The Bible shifted some Gears in my mind.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:11 pm

If you go back and study the history of science; real science, around the times of the scientific revolution, you will find that it really began its significance in Christian universitys, and the church, which were both born from the bible. Another major influence by the bible in human history.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:57 am

The bible helped to create the Salvation army and Hospice. It helped create some of the largest prison ministrys around this globe. And it helped establish the Red Cross.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:13 pm

The bible helped establish the crisis pregnancy centers

the promise keepers

family research council

rutherford insititute

habitat for humanity

and world vision. It even helped form the YMCA; people who seem to think the bible is meaningless, just don't know what their talking about, they don't have a clue to its real impact on humanity.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:08 am

The bible cannot be excluded from the human reality, no matter what way you view it or what science you use, nor what history you use; and these are very powerful facts.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:44 am

The bible shifted some gears in my mind, the most informative of which has been the real scope of salvation; I never knew that it included all of humanity, with nobody to be left out for any reason. This is stunning good news!

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:57 pm

Nothing can eliminate the arua of God, nothing can drown out his reality.

God himself will introduce himself to humanity, with Jesus responding to the sound of the trump.

Match the comming events to biblical prophecy and watch live the realness of God.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:25 pm

In the comming days I wanted to get into what makes the bible relevant today!

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:16 am

Why is the bible still relevant today? I mean why is it still a worlds best selling book for over 400 years running? Why do more people steal the bible more than any other book in the world? Why is this book so different?

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:23 pm

The book is different from any other book on earth, " Because", it was inspired by forces that are not of this earth. And absolutely no other book has that resume. Its academic; the book will be constantly relevant , has been constantly relevant, inspite of the human tampering, because the spirit world Produced it.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:55 am

It is literally impossible to claim the bible is outdated or illrelevant, its standards and advice and knowledge are all constantly current. It was the first book ever written that has been like that; ageless and powerful, both characteristic of God.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:34 am

The bible is archaeological, historical, scientific, dynamic, frightening, inspiring, engulfing, instructing, its just a for real book.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:39 am

Why is the bible the worlds most shoplifted book? Ask yourself that question. Why would people steal the bible so much?

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:09 am

They steal bibles because they desperately want one for " Good Reasons."

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:30 am

You must bear in mind that perhaps 75 % of the bibles in the world are " Tainted." Diluted in various places with the evil concept of eternal hell torture and sprinkled with deception added by men.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:43 am

What's the best "Mickey's Bible" to own?

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:50 am

Ahso!;1421301 wrote: What's the best "Mickey's Bible" to own?

You contribute trash to the thread because you have nothing of value to contribute. You have made an error in your channel, this thread is not the comic channel.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:00 am

Let's try it this way. If I wanted to go out and buy a bible, which version would you recommend I purchase?

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:04 am

Ahso!;1421311 wrote: Let's try it this way. If I wanted to go out and buy a bible, which version would you recommend I purchase?

I don't care what you do. I don't care what you buy. Why would an Atheist even need such a recomendation?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:33 am

Mickiel;1421315 wrote: I don't care what you do. I don't care what you buy. Why would an Atheist even need such a recomendation?You mean to tell me that when I finally give into God's will, repent and turn myself over to him you don't want me to have the correct bible to read? How do you think God feels about that attitude? Aren't you supposed to be there for me? Perhaps you'd prefer you become my personal spiritual teacher rather than read a bible?

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:44 am

Ahso!;1421339 wrote: You mean to tell me that when I finally give into God's will, repent and turn myself over to him you don't want me to have the correct bible to read? How do you think God feels about that attitude? Aren't you supposed to be there for me? Perhaps you'd prefer you become my personal spiritual teacher rather than read a bible?

There will be no such thing as you " Giving in to God", when the time comes, you won't have a choice. And again, I don't care what you read, and I have absolutely no desire what soever to teach you anything. I am not supposed to be there for you, I don't even know you. I am not even there for most people that I know. When God wants to prick open a human mind, no bible will even be needed.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:02 am

Mickiel;1421352 wrote: There will be no such thing as you " Giving in to God", when the time comes, you won't have a choice. And again, I don't care what you read, and I have absolutely no desire what soever to teach you anything. I am not supposed to be there for you, I don't even know you. I am not even there for most people that I know. When God wants to prick open a human mind, no bible will even be needed.Every word in the "true" bible will be etched in my mind? Is that what you're saying?

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:05 am

Ahso!;1421370 wrote: Every word in the "true" bible will be etched in my mind? Is that what you're saying?

Thats what your saying. I have not said that.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:15 am

Mickiel;1421375 wrote: Thats what your saying. I have not said that.Okay. So let's say that someone stumbles upon this thread after you and I are gone and searches it for the proper bible to read, what's your advice?

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:16 pm

Ahso!;1421380 wrote: Okay. So let's say that someone stumbles upon this thread after you and I are gone and searches it for the proper bible to read, what's your advice?

To learn to think for themselves and find the one they can understand, and stop looking for advice.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:43 pm

Ahso!;1421380 wrote: Okay. So let's say that someone stumbles upon this thread after you and I are gone and searches it for the proper bible to read, what's your advice?

There are so many versions of the bible out there, I doubt it can be counted. Perhaps more than half of them are not as accurate as most think. Given this kind of senerio, the only proper answer to finding the right one, is that God himself gives you the proper version in you're heart, in your conscious mind, then one could discern the truth no matter what version you have in your hands.

There is so much deception out there, so much man made intrepretation that is in error; we cannot even hope to hold a correct view unless God intervenes in the persons consciousness and plants the truth there; puts the filter there;

we just need God's help, that's all to it.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:35 am

One would think that a book over 4,000 years old would just not be relevant in today's society, but man does the bible trounce that notion. But why? Why is the bible so continual and so powerful? Well its the message; the principals; the God it reveals. The history of that God is the most information that we have on him, and that is another reason this incredible book has never faded.

In fact, its importance is really increasing.

freethinkingthuthseeker · Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:10 pm

greetings brother , why do you say most bibles are corrupt? Have you compared them with the Qumran cave scrolls? Do you think God cannot protect the integrity of his word? Yes I have been away from this forum a long time but I am back now

Mickiel;1428672 wrote: There are so many versions of the bible out there, I doubt it can be counted. Perhaps more than half of them are not as accurate as most think. Given this kind of senerio, the only proper answer to finding the right one, is that God himself gives you the proper version in you're heart, in your conscious mind, then one could discern the truth no matter what version you have in your hands.

There is so much deception out there, so much man made intrepretation that is in error; we cannot even hope to hold a correct view unless God intervenes in the persons consciousness and plants the truth there; puts the filter there;

we just need God's help, that's all to it.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:39 am

freethinkingthuthseeker;1429284 wrote: greetings brother , why do you say most bibles are corrupt? Have you compared them with the Qumran cave scrolls? Do you think God cannot protect the integrity of his word? Yes I have been away from this forum a long time but I am back now

I think any bible that has eternal hell suffering in it is corrupt. Welcome back.

freethinkingthuthseeker · Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:16 am

Mickiel;1429289 wrote: I think any bible that has eternal hell suffering in it is corrupt. Welcome back.

My understanding is only 1000 years and then the second death and what version/s do not have this in them?

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:43 am

freethinkingthuthseeker;1429320 wrote: My understanding is only 1000 years and then the second death and what version/s do not have this in them?

My understanding is that damnation shouldnot be in a bible; no humans destiny should be eternal death. The second death is simply the death of the first death, it has nothing to do with humans; its the death of death, there will be no more death.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:49 am

Reality is what it is, and the reality is, we just have all kinds of bibles and many of them have all kinds of deception in them. If you think deception has not even crept into the bible, you are deceived already. The Vatican did most of the changes in the bible, they revised it at most of these councils; First council of Nicaea 325

First council of Constantinople 381

Council of Ephesus 431

Second council of Ephesus 449

Council of Chalcedon 451

Second council of Constantinople 553

3rd council of Constantinople 681

Quinisext of Constantinople 681

Council in Trullo 692

2nd council of Nicaea 787

1st council of Lateran 1123

4th council of Lateran 1215

2nd council of Lyon 1274

1st council of the Vatican 1870

Some of these eunemical councils defintely made changes in the bible, though they never will admit to it; they made their own translations. Some historians even say that King Henry V111 made changes so he could divorce his wife.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:12 am

God could have had the bible be perfect, but he did not want that. To show you the power of deception, many believers in God are just mentally unable to accept the bible is not perfect, and they give perfection to what is not perfect; and then give imperfection to God's perfect plan of salvation; God has devised a way to perfectly save all of humanity, but religion has thrown an imperfect wrench in that plan.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:30 am

Why should God strive for perfection in the flesh, he has already achieved that in Jesus, and I don't think he is after that in any one else; I think his ultimate goal is to eventually dispose of the flesh, all flesh, and go with just a Spirit world. This is why the bible did not have to be perfect or flawless, it is not for a perfect people. Some people are trying to protect the bible in their own manner, thinking it must be given a flawless arua in order to be Holy; the book itself is not Holy, the pages are not Holy, the binders that hold it together are not Holy, the God it speaks of is Holy and Perfect.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:36 am

The bible is a mixture of the witness of God and the witness of men. 1 John 5:9 " If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater." But the bible is a mixture of the two, which is why it can never be perfect. Plus, it was translated by men, revised by men and printed by men. And all of those methods are faulty.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:40 am

No book can be compared to the bible and its historical relevance and stunning influence on humanity; none can even come close; its in a class all by itself.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:33 am

There has never been a delete button that has worked on the bible; inspite of the faults and translation errors, the book remains.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:33 pm

I wonder why the bible is the most shoplifted book in the world; strange isn't it; a book that teaches you should not steal, gets stolen more than any other;

go figure!

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:02 am

There are many ways to steal the bible, certain Atheist here do it every chance they get. They hate hearing from the bible, totally disrespect it. So when ever they can, they try to " Take away from it." Steal its meaning; steal its power; steal away its true history in humanity.

Stealing history is similar to grave diggers; you rob whats there, so it can no longer be there.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:40 am

Mickiel;1433805 wrote: There are many ways to steal the bible, certain Atheist here do it every chance they get. They hate hearing from the bible, totally disrespect it. So when ever they can, they try to " Take away from it." Steal its meaning; steal its power; steal away its true history in humanity.

Stealing history is similar to grave diggers; you rob whats there, so it can no longer be there.

They try and steal the meaning of the bible, by using the lameness of religion as a way to degrade the bible. Religion is lame, but the bible is not.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:34 pm

The bible has long been the worlds most read book; for over 400 years running, it has either been the worlds best seller, or among the top 3 best sellers.

You wonder what are the other best sellers and most read books are that compete with the bible;

Harry Potter

Lord of the Rings

Gone with the Wind

Quotations from Mao Tse-Tung

Think and grow rich

Direy of Anne Frank

The Alchemist

EXCUSE me; do you see what is competing with the bible? Do you see what people are reading?

Do you know what the number one most read books in America is by catagory? Romance! Books on Romance?

Now can you begin to see why the bible has had no competition for so long?

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:25 am

Mickiel;1433869 wrote: The bible has long been the worlds most read book; for over 400 years running, it has either been the worlds best seller, or among the top 3 best sellers.

You wonder what are the other best sellers and most read books are that compete with the bible;

Harry Potter

Lord of the Rings

Gone with the Wind

Quotations from Mao Tse-Tung

Think and grow rich

Direy of Anne Frank

The Alchemist

EXCUSE me; do you see what is competing with the bible? Do you see what people are reading?

Do you know what the number one most read books in America is by catagory? Romance! Books on Romance?

Now can you begin to see why the bible has had no competition for so long?

The interest of humanity is obviously non fiction; imaginary worlds within worlds; our imaginations are our consciousness extended; and just look at our true interests.

I express a daily interest in God here, and certain people are tired of that and requesting that I talk about somethingelse? Something like what? Harry Potter, Gone with the wind, music, art, think and grow rich; how about quotations from Mao Tse-Tung? Anything but God; yet in my mind, nothing can be more important than God!

Oh what a difference!

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:31 am

There are 50 bibles sold every minute! Can you get to that? Every 60 seconds there is almost a bible sold somewhere in the world for each passing second! And this is continual; every hour, every day, every week, every month, every year; there IS no other book in the world which gets even close to this, ( and no book on Atheism is even on the charts). A stunning stat, the endurance of the bible is " Other Worldly:", its popularity is overtly common, its MESSAGE has been accepted for ages; it literally paces the world!

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:41 pm

The bible was the first book printed by Johannes Gutenberg, who invented the press in 1454.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:30 am

More and more bibles are completely omitting the word " Hell". Because the Christian concept of eternal hell suffering is perverted.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:17 am

All books don't have the character of the bible; you have to look close at them. In example, it is said that Mark Twain uses the slur that degrades black people, ( starting with the N word), 213 times in Hulkeberry Finn.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:10 am

The bible has an interesting track record; 1,400 BC the 10 were delivered to Moses

500 BC Completion of all original Hebrew manuscripts 39 books of the OT

200 BC completion of Septuagint Greek manuscripts 39 OT 14 Apocrypha books

1st century AD completion of all original Greek manuscripts

315 AD Athenasius identifies the 27 books

382 AD Jeromes Latin Vulgate contains all 80 books 39 OT 14 Apocrypha 27 NT

500AD Scriptures translated in over 50 languages

600 AD Latin was the only allowed language

995 AD Anglo Saxon introduces early english translation

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:48 am

Mickiel;1434242 wrote: The bible has an interesting track record; 1,400 BC the 10 were delivered to Moses

500 BC Completion of all original Hebrew manuscripts 39 books of the OT

200 BC completion of Septuagint Greek manuscripts 39 OT 14 Apocrypha books

1st century AD completion of all original Greek manuscripts

315 AD Athenasius identifies the 27 books

382 AD Jeromes Latin Vulgate contains all 80 books 39 OT 14 Apocrypha 27 NT

500AD Scriptures translated in over 50 languages

600 AD Latin was the only allowed language

995 AD Anglo Saxon introduces early english translation

And somewhere along this unique history, the insane doctrine of eternal hell punishing got suckered into the bible. When they translated the bible into Latin, THAT is when satan took his advantage to even influence the word of God itself.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:47 am

The bible is a mixture of historical fact, fiction, literature and poetry; the doctrine of eternal hell punishing is the fiction.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:13 pm

The bible is a book of books, and I think one day humanity will discover that it is THE book!

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:44 pm

Mickiel;1434319 wrote: The bible is a book of books, and I think one day humanity will discover that it is THE book!

The Book of Ages for sure; the main squezze; the rock of Ages, the solid link.