the women's identification of Pratt in a line up; his alibi witnesses were rejected by the jury. New testing has excluded Pratt as the source of DNA found on the women's clothes. He stands on the brink of becoming Nebraska's first DNA exoneration.





Preventing Wrongful Convictions


Mistaken eyewitness identification is the major reason innocent people have been sent to prison in Virginia, a two-year study of 11 wrongful convictions concludes. Preventing such tragedies could be as simple as changing police procedures or as expensive as improving the quality of legal help given poor people in Virginia, which pays court-appointed lawyers the lowest fees in the nation.





Michael Williams


In May 1981, when Michael Williams was 16, a jury in Jonesboro, LA rejected his claim of innocence, deliberating for less than an hour before convicting him of the savage beating and sexual assault of his math tutor. Nearly 24 years after his arrest, independent DNA tests by three laboratories, including the Louisiana state crime lab, show what Williams has long contended: He is not the man who committed the crime.





Vishnu Persad


The victim, shot while riding on the back of her husband's motorcycle in South Florida, identified someone else as her assailant. The best-positioned eyewitness was unable to pick out Persad from a photo lineup; he, too, picked someone else. He couldn't identify him in court, either. The same eyewitness said there was nothing unusual about the assailant's car, while Persad's car had foreign slogans written all over it. Moreover, three witnesses testified Persad was studying for an exam with them when the incident happened. But the victim's husband was shown a photo of Persad by an ex-FBI investigator, told Persad was the assailant, identified him in court -- and Persad is doing 43 years in prison.





Clarence Harrison


Clarence Harrison of Decatur, GA, has spent 17 years in prison for rape, kidnapping and robbery. The victim identified him from both a photo and live lineup. He has become the 150th person proven innocent by DNA in the past ten years.





Arthur Lee Whitfield


Arthur Lee Whitfield spent part of his first hours of freedom standing up on the bus that carried him home. Whitfield was released from prison after DNA tests exonerated him of raping two women in Ghent, VA in August 1981. He had served 22 years of a 63-year sentence. Whitfield had little to say to the investigator who helped convict him, or to the two women who at trial said they were sure he was the man who had raped them. “It would be nice for them to say they made a mistake, he said. “It takes a big person to say they made a mistake.



Wilton Dedge


This Sharpes, FL case was a classic -- mistaken victim identification and perjured snitch testimony put him in prison for a 1981 rape. He has been exonerated by DNA, and freed after 22 years.





Boston Police Update Eyewitness Identification Methods


After nine men were convicted here for crimes they did not commit, Boston police and the Suffolk County district attorney's office have agreed on a series of reforms on how evidence is gathered, especially from witnesses to a crime.





Click HERE to read the Report of the Task Force on Eyewitness Evidence.




David Lemus and Omaldo Hidalgo


David Lemus and Olmado Hidalgo have spent 12 years in jail for the murder of a New York City nightclub bouncer named Marcus Peterson and the attempted murder of another man on Nov. 23, 1990. Three eyewitnesses identified Jose Figueroa.as the man who had acted as a mediator between the bouncers and the murderers during an argument earlier in the night. But Figueroa was in jail that night, and the same eyewitnesses also identified Lemus and Hidalgo.





Navy/Yale Study: Eyewitnesses Unreliable


Victims who get a good long look at violent criminals are unlikely to identify them accurately later, Yale and U.S. Navy researchers have found. This caveat follows from a unique study of 509 Navy and Marine officers undergoing elite survival training at Fort Bragg, N.C. Results suggest that police and juries may give eyewitness testimony too much credibility.



Michael Roper


Michael Roper's case has all the hallmarks of a wrongful conviction -- shaky eyewitness identification, jailhouse "snitch" testimony and no physical evidence connecting him to the murder of an Akron, Ohio convenience store owner. At his 4th trial the jury convicted him, but they didn't know another suspect closely resembles Roper.



UPDATE: Michael Roper denied new trial despite prosecutor misconduct.





Stephan Cowans


In 1997 an assailant dropped his hat when he shot Boston police officer Gregory Gallagher in the buttocks. Then the shooter burst into a nearby home, drank a glass of water and dropped his sweatshirt before fleeing. Later Officer Gallagher identified Stephan Cowans as the assailant (although the woman whose home was invaded disagreed) and a crime lab technician said a fingerprint on the water glass was Stephan's. Now DNA has trumped both. DNA on the hat, the sweatshirt and the water glass are from the same person -- but not from Stephan.



Link: Landmark Series from the Winston-Salem, NC Journal

Murder, Race, Justice

The State of North Carolina v. Darryl Hunt


When a 19-year-old black man was charged with the murder of 25-year-old Deborah Sykes, it set off a case that has helped define race relations in Winston-Salem for nearly 20 years. Hunt was convicted twice despite the lack of physical evidence and DNA tests that excluded him. Although such DNA test results have freed numerous others in rape and murder cases, Hunt remains in prison.



February 7, 2004: Darryl Hunt Exonerated. Darryl Hunt's long imprisonment in connection with the 1984 rape and murder of Deborah Sykes in Winston-Salem, NC was a case of mistaken identity. Another man killed her, the police and prosecutors have admitted. And most importantly, that man acted alone. Unfortunately, police and prosecutors were so thorough in inciting hatred and a desire for revenge against Darryl Hunt in Deborah Sykes' family that her mother and step-father refuse to accept Hunt's innocence. Bitter Justice



Other so-called forensic identification sciences, including microscopic hair analysis, handwriting identification, bite-mark analysis, ballistics, and even fingerprints have also been under attack in recent years. The Supreme Court, in its 1993 Daubert decision, established the “known rate of error as one of the indicia of scientific reliability. Yet courts continue to admit "ear witness identification" and juries continue to convict innocent people believing witnesses are much better at voice recognition than research indicates. Falling on Deaf Ears



After 17 years in prison - most of it seeking DNA tests to prove his innocence - Lonnie Erby walked free on August 25th because genetic testing conclusively showed he had not committed two of the three rapes for which he was convicted. His exoneration came despite strenuous opposition by Circuit Attorney Jenniver Joyce, who argued the DNA testing would cause unnecessary upheaval for victims and their families and unneeded expense. All three victims picked him out of a line up. Lonnie Erby



People think of memory as a videotape recording in the brain. But few people, if any, can reliably distinguish between memories of something they've been shown and something they've been asked to imagine. In fact, we assemble our memories by patching together broken pieces of stored information and then filling in the blanks. Now there is hope of a False Memory Detector

Dana Holland, 35, was freed after a Cook County judge found him not guilty in a retrial on the 1993 attempted murder and armed robbery of a woman in Chicago. Holland had been linked to that crime by a wallet found at the scene that had belonged to another woman, a rape victim. Holland was originally convicted of that rape, but DNA evidence exonerated him of it earlier this year. He had been sentenced to more than 100 years in prison for both crimes and served 10 years. The victim of the attempted murder testified against Holland again this week, identifying him in court. Eyewitnesses Rarely Concede Error



After 11 years in prison, DNA has cleared Michael Mercer of raping a 17-year-old girl. The victim saw Mercer 2 months after she was attacked and identified him as her assailant. She was certain, but she was wrong



In 1983, in Lowell, MA, two rape victims identified Dennis Maher as their assailant. For 19 years, Dennis protested his innocence. DNA tests have confirmed his innocence and he has been freed. 126th DNA Exoneration



Of the 125 wrongly convicted persons exonerated by DNA, Marvin Anderson is the only one where the real rapist was shown to the victim in the original photo spread, and instead she picked an innocent man. Fallibility of Eyewitness Identication



In 1998, a rape victim identified Josiah Sutton as one of her assailants when she saw him on the street, and the Houston, Texas crime lab claimed DNA tests implicated him. The crime lab has been shut down because of the poor quality of its work, and new DNA tests have excluded Josiah. 4 1/2 Years in Prison -- for Nothing



Over 21 years ago, a rape victim in Hampton Roads, VA saw Julius Ruffin on an elevator and insisted he was her attacker. After two mistrials, he was convicted at a third trial and sentenced to five life terms. Now he has been Cleared by DNA.



Eleven years after Terry Arndt was murdered and his girlfriend raped in Shasta County, CA, the rape victim identified Thomas Brewster as the assailant -- even though she failed to pick him out of a line up 6 days after the attack. The charges cost Brewster almost 2 years pre-trial in jail; DNA tests cleared him 8 weeks into his capital murder trial. Now it's The System's Turn to Pay



Louisville, KY financial advisor Troy Rufra was identified by four eyewitnesses as the man who robbed an equal number of banks. The eyewitnesses were sure. The problem? The Eyewitnesses were Wrong



Bernard Webster spent 20 years in prison for raping a Baltimore, MD woman when he was 19 years old. He was repeatedly denied parole because he refused to admit his guilt. Now DNA has established Bernard's innocence. The victim remains convinced of her identification of him. 115th Person Freed by DNA



In 1984, Larry Johnson of St. Louis, MO was sentenced to life plus 30 years for the rape, sodomy, kidnapping and robbery of a college student. His conviction was based primarily on the victim's identification of him. Fast forward to February, 2002. Broken waterpipes in the courthouse led to discovery of the original rape kit. DNA Exonerates Larry Johnson

Faulty eyewitness identification and coerced confessions are two of the leading factors in the conviction of innocent people for crimes they did not committ. Yet two simple measures could go a long way toward ensuring that findings of criminal guilt are genuine. True Confessions

Nicholas Mobley was locked up for 29 days before murder charges against him were dropped. He is no longer considered a suspect in that slaying, according to police who have acknowledged for the first time that the man's picture was mistakenly picked out of a photo lineup by 5 witnesses. Eyewitness ID Strikes Out Again

Richard Alexander and Anthony Robinson have a lot in common. Both were convicted of rape based on eyewitness identification. Both served long stretches in prison. Both were innocent and were exonerated by DNA. Each is responding to the injustice done him in his own way. Richard Alexander Sues South Bend, Indiana Police

Anthony Robinson Studies Law

Children are the most suggestible of witnesses, particularly when the perpetrator of a ghastly, traumatic crime bears a strong physical resemblance to someone they know. Clarence Elkins of Magnolia, Ohio was convicted of rape and murder four 4 years ago because his niece -- who was six years old at the time -- made just such an error. She has now identified another man as her grandmother's killer, a man who bears a striking resemblance to her uncle. Will the Court Admit Error?



UPDATE: Judge Grants Request for Hearing on New DNA Evidence in Elkins Case



Iowa State University psychology professor Gary Wells, who has written extensively on the subject, says unfounded eyewitness identifications are the greatest single cause of wrongful convictions. Chicago Tribune columnist Steve Chapman examines what we can do to protect against Our Lyin' Eyes.

Meet Michael Kenneth McAlister of Richmond, VA. He's the victim of mistaken identity by the victim of attempted rape. Even the investigator and prosecutor who put him in prison doubt his guilt. They went to the parole board in support of his release, but this is Virginia so the parole board denied McAlister's bid. He is Without Hope



In 1986, a masked man attempted to rape a young mother in Richmond, VA. She was the first victim. Kenneth McAlister looked a lot like the would-be rapist. He was the second victim. McAlister served 18 years in prison for a crime in which he had no part. He was denied parole and pardon even though the detective who arrested him and the prosecutor who charged him went to bat for him, admitted their mistake and said they believe he is innocent. He was released on mandatory parole. Mandatory Freedom



In 1988, EPA agent David Delitta was murdered in a Houston, TX street robbery. The surviving robbery victim helped police work up a composite of the killer, and a detective thought he recognized Anibal Rousseau. Six months later Rousseau was on Death Row, swift and simple as that. Except Rousseau didn't commit the crime. The murder weapon -- in police custody when Anibal was tried -- was traced to another man with a history of robbery and no connection to Rousseau. But Rousseau is Still On Death Row.

Frank Green of the Richmond (VA) Times-Dispatch examines the most infamous faulty eyewitness identification case of our times -- Ronald Cotton -- and compares it with numerous similar cases that have come to light recently. He concludes: The Eyes Don't Have It

Richard Alexander of South Bend, Indiana was arrested in August of 1996, charged with a series of rapes, convicted of two of them and sentenced in 1998 to 70 years in prison. Police said they had a "gut feeling" Richard was innocent, but went forward on the basis of eyewitness identification. The attacks continued after Richard's arrest, so more than "gut feeling" may have been involved. The real rapist has confessed and DNA has excluded Richard. The witnesses were certain. The Witnesses were Mistaken

In 1982 a victim of abduction and rape picked Marvin Lamont Anderson from a photo spread and in a police lineup. The photo was obtained from his employer and was different from the other photos in the spread, one of Anderson's lawyers has said. Also, none of the men used in the photo spread was in the police lineup. In 1988, another man confessed to the crime, but a judge rejected his confession. Now Anderson has been Cleared by DNA

SnoozeControl;458384 wrote:


BTS showed me that pic over a week ago..............

Eyewitness cannot be trusted..............DNA evidence NOW.

well this post was in the 'fun' forum as an amusing pic. we did have death penalty discussions here. or a new one could be created of course. always an interesting and passionate conversation.

THAT is funny.

lady cop;460797 wrote: well this post was in the 'fun' forum as an amusing pic. we did have death penalty discussions here. or a new one could be created of course. always an interesting and passionate conversation.
K....... LC..............

Butt then again I am am assuming you missed this?...... Whom I replied to.



Quote:

Originally Posted by K.Snyder

That's ironic...



Considering you would have to prove it. :wah:



And I DID............









K?:guitarist



Gott ittt ?











FYI

Read the WHOLE POST

BTS;460805 wrote: K....... LC..............

Butt then again I am am assuming you missed this?...... Whom I replied to.



Quote:

Originally Posted by K.Snyder

That's ironic...



Considering you would have to prove it. :wah:



And I DID............

K?:guitarist



Gott ittt ?

FYI

Read the WHOLE POST


My original reply was a joke.....

Because of the irony....

If you want any more insight just ask.

Here's a little more irony...

You posted previous accounts where people whom were convicted of such crimes, and whom have been exonerated as a result of DNA testing, but that has nothing to do with the present, and in no way reflects the amount of people wrongfully incarcerated for any such crimes being recorded to date....

Which goes back to my original reply which was a joke...

You have to prove it. If you could prove it, then they wouldn't be incarcerated...=irony=joke.

Yup, that sure is a funny picture!















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Fuuuuuuuunnnnnnny! :yh_dance

Pinky;461069 wrote: Wow, some knickers have really got bunched over what was meant to be a funny thread huh?

Sense of humour bypass anyone?:rolleyes:
Now THAT would be a funny pic - knickers in a bunch.



First one back gets a piece of cyber-cake. Ready? GO!

Accountable;461064 wrote: Yup, that sure is a funny picture!















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Fuuuuuuuunnnnnnny! :yh_dance:yh_rotfl

I know that newscaster. He's from the Oakland, California Bay Area news. Too funny!! I wonder if he realized. I love that someone was quick enough to think of snapping a photo.