The observation and asides thread

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:30 am

magentaflame;1513618 wrote: Sorry....cant let this go....coffee.....sit down whilst drinking it!

Simple request of an establishment that designs itself on this concept.

You will OK when the caffeine kicks in.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:06 pm

I didnt. And i wasnt

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:14 pm

Question........why are poorer people being slugged more money (AUS $36) for taxes in London?

In my experience poorer people are the ones who buy the older cheaper cars with higher emissions..... why are they being targeted?

This tax will also hit small business who have older smaller fleets of vehicles.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:15 pm

Question........why are poorer people being slugged more money (AUS $36) for taxes in London?

In my experience poorer people are the ones who buy the older cheaper cars with higher emissions..... why are they being targeted?

This tax will also hit small business who have older smaller fleets of vehicles.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:32 pm

We heard you the first time.

We heard you the first time.

Hey.......there is an echo in here.....in here......in here.

It is an environmental measure. All vehicles entering inner London must pay a congestion charge to combat pollution, they are just tightening the screws further, and it just happens the poorer motorist will pay.

Wandrin · Post by **Wandrin** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:48 pm

magentaflame;1513617 wrote: Some observations of the day....

4 1/2 hpur horror ride on a vline bus.

Couple of doors down from where im supposed to be i walk into ...."a coffee house".... in flinders lane melbourne.

For some reason the person who served me was 'surprised' that i wanted a flat white in house.....its a coffee house! It has tables and chairs!

So! To make me feel uncomfortable ive been seated riggt next to an open door of the kitchen and the corrider to the restrooms.

Well first the abomination of young an d jacksons now this.

Maybe they were confused if you didn't prominently display a laptop computer. Around here, about 2/3s of the tables are taken up by folks sipping their coffee while using the WiFi on their laptops.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:06 pm

It was just the "really?"... im standing there looking around thinking....ummm and?.

Caught up with my youngest and he said..."maybe its because you were by yourself".... so i have to be with someone now?

I think youre right Wandrin. I took out my phone and posted here so i didnt look out of place....blended right in.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:09 pm

Bruv;1513642 wrote: We heard you the first time.

We heard you the first time.

Hey.......there is an echo in here.....in here......in here.

It is an environmental measure. All vehicles entering inner London must pay a congestion charge to combat pollution, they are just tightening the screws further, and it just happens the poorer motorist will pay.

Yeah sorry about that. Ive done it a few times. Its the data thingy dropping in and out. It sometimes looks as if its dropped out just before i post, so ehen it comes up again i quickly press 'post' again.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:28 pm

magentaflame;1513618 wrote: Sorry....cant let this go....coffee.....sit down whilst drinking it!

Simple request of an establishment that designs itself on this concept.

What kind of coffee? That's important you know.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:08 pm

ISIS are **** heads....we all know that, but to threaten individual children is over the top.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:58 pm

No NRA trolls out lately. Has anyone else taken note of that? I'll bet the NRA has ordered, I mean advised, their trolls to stay away from any possibility of getting drawn into discussions regarding guns and the most recent mass shooting while other events can dominate the news.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:34 pm

There's an Interventionist policy and a non Interventionist policy. Either has its merits. What the Western world has done in the last 25 years is flip flop between the two and end up with something not far from the worst of both.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:18 pm

If youre thinking of coming to Australia and climbing Uluru? Well you cant. No one is allowed to anymore.

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:47 pm

magentaflame;1513949 wrote: If youre thinking of coming to Australia and climbing Uluru? Well you cant. No one is allowed to anymore.

I saw that. It was never high on my to-do list, so no biggie.

A lot of countries are beginning to clamp down on recreational activities that may permanently damage "natural wonders"

A good thing, in my book. too many people around kinda spoils the mood.

Post by **spot** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:00 pm

magentaflame;1513949 wrote: If youre thinking of coming to Australia and climbing Uluru? Well you cant. No one is allowed to anymore.

And a good thing too. I'd not want to see anyone climb Westminster Abbey for recreational reasons. If you want a hill to climb, go get your own.

Wandrin · Post by **Wandrin** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:04 pm

spot;1513952 wrote: And a good thing too. I'd not want to see anyone climb Westminster Abbey for recreational reasons. If you want a hill to climb, go get your own.

Or, there are plenty of mountains and hills around the world that are not overloaded. There are plenty of natural wonders to climb and admire without overloading them.

Post by **spot** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:17 pm

I think there are some sites which shouldn't have cameras pointed at them. This particular location should have a 50 mile exclusion zone for everyone not related to it.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:21 pm

I agree too. Im not sure about "natural wonder" or overloading etc. Australians have tended not to do it.for a long tim it seems to be tourists encouraged by overseas guides. Its a sacred site. And yes it has to be felt rather than seen or cli,mbed.

And its extremely dangerous .....nobody mentions how many people die.

Post by **spot** » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:16 am

We have a practically identical rock formation in England at Dawlish, through which Great Western Railways pushed a tunnel to open the only rail route into Cornwall.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:25 am

Ahso!;1513869 wrote: No NRA trolls out lately. Has anyone else taken note of that? I'll bet the NRA has ordered, I mean advised, their trolls to stay away from any possibility of getting drawn into discussions regarding guns and the most recent mass shooting while other events can dominate the news.

In the US cities where gun ownership is the highest, crime rates are the lowest. Criminals target those who can't defend theirselves.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:31 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1514011 wrote: In the US cities where gun ownership is the highest, crime rates are the lowest. Criminals target those who can't defend theirselves.According to Guns and Ammo, Nevada, home to the worst and latest mass shooting ranks rather favorably overall for you "liberal" gun law lovers.

22. Nevada

Once a year, Nevada becomes the home of America’s gun industry when the National Shooting Sports Foundation’s SHOT Show rolls into town. Nevada’s gun owners saw positive changes during 2015 with some major pro-gun victories taking place in the statehouse. Handgun registration is officially a thing of the past in Las Vegas, and Nevada’s CCW reciprocity got a boost with the passage of a bill signed by Gov. Brian Sandoval that expands reciprocity to 23 states. The state’s Castle Doctrine statute was also extended to include citizens’ vehicles. Nevada does issue permits to nonresidents. As the world’s most popular “machine gun tourism spot, Nevada does not restrict NFA items. The state has good self-defense laws and does not restrict black rifles or magazine capacity.

Best States for Gun Owners - Guns & Ammo

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:09 pm

Ahso!;1514034 wrote: According to Guns and Ammo, Nevada, home to the worst and latest mass shooting ranks rather favorably overall for you "liberal" gun law lovers.

Best States for Gun Owners - Guns & Ammo

All states should be pro gun. FACT: Most all of the mass shootings take place in gun free zones. Why? Because the criminals know that the people without guns won't be able to defend themselves.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:59 am

Yes, I can see why Australia is over flowing with massacres.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:03 am

But on a cheerier note . Countdown have been doing re runs every Sunday night 1 hour equals one year. Last week I had my 11th year flash before my eyes. It was scary. And I'd forgotten this particular gem by INXS in their early days. We won't be seeing 1974 though . ABC taped over that year. lol

Post by **spot** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:34 am

magentaflame;1514067 wrote: We won't be seeing 1974 though . ABC taped over that year. lolFrom what I remember of 1974 that may have been a wise choice, taping over it. I think I may have been living at the YMCA in Croydon for some of that year.

There's a dictionary example which sums that entire experience:1654 R. Vilvain Theoremata Theologica i. 25 'Tis nausity to serv forth twise sod Coleworts.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:27 am

Not to good for flatulence either

Post by **spot** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:32 am

Anyone who boils cabbage twice deserves all he gets.

John Aubrey's friend Anthony Wood said of Robert Vilvain that "his writings are ‘nothing but scraps, whimseys, and dotages of old age’". I would not like to have been aphorized by Anthony Wood.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:38 am

I'll have to look him up but Vilvain would have been too dead to mind...........oh to be an anglo saxon

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:42 am

He was a teacher of yours? I've read part of his russian revolution I think. (at school) for research on the czar

Post by **spot** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:39 am

No, we never met. Here's the start of his entry in the Dictionary of National Biography-Vilvain, Robert (bap. 1576, d. 1663), physician and philanthropist, was born in the parish of All Hallows, Goldsmith Street, Exeter, and baptized in its church on 17 March 1576. He was the son of Peter Vilvain (d. 1602), steward of Exeter in 1579, and his wife, Ann (d. 1616). Robert received his early education at Exeter and matriculated from Exeter College, Oxford, on 22 February 1594, aged eighteen. He graduated BA on 9 May 1597 and MA on 11 July 1600. On 30 June 1599 he was elected to a Devonian fellowship of his college, which he held until 30 June 1611.

Vilvain began to practise medicine about 1600, and on 20 June 1611 took the Oxford degrees of BM and DM. He was incorporated at Cambridge in 1608, and with these further degrees was reincorporated in 1612. From this date he practised with great success in his native city, where he spent the rest of his life. His wife, Ellenor, second daughter of Thomas Hinson of Tavistock, who married Anne, daughter of Sir William Spring of Pakenham, Suffolk, was buried at All Hallows, Exeter, on 7 December 1622. Their only child, Thomas, matriculated at Exeter College, Oxford, on 8 April 1636, aged sixteen, graduated BCL on 7 March 1642, and died unmarried on 20 May 1651. Ten epicedial distichs composed on his death are in his father's Enchiridium epigrammatum (1654), leaf 185.

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:44 am

xfrodobagginsx;1514056 wrote: All states should be pro gun. FACT: Most all of the mass shootings take place in gun free zones. Why? Because the criminals know that the people without guns won't be able to defend themselves.

Orlando, Las Vegas, Colorado Springs, and Thornton, CO are not Gun-free zones.

Pulse gunman's motive: Plenty of theories, but few answers - Orlando Sentinel

Las Vegas Gunman Was a Trump Supporter, Happy With President Because Stock Market Was Doing Well

Triple shooting makes for violent night in Colorado Springs | FOX31 Denver

Thornton Walmart shooting suspect quit job Wednesday at Frederick roofing company - Longmont Times-Call

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:22 am

Nor is Virginia (Virginia Tech shooting). Even Connecticut (Sandy Hook) is rather liberal with gun laws, though they've been tightening them up a bit since the elementary school shooting massacre.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:26 am

Frodo, do you believe the Sandy Hook shooting happened, or do you think it was staged?

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:38 am

And, of course, the "good guys with guns" notion will likely come up:

In Wal-Mart shooting, armed shoppers hinder police investigation

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:36 am

LarsMac;1514082 wrote: Orlando, Las Vegas, Colorado Springs, and Thornton, CO are not Gun-free zones.

Pulse gunman's motive: Plenty of theories, but few answers - Orlando Sentinel

Las Vegas Gunman Was a Trump Supporter, Happy With President Because Stock Market Was Doing Well

Triple shooting makes for violent night in Colorado Springs | FOX31 Denver

Thornton Walmart shooting suspect quit job Wednesday at Frederick roofing company - Longmont Times-Call

Stop confusing the topic with facts.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:52 am

LarsMac;1514089 wrote: And, of course, the "good guys with guns" notion will likely come up:

In Wal-Mart shooting, armed shoppers hinder police investigation

I believe this whole "good guy with a gun" came from a speech by Wayne LaPierre after the Sandy Hook shooting. It was a long speech and in context The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Would you rather have your 911 call bring a good guy with a gun from a mile away ... or a minute away? has nothing to do with the average person dealing with an armed bad guy. But hey, just like "hands up don't shoot" , it is just too good to pass up.

It is a real shame the Thornton, Colo cops sitting safely in front of tv screens felt so put out. Perhaps the local citizens can take a collection and toss them some crying towels.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:00 am

tude dog;1514108 wrote: I believe this whole "good guy with a gun" came from a speech by Wayne LaPierre after the Sandy Hook shooting. It was a long speech and in context The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Would you rather have your 911 call bring a good guy with a gun from a mile away ... or a minute away? has nothing to do with the average person dealing with an armed bad guy. But hey, just like "hands up don't shoot", it is just too good to pass up.Wasn't it you who said your gun is strictly for your own personal protection? Also, didn't you suggest that that was the most responsible and reasonable way to view gun carry laws? So that would still necessitate waiting for the response from a 911 call, would it not?

Post by **LarsMac** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:29 pm

tude dog;1514108 wrote: I believe this whole "good guy with a gun" came from a speech by Wayne LaPierre after the Sandy Hook shooting. It was a long speech and in context The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Would you rather have your 911 call bring a good guy with a gun from a mile away ... or a minute away? has nothing to do with the average person dealing with an armed bad guy. But hey, just like "hands up don't shoot" , it is just too good to pass up.

It is a real shame the Thornton, Colo cops sitting safely in front of tv screens felt so put out. Perhaps the local citizens can take a collection and toss them some crying towels.

The point was that the guy did his thing and then calmly walked out, and got in his car and drove away, before cops arrived, and all the good guys with guns were useless as boobs on a boar.

Then the cops had to watch video to figure out which of the guys with guns was the bad guy. Pulling out your gun when you hear gunshots may not be the smartest move. If you don't have a target, the gun ain't much use, and you could become one, yourself.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:23 pm

Ahso!;1514109 wrote: Wasn't it you who said your gun is strictly for your own personal protection? Also, didn't you suggest that that was the most responsible and reasonable way to view gun carry laws? So that would still necessitate waiting for the response from a 911 call, would it not?

You have to read the speech. In short, he is talking about people like the unarmed teachers at Sandy Hook. He is advocating having professionals at the ready.

I don't answer 911 calls.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:35 pm

tude dog;1514120 wrote: You have to read the speech. In short, he is talking about people like the unarmed teachers at Sandy Hook. He is advocating having professionals at the ready.I heard the remarks when he spewed them and also read them afterward. If I recall correctly we began to see reports of the so-called professional with guns at the ready doing some pretty stupid s#!t. In fact, we discussed it a length here I believe.

tude dog;1514120 wrote: I don't answer 911 calls.That's probably a good thing, though I have no idea what prompted such a bizarre remark.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:35 pm

LarsMac;1514117 wrote: The point was that the guy did his thing and then calmly walked out, and got in his car and drove away, before cops arrived, and all the good guys with guns were useless as boobs on a boar.

Appears to me they acted responsibly. I can imagine the criticism if someone had gone off half-cocked and did something truly stupid.

LarsMac;1514117 wrote: Then the cops had to watch video to figure out which of the guys with guns was the bad guy. Pulling out your gun when you hear gunshots may not be the smartest move. If you don't have a target, the gun ain't much use, and you could become one, yourself.

And so it may.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:00 pm

I'm willing to bet the church was full of good people, without a single gun among them.

Multiple people dead in South Texas church shooting, officials say

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:02 pm

tude dog;1514125 wrote: I'm willing to bet the church was full of good people, without a single gun among them.

Multiple people dead in South Texas church shooting, officials sayDepends on what kind of church it was. If it was a white congregation there were guns there. If it was a black congregation - probably not and your sentence would most likely be correct in its totality.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:03 pm

spot;1514080 wrote: No, we never met. Here's the start of his entry in the Dictionary of National Biography-Vilvain, Robert (bap. 1576, d. 1663), physician and philanthropist, was born in the parish of All Hallows, Goldsmith Street, Exeter, and baptized in its church on 17 March 1576. He was the son of Peter Vilvain (d. 1602), steward of Exeter in 1579, and his wife, Ann (d. 1616). Robert received his early education at Exeter and matriculated from Exeter College, Oxford, on 22 February 1594, aged eighteen. He graduated BA on 9 May 1597 and MA on 11 July 1600. On 30 June 1599 he was elected to a Devonian fellowship of his college, which he held until 30 June 1611.

Vilvain began to practise medicine about 1600, and on 20 June 1611 took the Oxford degrees of BM and DM. He was incorporated at Cambridge in 1608, and with these further degrees was reincorporated in 1612. From this date he practised with great success in his native city, where he spent the rest of his life. His wife, Ellenor, second daughter of Thomas Hinson of Tavistock, who married Anne, daughter of Sir William Spring of Pakenham, Suffolk, was buried at All Hallows, Exeter, on 7 December 1622. Their only child, Thomas, matriculated at Exeter College, Oxford, on 8 April 1636, aged sixteen, graduated BCL on 7 March 1642, and died unmarried on 20 May 1651. Ten epicedial distichs composed on his death are in his father's Enchiridium epigrammatum (1654), leaf 185.

Dangerous time to be in medicine. If he was successful as a doctor he couldn't have done much good considering the church was breathing down their necks. Most experimental and new advances in medicine was widely condemned by the church at that time

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:05 pm

tude dog;1514125 wrote: I'm willing to bet the church was full of good people, without a single gun among them.

Multiple people dead in South Texas church shooting, officials say

bloody hell not another one.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:06 pm

magentaflame;1514128 wrote: bloody hell not another one.Yup, and in that gun-free zone known as Texas.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:09 pm

Ahso!;1514130 wrote: Yup, and in that gun-free zone known as Texas.

why don't you guys just pack it in? As a country don't you understand it's like James town? You're suiciding as a nation!!!!

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:10 pm

Note the NRA tactic of reducing the gun-free zone down to the building.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:12 pm

magentaflame;1514132 wrote: why don't you guys just pack it in? As a country don't you understand it's like James town? You're suiciding as a nation!!!!

That's the goal - to reduce the population down to good guys with guns only.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:12 pm

I mean ...what are you afraid of if you just say no to all the guns?

Some nutter going around shooting everyone cause his guns are being taken? you've got that already!!!

an industry slowly killing you all being upset it can't kill you anymore? Tell em to get ****ed!!!

FFS!!!!

Brave America my arse!!!