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sunny104;1003780 wrote: ....AND Texas! No one is taking over Texas! :p

Accountable;1004536 wrote:


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For what it's worth (less than the paper this isn't written on) I think Oscar & Liamree both said offensive things without meaning to, and took offence when it wasn't meant. Shoot me if I'm wrong. Anyway, I think you two ladies'll get along great as soon as the dust from the first impression settles. :-6

Accountable;1004549 wrote: For what it's worth (less than the paper this isn't written on) I think Oscar & Liamree both said offensive things without meaning to, and took offence when it wasn't meant. Shoot me if I'm wrong. Anyway, I think you two ladies'll get along great as soon as the dust from the first impression settles. :-6


Done already The private message page. But your right, we are all ready getting on swell. You got paper out there?

oscar;1004570 wrote: Done already The private message page. But your right, we are all ready getting on swell. You got paper out there?
No, but if I did you can bet I'd write it down. :wah:

oscar;1004372 wrote: I lose my manners when i see a post claiming that your fellow countrymen are shallow enough to vote Black.

You have no doubt posted it to raise a debate. That's the whole idea of a forum is it not, to raise debate?

I was defending your fellow countrymen as i have on many previous posts, even against MY fellow countrymen at times.

That's one thing about us BRITS. Attack is the best form of defence. Incidentally, that's why Britain will go to war with Iran without the blink of an eye. They threatened to nuke Israel.

Us BRITS don't like our ally's being threatened.

When you get to know me, because i am a BRIT, i never surrender.

I am gracious enough for leniancy, i excused your time keeping in the last war.

I can excuse anything, so i accept your apology.

Truce?? Let's start again shall we?

And jumpin Jack Flash is a gas gas gas. :-6


Oscar,

I did not say Americans were that shallow...I was commenting on an announcer who said Americans were voting on race...again, I will tell you you've misread my comment.

Do I know the world is connected? Yes of course I do! Do I know our voting affects the world, yes. Am I a [moderator intervention: intolerable slur removed]? (How that is less offensive than Brit I'll never know) Maybe. But I am able to say I am sorry, even if my offense was unintentional...did I miss yours?

Lisamree;1004590 wrote: Oscar,

I did not say Americans were that shallow...I was commenting on an announcer who said Americans were voting on race...again, I will tell you you've misread my comment.

Do I know the world is connected? Yes of course I do! Do I know our voting affects the world, yes. Am I a [moderator intervention: intolerable slur removed]? (How that is less offensive than Brit I'll never know) Maybe. But I am able to say I am sorry, even if my offense was unintentional...did I miss yours?


My offense was unintentional. So if you missed it, then i apologise if i offended you.

The word [moderator intervention: intolerable slur removed] is something we usually reserve for our own idiot politicians.

Trouble is, we've had to use it a heck of alot over the years so it's probably habit.

It's better than bollocks which is a word to describe what comes out of our politicians mouths.

Do you have to hand the Announcer who made the comment that Americans were voting on race? I think it's an insult to Americans everywhere. Even though, if i were an American, i would not be voting Obama, in my book, it's a slur on him also to suggest that all he has to offer is his colour. Don't you agree?

Hoss

Don't make me step in and add more Hormones to this....:wah:

Patsy

oscar;1004599 wrote: My offense was unintentional. So if you missed it, then i apologise if i offended you.

The word [moderator intervention: intolerable slur removed] is something we usually reserve for our own idiot politicians.

Trouble is, we've had to use it a heck of alot over the years so it's probably habit.

It's better than bollocks which is a word to describe what comes out of our politicians mouths.

Do you have to hand the Announcer who made the comment that Americans were voting on race? I think it's an insult to Americans everywhere. Even though, if i were an American, i would not be voting Obama, in my book, it's a slur on him also to suggest that all he has to offer is his colour. Don't you agree?


Yes Ma'am,

I agree completely! It is an insult to every American to imply that we care nothing for issues, that we would put someone into office based on how they look. Which is exactly what I was originally trying to say.

Thanks Oscar!

It might be a good thing to keep in mind that "[moderator intervention: intolerable slur removed]" in the UK evidently holds a different meaning than in the US. Here it means vagina. You can understand some members' concern over this word being used, I'm sure. Thanks.

Hoss;1004645 wrote: Great quote!

I for one am willing to stand up and fight and i don't mean with weapon in hand, I mean I'm willing to stand up and keep doing whats right and follow the constitution and not the people that are taking our country down.


So I take it you won't be voting for the right wing politics that got you in to this mess in the first place. :sneaky:

posted by red glitter

It might be a good thing to keep in mind that "[moderator intervention: intolerable slur removed]" in the UK evidently holds a different meaning than in the US. Here it means vagina. You can understand some members' concern over this word being used, I'm sure. Thanks.




What was the word? What was the word|? I missed it. Never mind-word to the wise never tell a British girl she has a nice fanny. Unless she's familiar with american colloquialism she's likely to belt you one.

Oscar is Daily Mail reader. I know americans won't understand that but UK posters on finding that out will nod sagely and make allowances.

posted by oscar

We're back to normal guys.

MR Oscar has just come in and heavilly sedated MRS Oscar




Poor Mr Oscar:yh_rotfl (sorry, coudn't resist)

Patsy Warnick;1004647 wrote: Hoss

Don't make me step in and add more Hormones to this....:wah:

Patsy wants some help my hormones are pretty out of wack:mad:

gmc;1004821 wrote: So I take it you won't be voting for the right wing politics that got you in to this mess in the first place. :sneaky:

posted by red glitter



What was the word? What was the word|? I missed it. Never mind-word to the wise never tell a British girl she has a nice fanny. Unless she's familiar with american colloquialism she's likely to belt you one.

Oscar is Daily Mail reader. I know americans won't understand that but UK posters on finding that out will nod sagely and make allowances.

posted by oscar



Poor Mr Oscar:yh_rotfl (sorry, coudn't resist)


Watch it fellow country man :sneaky:

I will e mail the word privately.

Spot will correct me if i'm wrong but the when i was at school, it refered to a fish.

Mr Oscar is in hiding after failing to buy Mrs Oscar's Daily Mail today. How can i report accuately gmc??

Fellow Americans, whilst on the subject, i have to share this with you.

We get some horrendous British t.v. progs here. Hearing uncontrollable laughter coming from my lounge a few days ago, i went out to see what was killing Mr Oscar.

Sometimes our t.v. prog researchers just don't do their jobs properly nor their research into different meanings of words between British and America. Hence the sometimes hostility.

This one was priceless. It was a prog about British famous celebritys finding themselves mugged.

They named the show "Celebrity SNATCH" Now that was funny. :wah::wah::wah:

Lisamree;1004746 wrote: Yes Ma'am,

I agree completely! It is an insult to every American to imply that we care nothing for issues, that we would put someone into office based on how they look. Which is exactly what I was originally trying to say.

Thanks Oscar!


No prob good buddy.

And Jumpin Jack Flash is a Gas Gas Gas

I complianed to Mr Oscar that he never takes me out lately.

He said, "Where do you want to go?"

I said "Some-where expensive would be nice".

He took me to the Petrol (Gas) station :wah:

Ok Vice debate is tonight. Any betting souls out there on who will win?? Or does it really matter??

southern yankee;1005803 wrote: Ok Vice debate is tonight. Any betting souls out there on who will win?? Or does it really matter??


We will be watching on sky, it'll be interesting certainly. Especially to see if i recognise any of Biden's quotes. :sneaky:

We have to remember that if anything Happens to Obama or McCain goes to that old folks home in the sky, the VP's may be running the country.

Let's see what happens. Palin gives great speeches. Biden gives great speeches but shame they usually belong to some-one else.

Ian;1005860 wrote: Biden may get sick, Hillary would replace him..

Does anyone think this would increase the chances of Obama?

would it change voters opinions? Maybe so

Ian;1005860 wrote: Biden may get sick, Hillary would replace him..

Does anyone think this would increase the chances of Obama?

would it change voters opinions?


If she has the same policies as Obama -- No

If it's beacuse she's a woman and you think women would give Obama the vote to have Clinton as VP --- Don't get me started.

We're watching Sky to get the VP debate but we're just falling about laughing over Sir Ian Blair instead.

oscar;1005900 wrote: If she has the same policies as Obama -- No

If it's beacuse she's a woman and you think women would give Obama the vote to have Clinton as VP --- Don't get me started.

We're watching Sky to get the VP debate but we're just falling about laughing over Sir Ian Blair instead.i think you are right. But I wanted her soooo bad. was sooo disappointed.

southern yankee;1005955 wrote: i think you are right. But I wanted her soooo bad. was sooo disappointed.


I admire her tenacity, loyalty, strength, determination and resolve.

We're getting the full debate at 02.00 in the morning. Another late night.

Early shots say Palin will falter and Biden will come across as patronising. McCain needs her to come through tonight. Obama needs Biden to get tough.

[quote=Hoss;1005115]I think my dad settled on Ron Paul, or Bob Barr. I can't remember where he was last item I asked him.
:yh_rotfl You're kidding! After we went round and round and he kept insisting that this was too important to vote for a third party, now he's agreeing with me??!? :driving:Classic!



eta: I would like to discuss your comment about marriage, but in a different thread.

1st of all, I think Palin is doing a great job during this debate.

She's very direct - looks into the camera & at Biden, getting back to facts.

she's tough. good speaker.

2nd- today I had a Garage Sale - a older man asking @ books

I'm going thru books, run across some book about/by McCain.

I said, here - your going to vote for McCain - read about him..

The man said, that's right, I'm not stupid.

I thought, wow, fiesty, strong, I knew this, that's why I said my statement.

I said, do you want the book? he: NO, I know all I need to know. I said:

you won't find it in that book anyway..

surprising what is really said on the streets..

Patsy

Hoss

you stated : your voting the same way your Dad's voting..

I'm sure you just posted your Dad is voting for Ron Paul..?

Did he tell you that.? so your for Ron Paul? or McCain?

or make your decision -

Patsy

I have to be honest here. I think Biden Kicked assed and I was wanting Palin to get the upper hand, ( being a lifelong Rep.) I honestly would vote for Biden over the rest of the three after this debate. Palin did fine but Biden out did her in my opinion.

Hoss;1006239 wrote: I'm voting like my dad in that I’m voting out all incumbents for the other positions in this election. But President Bush is out already no matter what so that leaves a choice for the presidency. His choice at my last recollection is Ron Paul or Bob Barr. He wanted John McCain; I'm not sure why he started looking so seriously at the other candidates. But it looks like Accountable may have changed his mind.



Sorry I did not make that very clear.
Hoss, I am the same as acc. and your dad. I am getting sick and tired of the same old crap. Afetr tonights debate if I had to chose between the two I would chose Biden, can't say I would chose Obama though. Must be the toughest choice I have ever seen and I have voted for 30 yrs now. I do still hold out for voting for the others i.e. ACC's option.

Just watched the debate. IF. Biden was running for Pres. i would with NO QUESTION vote for him. So it will be for me SADLY A vote against Obama. But not a McCain lover. SOOO sad now.Just SOOOOO confused. But Biden moped the floor with The MIDDLE CLASS SOCKER MOM> Middle class PLEASE!!!!!!:-5:-5:mad::mad:

Hoss;1006250 wrote: I had a hard time following the he said-she said of the who voted for what issues, but I think she was dazzling, genuine, and made sure she said John McCain a whole lot more than Barack Obama was mentioned. It was all about McCain for her, she did great!



The 'there you go joe' line was perfect. Loved it.



Joe Biden needs to tone down the teeth; he must brush with some industrial strength toothpaste!



Where I think he looses credibility is where he praised John McCain in the past and downed Barack Obama, and now suddenly he’s the VP and for all of Obama's old programs? I don't get that.



Palin didn’t directly answer back all of Biden’s claims, I wish she had bulldogged him some on those, but it looked like the moderator moved things on. Same thing on Biden’s side, he didn’t get a chance to answer all of them back either.



Did you notice they left Palin’s mic on at the end, but quickly shut Biden’s off? Nice try to grab a under the breath sound bite!



That’s my first impression. We’ll see how I feel after the voting record truth comes out.



I think my dads going to have a hard time voting for Ron Paul, since my dad supports the war in Iraq. I’m not sure about Bob Barr. My dad was for McCain, but wasn’t certain about his stance on war if or when it was necessary. But he trusted McCain’s judgment more than anyone else on the subject.


Trust me, I pointed out Biden's chicklets to my own 18 yr old minutes into the debate.:wah:

In fact they became a joke in my household.



Uh oh it's chicklets turn.:wah:

I thought Palin did an awesome job. She was real. Biden, that man I felt at times didn't know if he was coming or going. There's already been reports on tv about him misrepresenting himself on who voted for what. I also found it funny that Palin kept pointing out how Biden was against Obama and for McCain, on issues, before he was on the ticket with Obama.

Can we just start over, maybe a Sarah/Hillary ticket?????:D Republican and Democrat, just split the difference.

Hoss;1006356 wrote: I think some here would say in either Obama or McCain we do have both the dems and repubs all rolled into one.



Am I right Accountable?
I would say that neither of them will be able to do anything without congress and senate approval. They can spout whatever they want but without the right votes they do nothing while in office.

I'd say PALIN Hands down..

I have to give more credit to the underdog - I have toooooooo.

She looked directly into the camera & to Biden

that's not easy - alot of pressure of the female unknown.. I have to go for the underdog cause she did a great job. Very direct.

Biden smiled & then got irritated... body language.. gotch ya..

Palin didn't falter - very much controlled for a Vice candidate, under alot of pressure to PERFORM..

BIDEN - has had years of experience - showed nothing exceptional and this was his time to shine.. he did't rise to the occasion..

he took his past experience for granite - didn't express enough.

interesting

I think this Debate - was much better than the Pres. Candidates Debate..

Twitters

I asked to start all over @ 6 weeks ago..

Patsy

Hoss;1006356 wrote: I think some here would say in either Obama or McCain we do have both the dems and repubs all rolled into one.



Am I right Accountable?
I think in either Obama or McCain we have both McCain & Obama all rolled into one.


They agree that fed gov't hasn't screwed up education enough and has to try harder.

They agree that two war fronts don't spill enough patriot blood and we need to dump some more in Darfur.

They agree that the only responsiblility the gov't can claim for the current economic "crisis" is that they didn't interfere enough (I heard a great phrase today: privatized profits with nationalized accountability).

They agree that the best fix markets is more gov't interference, not less.

They agree that gov't should give lip service to homosexual couples' legal difficulties, but an eight-letter word (marriage) is more important than some citizens' unalienable rights (pursuit of happiness).

Pick any major and most minor issues; we hear both discussing minor differences in HOW federal gov't should be in charge of it, but never a discussion about IF they should even be involved.

I think both sides of the monopolistic party have their president & vp candidates backward. I would feel more comfortable (a little) if it were a Biden vs Palin race. Doesn't matter, though. Unless more voters can be pried away from the false choice of "lesser of two evils" we citizens lose, lose big, and will continue to lose until we've lost it all.

[quote=Accountable;1006478] I would feel more comfortable (a little) if it were a Biden vs Palin race.



That was my general feeling.



[QUOTE]

Doesn't matter, though. Unless more voters can be pried away from the false choice of "lesser of two evils" we citizens lose, lose big, and will continue to lose until we've lost it all.



:wah:



I just dont know how to reply to you sometimes. I love you (that has nothing to do with me having dreams about you) but Im beginning to think your less a purist and more of an extremist. Youre rigid buddy, cant you bend a little ?

Nothing stays the same forever.

The world is much bigger than it was 250 yrs ago.

Your going to be a cranky old fart ! :-4

I watched the whole debate. Both had so much to say on different issue's

The one that stood out for me was Palin saying Obama wants to offer the white flag of Surrender to Irag. In this country ----- Nooooo way Obama!!

Palin said -- Terror is in Iraq -- Don't we know it

Iran is dangerous ---- Don't we know it

Isreael is in jeopardy --- Don't we know it

Israel could be wiped off the face of the earth by Pakistan-- (Sorry Bryn, what was that you were saying about no proof of Pakistan being involved in terror??)

Palin said --- We can not allow Pakistan to obtain more nucleur arsenal

Thank God for Palin.

Biden was good though, i have to give him that. He had some good issue's on the finance crisis.

McCain will go ahead in the polls due to palin's debate.

[QUOTE=Nomad;1006515][quote=Accountable;1006478] I would feel more comfortable (a little) if it were a Biden vs Palin race.



That was my general feeling.





Doesn't matter, though. Unless more voters can be pried away from the false choice of "lesser of two evils" we citizens lose, lose big, and will continue to lose until we've lost it all.



:wah:



I just dont know how to reply to you sometimes. I love you (that has nothing to do with me having dreams about you) but Im beginning to think your less a purist and more of an extremist. Youre rigid buddy, cant you bend a little ?

Nothing stays the same forever.

The world is much bigger than it was 250 yrs ago.

Your going to be a cranky old fart ! :-4


he's too smiley to be a cranky old fart! :-4 Now come down here and give him a hug! unless you've already had your way with him in your dream last might.....:sneaky: :wah:

posted by oscar

Israel could be wiped off the face of the earth by Pakistan-- (Sorry Bryn, what was that you were saying about no proof of Pakistan being involved in terror??)


Eh Pakistan is supposed to be an ally-although if americans keep attacking over their borders they might change their minds. Certainlt the locals on the border might decide to join with the Taliban. In case you are unaware it is likely to be british troops that will bear the brunt of that.

Palin said --- We can not allow Pakistan to obtain more nucleur arsenal


They don't need any more they already have them and that nice Mr Bush gave them F16's so they can take out the Indian Air force. Good call that, give weapons to an unstable potentially islamic fundamentalist country and **** off the neighbouring democracy that is far more likely to be on the receiving end of Pakistani nuclear missiles that Israel will ever be.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5131566.stm

http://www.countercurrents.org/ipk-bidwai040405.htm

Nice going george as if the region wasn't any more unstable.

If Palin did actually say that We can not allow Pakistan to obtain more nucleur arsena she's an idiot. America is in deep **** if she gets elected.

You have got to stop reading the Daily Mail.