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Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:46 am
by spot
Q1: Poo to that for clarity then. Discuss. 10 marks.
Q2: And are "some" the same people as "they"? Pick any of the theys when answering. You may offer a probability, or yes, or no. If yes, explain why you're so certain. 10 marks.
Q3: Add appropriate Wikimedia templates ("who", "citation needed", "clarify", "by whom" and "when") where needed. 10 marks.
Q4: (a) Estimate the appropriate aggregated jail time for all defendants. You may choose to exclude Rudy Giuliani on the grounds of probable requisite competence. (b) Give reasons with precedents. 10 points.
Mr Giuliani is 80.
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:21 am
by spot
I get so puzzled on occasion. What on earth is this?
A US Coast Guard helicopter crew rescued a man who was left clinging to an ice box in the Gulf of Mexico after his boat was stranded overnight in waters roiled by Hurricane Milton.
[...]But on Thursday searchers located the man about 30 miles (48km) off Longboat Key, Florida, clinging to an open cooler chest
[...]US Coast Guard rescues man clinging to ice chest in Gulf of Mexico
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ane-milton
What on earth is an ice box / open cooler chest / ice chest? Are we discussing a freezer here? The idea that the report gives three synonyms, all in some sort of of localized vocabulary instead of plain English, in what purports to be a news item in an allegedly English language newspaper, is ridiculous. I have no reason to believe "an ice box / open cooler chest / ice chest" is a freezer. For all I can tell it's something the size of a lunch box used to carry ice.
While I'm on the same page, "after his boat was stranded overnight" is equally baffling. His boat was on a beach? How is that a problem. What else could stranded mean? From the context of being winched from the sea 30 miles offshore it makes no sense at all. If his boat was on a beach, how can that be relevant? If they mean sunk, say sunk. If they have no idea where the boat is, then he found a floating thing and clung to it having been parted from his boat. Would an open freezer not sink? Mine would, it weighs well over a hundred pounds and has no inherent buoyancy. My open picnic cool box might just float given it's made of plastic, but that's as unlikely in this story as a lunch box.
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:58 am
by Bryn Mawr
spot wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:21 am
I get so puzzled on occasion. What on earth is this?
A US Coast Guard helicopter crew rescued a man who was left clinging to an ice box in the Gulf of Mexico after his boat was stranded overnight in waters roiled by Hurricane Milton.
[...]But on Thursday searchers located the man about 30 miles (48km) off Longboat Key, Florida, clinging to an open cooler chest
[...]US Coast Guard rescues man clinging to ice chest in Gulf of Mexico
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ane-milton
What on earth is an ice box / open cooler chest / ice chest? Are we discussing a freezer here? The idea that the report gives three synonyms, all in some sort of of localized vocabulary instead of plain English, in what purports to be a news item in an allegedly English language newspaper, is ridiculous. I have no reason to believe "an ice box / open cooler chest / ice chest" is a freezer. For all I can tell it's something the size of a lunch box used to carry ice.
<Snip>
It’s an electric cool box, usually 12 volt.
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 6:09 am
by spot
Bryn Mawr wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:58 am
spot wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:21 am
I get so puzzled on occasion. What on earth is this?
A US Coast Guard helicopter crew rescued a man who was left clinging to an ice box in the Gulf of Mexico after his boat was stranded overnight in waters roiled by Hurricane Milton.
[...]But on Thursday searchers located the man about 30 miles (48km) off Longboat Key, Florida, clinging to an open cooler chest
[...]US Coast Guard rescues man clinging to ice chest in Gulf of Mexico
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ane-milton
What on earth is an ice box / open cooler chest / ice chest? Are we discussing a freezer here? The idea that the report gives three synonyms, all in some sort of of localized vocabulary instead of plain English, in what purports to be a news item in an allegedly English language newspaper, is ridiculous. I have no reason to believe "an ice box / open cooler chest / ice chest" is a freezer. For all I can tell it's something the size of a lunch box used to carry ice.
<Snip>
It’s an electric cool box, usually 12 volt.
So... it's not capable of making or storing ice???
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 11:43 pm
by spot
"light"? What??
It's like seeing people write "tonnes" to mean lots.
"Lite"!
For goodness' sake, if you're going to use a dumbed Americanism at least do it properly.
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:47 am
by spot
Good lord... <wince>
The UK handling of the COVID 19 pandemic has been nothing short of disastrous with many thousands of unnecessary lives lost
Professor John Ashton, author of Blinded by Corona: How the Pandemic ruined Britain’s Health and Wealth and What to do about it
A Timeline of the Plague of the Plague Year [PDF]
https://covidtheplagueyear.wordpress.com/
That's a harsh judgement, "unnecessary"!
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:52 pm
by spot
What does it take?
"restored"!
Who on earth thinks they can just invent "restituted"? What spell-checker would allow restituted through?
"The Spoils follows the continuing attempts to restitute the assets of a German-Jewish art dealer, drawing attention to how loaded a political and cultural issue restitution has become."
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:33 am
by spot
spot wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:59 am
A train is only submerged in flood water if the flood water is over the train's roof. That is the meaning of submerged. I doubt whether this train's axles got wet. The word required is stranded, not submerged. A train became stranded in flood water, true. A train also became submerged in flood water? Poppycock.
These people just don't use dictionaries, it's the only explanation. From today's Guardian:
I guarantee no homes were left underwater. The suggestion is insane. Perhaps the word sought may have been flooded.
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:08 pm
by spot
I dislike this.
The vandriver is singular. "They" is the agreed neuter in favour of "It". But the word has to be "themself". Seriously it does, English can accomodate so far but no further. A van driver found themself stuck.
The correct place to put that is in your pipe. BBC. Once it's there you know what to do.
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 12:53 am
by spot
The country’s language watchdog is investigating after a Dutch-speaking commuter protested a conductor’s use of “bonjour” – French for “good morning” – to welcome him onboard during a rush-hour train from Mechelen, in Flanders, to the capital, Brussels, in October.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... in-belgium
I'm not one to quibble over trifles. "during a rush-hour train" is not meaningful English, it is an abominable failure to communicate. Simply leave out "during", it's not rocket science - it's grammar.
(And while we're at it, "Dalmation pelican" surely never passed the spellchecker. The OED is pretty convincing: '0 result for "dalmation"', despite which 20% (57) of all "dalmation" Google Search hits worldwide are on Guardian pages.)
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:47 pm
by spot
Gordon Bennett, a fifty thousand year old wetsuit full of leached bones? A distracted pathologist in a hurry? Or a Guardian sub-editor who can't quite express themself coherently.
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 1:16 pm
by spot
"Search for driver after woman hit on golf course"?
Uncalled for, really.
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 2:52 am
by Bryn Mawr
spot wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 1:16 pm
"Search for driver after woman hit on golf course"?
Uncalled for, really.
What you don’t say is that the van was being chased by two police cars
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:28 am
by spot
Bryn Mawr wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 2:52 am
spot wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 1:16 pm
"Search for driver after woman hit on golf course"?
Uncalled for, really.
What you don’t say is that the van was being chased by two police cars
I didn't click the headline.
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:43 am
by spot
Except no, money bags are never worth $300,000. Perhaps "security truck drops $300,000 in money bags on its rounds"? Or just "security truck drops $300,000 on its rounds"? How are the money bags relevant?
Re: Unintelligibly illiterate BBC News article link text
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 1:42 am
by spot
Absolute nonsense. Had there been no "global and highly successful disaster response effort" the death toll would still have been zero. Had the local port not warned people in the first hour to gain higher ground than the beach then yes, people would have died there, but it was pretty blatant to people that they needed to.
All the "global and highly successful disaster response effort" succeeded in doing was to kill a driver who drove off a clifftop during the mandated evacuation of two million coastal residents in Japan.