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Sorry, I don't have 17 minutes to watch a poorly done video where I have to read strange fonts while pictures flash behind, making it even more difficult.



Can you give a synopsis, or didn't you watch it?

to what end?

Hamster wrote: Hi Acc... Are you asking that to me or Novelty?Sorry. That was for you. What are we being manipulated toward, or to do?

Snooze asked a question, it was not an attack.

That is what a discussion thread is for, to discuss and ask question, and write answers.

I watched the whole thing. something to think about. ...........

i agree with you hamster. i had heard a few years ago from some military personel that the chip recognition implants were already being tested in the military and the goal is to move it into the general public.

SnoozeControl wrote: I admit I only watched about a minute of the vid but I believe I got the gist of it... TVs being set up in front of sheep, who will brainlessly watch whatever's presented to them without question. Is that correct?


snooze , from what i got out of it, he is making the statement that we are all brainless sheep and believe whatever the government spoon feeds us........without questioning what we hear or see.........

Novelty: I do believe that Snooze Control was simply participating in this discussion thread. I don't see any accusatory language here at all. And I'm objective, believe me.

Feel free to drop back in and discuss some more. People are entitled to their opinions, and if they express them as eloquently and considerately as Snooze did, then that should just *move* this thread along its natural course.

Just my opinion :-6

everyone relax and repeat after me Ohmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!

snoozie would'nt attack a flea, she's a sweetheart:D

Novelty wrote: if you cant be bothered to watch it why comment?

your last statement doesn't make me gravitate towards you,

i concern myself deeply with the content of the video, we all have the right to believe what we like, for you to suggest that i didn't watch it is really not called for, i'm sorry for the poor quality.....Good to see you again, Ian.

Hamster wrote: Ok Acc..you asked for it



I think that the educational system here is aimed at making people "good employees" and gives them little actually training in life and other areas..Agreed.



Hamster wrote: Anyone who is self employed here or is an employer is taxed heavily and I don't believe what the Government says (it claims to encourage small business).My beloved worked in London for a couple of years. Everybody is heavily taxed.... too heavily.



Hamster wrote: There is absolutely no financial education as a part of our schooling-why is that? I think it is so that the have more control over us...Only 1% of the population here are financially free at retirement age-although we earn and average of £1 Million over our working lifetime.Same on this side of the pond. Gov't and advertising encourages everyone to get in and stay in debt for life. It's such a part of culture now, people actually believe families have to have two incomes to survive - not live comfortably, survive! I believe the appropriate exclamation here is "pish posh".



Hamster wrote: There is no spiritual education either-for those are spiritual but not "Religious" such as myself I find I have to seek answers to my own questions. I had the basic training from all religions at school but nothing else..And that was done only because it would have been racist to not include all religions.In the US, that's a family issue. If the parents don't wish to teach their children spirituality, it doesn't get done.



Hamster wrote: In short I suppose I am trying to say that I don't think our Government (any party here..Laboour/Cons/LIb Dems etc) encourage free thinking. In fact I think they actively discourage it-and to follow an alternative path in this society we often hav eto walk a lonely route. Same here. It seems the favorite people to blame is Them. They do everything, and disallow any personal decisions. It's fun to convince someone to take a stand or make a decision. Sometimes they get a guilty thrill out of it, like it's being naughty.



Hamster wrote: Every day I hear people moaning about their jobs etc but not willing to do anything about it-mainlybecause we are told at school: "Work hard, get good grades and get a good job and save for your pension". I don't think that's enough anymore...Yup. There are people where I work now - who've worked at this same job for a decade or more - who think they are powerless to even quit, even though they claim to hate it there.



Hamster wrote: Radical I know but it's just my opinion :oGood ones to have, imo. The last (may I even say worst) thing we can do as free-thinking beings is to depend on the government or anything else to provide for us. It's nice to have them there just in case, but we've given them far too much power and influence.

Now I'm going to hear that song too!:wah:

The video to me, meant.. we are going like lambs to the slaughter. And I believe that to be true. Our youth is drugged, our middle class has disappeared.. and people are so wrapped up in just struggling to survive that big decisions made by government are just being accepted without question. To me, Walmart was the beginning of people becoming clones. The inserted chip is a reality. Debit cards and supermarket ID cards were the beginning of the population being monitored. Self employed people are not supported by the government.. They do not want people to be self employed, they want them dependant and unable to take action. Everyone thinks its so great that computers are so affordable, that everyone has one. They wanted everyone to have one, because they want everyone on the internet. My brain has just begun to consider recently that 911 was a setup. But like the video states the horrific reality of considering that possibilitie forces me into denial. Im scared we should all be scared. And I do believe that the people do not have any power anymore. But what to do? Unlike the 60s and 70s, people no longer band together for a cause. Everyone is isolated... sedated by drugs, entertainment, and once again simply by being caught up in just trying to survive. If I didnt have family, I would just pack up and leave.Try to find a better place, a place that is still free. A place where everyone isnt on medication. A place where free thinking is encouraged. Maybe these basic life rights will return when society starts over again, but I dont think Ill ever see it again in my life time. We are on a roller coaster, and there arent any brakes, or flip off switch.

There are places that are MORE free. Where government is simply a fact of life... not a way of life. We are bombarded daily with ever decision, policy, budget or boo boo the politicians are going to make, have made or are planning to make. Sprituality is a real thing to me, I believe strongly that humans are able ( if they are able to concentrate) on developing a spiritual 6th sense. But again.. life is so stressful that the receiving waves are blocked. And in many cases religion is nothing more than just another sedative.

The value for human life that the US prided itself for for so long... has slid down to the level of the very countries that we criticised for so long.. for placing little value on human life. There is no time to adress the issues of the needy here. There are too many other more important arenas to be involved in. Like the continued strength of the few corporations that are running our country,sss and catapulting our people into zombie land.

New Zealand, Greece & New Zeland and Greece...... I think:-2

Oh, he hasn't been here for a long time.