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I had not seen this, nor heard of it, until today.



I promise to bump the clip once a year on each anniversary, to remind non-Americans what they actually think of America.

You can be very cruel.

spot;1504751 wrote: I had not seen this, nor heard of it, until today.



I promise to bump the clip once a year on each anniversary, to remind non-Americans what they actually think of America.


Oh dear god! Please tell me thats been cleverly super imposed!

Whats funny is analysts are saying Trumps policies are going to hurt most the people who voted for him . The demographic of voters. Its going to be a mess.

spot;1504751 wrote: I had not seen this, nor heard of it, until today.



I promise to bump the clip once a year on each anniversary, to remind non-Americans what they actually think of America.


The lyrics to the song in case anyone might be interested.

[Verse 1]

Cowardice, are you serious?

Apologies for freedom, I can't handle this!

When freedom rings, answer the call!

On your feet, stand up tall!

Freedom's on our shoulders, USA!

Enemies of freedom

Face the music, come on boys, take 'em down!

President Donald Trump knows how to make America great

Deal from strength or get crushed every time

[Chorus]

Over here, USA!

Over there, USA!

Freedom and liberty everywhere

Oh say can you see

It's not so easy

But we have to stand up tall and answer freedom's call

[Verse 2]

USA, USA!

USA, USA

We're the land of the free and the home of the brave, USA!

The stars and stripes are flying

Let's celebrate our freedom

Inspire proudly freedom to the world

Ameritude, USA!

American pride, USA!

It's attitude, it's who we are, stand up tall

We're the red, white and blue

Fiercely free, that's who!

Our colors don't run, no sir-e

[Chorus]

Over here, USA!

Over there, USA!

Freedom and liberty everywhere

Oh say can you see

It's not so easy

But we have to stand up tall and answer freedom's call


Also, some background about the song from the same source.

The song’s original lyrics were about senior U.S Army General George Patton, but it was rewritten by USA Freedom Kids manager Jeff Popick shortly after Trump announced his candidacy.

“While there are several candidates who could begin to turn around the Obama debacle, we think there may be no one better than President Donald Trump to answer ‘Freedom’s Call,’ Popick said in a November news release introducing the song.


USA�*Freedom Kids – Freedom's Call (The Official Donald Trump Jam) Lyrics | Genius Lyrics

The irony, of course, is that the song appears to praise Obama's foreign policies, and is, if Trump is to be believed, contrary to The Donald's.

Pretty fascism is still fascism althouigh as usual americans adopt a different definition from the rest of the world and include a dictator as the main criterion. Going to be interesting iof the checks and balances in the american constitution will work or whether a populist president will be able to rode roughshod over them. Trump is a bully and a braggart with a following that se him as the new messiah. Not my words I assure you.



The internet can be a depressing place.

posted by spot

Are you suggesting Hillary Clinton would have laid off slapping the rest of the world around and reined in her killers had she won the Presidency? As a display of faith on your part it might work, but as rational thinking it's mere unjustifiable optimism.




I understand where you are coming from and in the main I would probably agree with you but trump's best pal putin probably feels he had a free rein now to do what he wants in europe you can see why he wanted trump to win - follow the money or if you prefer the ex head of exxonmobil. He's a narcissistic bully and a braggart bad enough running his own company but in control of nuclear weapons?

As I watch the goings-on about my country, and read the comments from "friends" I once respected, I have a feeling of dread, not unlike those I felt some years ago in September, watching the towers burning, and then falling.

I spent much of that day sitting with my father while he waited to hear from doctors on the prognosis regarding spreading Cancer. I could see in his face the same sense of dread and fear that I felt.

My dad did not survive 2001, a few days ago marked the 15th year since his exit.

He never saw the aftermath of that day.

Today, Watching how we are changing as a nation, I envy him.

spot;1504751 wrote: I had not seen this, nor heard of it, until today.



I promise to bump the clip once a year on each anniversary, to remind non-Americans what they actually think of America.


I hope you do. That was cute.

LarsMac;1504774 wrote: Today, Watching how we are changing as a nation, I envy him.


Much the same could be said of Britain, we're not capable of such blatancy yet but we're just as good at hypocrisy.





tude dog;1504776 wrote: I hope you do. That was cute.The technical term is "vomit-inducing", starting with the damned costumes.

spot;1504777 wrote: The technical term is "vomit-inducing", starting with the damned costumes.


Say what you want, I'm sticking by:

cute

kyoÍžot/Submit

adjective

adjective: cute; comparative adjective: cuter; superlative adjective: cutest

1.

attractive in a pretty or endearing way.

"a cute kitten"

synonyms: endearing, adorable, lovable, sweet, lovely, appealing, engaging, delightful, dear, darling, winning, winsome, attractive, pretty; More

NORTH AMERICANinformal

sexually attractive.

synonyms: good-looking, handsome, attractive, gorgeous

"a cute guy"

2.

NORTH AMERICANinformal

clever or cunning, especially in a self-seeking or superficial way.

"I don't want to be cute with you"

tude dog;1504779 wrote: Say what you want, I'm sticking by:Sexually attractive? You cannot be serious.

spot;1504780 wrote: Sexually attractive? You cannot be serious.


LOL

I think the technical term for that is projection

tude dog;1504781 wrote: LOL

I think the technical term for that is projection


Seriously, it's not. It's called quoting from your definition.

All this really is taking on the image of a runaway train. The way the intelligence community with the assistance of the mainstream media including the conservative biased NY Times and Washing(ton) Post are attempting to box Trump in. Neo liberal media like Salon are jumping on this train as well. How faithful are Trump's supporters is the key question. A certain number have already defected by feeling deceived. Feeling? Hell, realizing! But then these are seasoned and politically savvy - intelligent people, no? Just ask any one of them, they'll tell ya. :wah:

spot;1504782 wrote: Seriously, it's not. It's called quoting from your definition.


Of all this, you focused on

cute

kyoÍžot/Submit

adjective

adjective: cute; comparative adjective: cuter; superlative adjective: cutest

1.

attractive in a pretty or endearing way.

"a cute kitten"

synonyms: endearing, adorable, lovable, sweet, lovely, appealing, engaging, delightful, dear, darling, winning, winsome, attractive, pretty; More

NORTH AMERICANinformal

sexually attractive.

synonyms: good-looking, handsome, attractive, gorgeous

"a cute guy"

2.

NORTH AMERICANinformal

clever or cunning, especially in a self-seeking or superficial way.

"I don't want to be cute with you"




Your choice.

That's OK as long as you don't act on it.

spot;1504777 wrote: Much the same could be said of Britain, we're not capable of such blatancy yet but we're just as good at hypocrisy.





The technical term is "vomit-inducing", starting with the damned costumes.Don't neglect to mention the exploitation by parents of their daughters to express their own political bias (and ignorance). A shameful act in itself. Conservatives pull this sort of ultra controlling crap all the time at HS sporting events as well by making the players pray on the field and recite the National Anthem. Indoctrination, pure and simple.

I had assumed first time through they were professional midgets in their twenties, it was only on loading their Wikipedia entry that I discovered they were all politically precocious pre-teens. Dressed like that it's impossible to tell.

spot;1504790 wrote: I had assumed first time through they were professional midgets in their twenties, it was only on loading their Wikipedia entry that I discovered they were all politically precocious pre-teens. Dressed like that it's impossible to tell.


You and your buddy are a real knee slapper.

tude dog;1504791 wrote: You and your buddy are a real knee slapper.


If I've written anything false I apologize, but I'm not aware that I have. Perhaps you could quote the inaccuracy.

As of 2016, there are 5 girls in USA Freedom Kids: Alexis, age 8, Bianca, age 11, Izzy, age 11, Sarah, age 13, and Victoria, age 12. - Sarah wasn't in the January 13th performance.

Watch footage of the girls talking politics, freedom and what inspired their Donald Trump jam - Politically precocious?

I had assumed first time through they were professional midgets in their twenties - you'll just have to trust me on that one.

After what happened with child beauty pageants you'd think America would have stopped this sort of thing out of a long-overdue sense of guilt, shame and revulsion.

Cute, you reckon. As opposed to stomach-curdling. That nails the issue dead center.

spot;1504792 wrote: If I've written anything false I apologize, but I'm not aware that I have. Perhaps you could quote the inaccuracy.

As of 2016, there are 5 girls in USA Freedom Kids: Alexis, age 8, Bianca, age 11, Izzy, age 11, Sarah, age 13, and Victoria, age 12. - Sarah wasn't in the January 13th performance.

Watch footage of the girls talking politics, freedom and what inspired their Donald Trump jam - Politically precocious?

I had assumed first time through they were professional midgets in their twenties - you'll just have to trust me on that one.

After what happened with child beauty pageants you'd think America would have stopped this sort of thing out of a long-overdue sense of guilt, shame and revulsion.

Cute, you reckon. As opposed to stomach-curdling. That nails the issue dead center.


You are entitled to your opinion.

You know that those girls never got paid for their performances at the Trumper's rallies.

He stiffed them, big time. Guess he didn't think much more of the act that Spot did.

Surprised the parents let them anywhere near a man like donald trump I suppose it's to his credit they are a bit young for him to grope.

You know that those girls never got paid for their performances at the Trumper's rallies.

He stiffed them, big time. Guess he didn't think much more of the act that Spot did.

LarsMac


The Trumphole is not somebody I would want to deal with.

USA Freedom Kids drops lawsuit against Trump campaign

Now it all goes away.

tude dog;1504803 wrote: The Trumphole is not somebody I would want to deal with.

USA Freedom Kids drops lawsuit against Trump campaign

Now it all goes away.


"I trusted Donald Trump," Popick said in July. "If there's anyone who I thought would be good for a promise, it would be Donald Trump."

I think that will sum up a lot of the next couple of years.

Why do I have trouble understanding why a downtrodden, poverty-stricken and disappearing middle class elected a billionaire to save them from the power of the oligarchy?

Sheesh. I told a friend of mine that this last election would determine if there were more intelligent or stupid people in the country. Guess which it is!

Saint_;1504805 wrote: Why do I have trouble understanding why a downtrodden, poverty-stricken and disappearing middle class elected a billionaire to save them from the power of the oligarchy?


Perhaps it is obvious the alternative wasn't working.

Saint_;1504805 wrote: Sheesh. I told a friend of mine that this last election would determine if there were more intelligent or stupid people in the country. Guess which it is!


The majority of votes went for Hillary.

tude dog;1504807 wrote: Perhaps it is obvious the alternative wasn't working.


So we go with the 1%? The rich never cared for anyone but themselves in all of mankind's history!



The majority of votes went for Hillary.


Touche! Or...was that what I meant?

I think Donald Trump is the guy who can really turn it around," Popick said. "If he can't, nobody can."


So a lioar that takes advantage of a kid's group is america's best hope? You're screwed. Mind you so is the UK. Indyref2 here we come

gmc;1504817 wrote: You're screwed.


Umm ...yes. What's your point?

Mark Aspam;1498949 wrote: The Clinton administration was the best since FDR, "Help Wanted" signs everywhere, the economy operating at full tilt. A new Clinton administration will return us to those times.


Which Clinton are you hoping might run for office?

Saint_;1504808 wrote: So we go with the 1%? The rich never cared for anyone but themselves in all of mankind's history!


Two members of the 1% and the one who has contempt for regular American worker lost.

So be it.

Saint_;1504820 wrote: Umm ...yes. What's your point?


It's just my opinion I think your republic is at greater risk now than any time in it's history. Immense social divide, majority of the population feeling disconnected from those who govern them and economic and siocial tensions tearing the place apart with a political system that means the majority of the votes are actrually ignored (biggest fault with a first past the post system) and a populist seeming to act to redress grievances but actually acting for their own interests. The republicans are every bit a ruling elite as the democrats look at who trump is appointing what their first targets are and tell me how you think that is going to solve anything or make america a better place. You're going backwards.

Russia and china are pissing themslves laughing.

On the other hand this will perhaps politicise people as never before and get people engaged in politics and voting as never before social media make a big difference so overall I am quite optimistic but you now have a prident that thibks g-he is above the law and can do what he wants, should be interesting.

I note that President Trump seems not to be receiving the traditional hundred-day honeymoon period, he's being battered mercilessly before even taking office. The outgoing Vice-President, for example, described him yesterday as "mindless".

Out of interest, do any American Democrat supporters have a bad word to say about Huey Long? He seems to have a blackened name but I'm not sure how that could be justified.

I think what we're witnessing is overt coordination between the military complex; the intelligent community and the corporate media. Media outlets on the conservative side such as The NY Times; The Washington Post; CNN, et al - and on the liberal side; MSNBC; Salon; Mother Jones et al. to lame duck Trump before he takes office. When Trump said he wasn't going to accept daily national security briefs, he pissed these agencies off. I think Trump believes (and I agree) the briefs in question serve to keep the president paranoid enough to allow the agencies to control policy to a large extent.

Very interesting to watch. I can't even imagine the pressure going on behind the scenes. It must be insane. We're watching an honest to goodness power play in the works right now.

In my view Washington bureaucrats run the risk of legitimizing the anger that got Trump elected and winning over people like me for Trump with this sort of display. Trump's tweeting is what is making this all public, as it should be. He's a pretty smart guy.

Rather than lying down Trump needs to continue to communicate with his supporters any way possible.

According to John McCain, "There is no national security interest more vital to the US than the ability to hold free and fair elections without foreign interference".

Is this smug exceptionalist suggesting America has never interfered in the holding of free and fair elections abroad?

Why can these dreadful people never hold a mirror up to their own conduct and ask whether it's acceptable one way but not when it's incoming? No country has interfered more in the holding of free and fair elections since the war than America. It's what Americans do to foreigners.

If a Russian intelligence agency did in fact take and distribute the compromising emails showing that the NDC colluded to have Hillary Clinton selected at the primaries then that agency should start a crowdfunding page so I can make monthly contributions. There's a lot more I'd like to hear about that nobody else would tell me.

gmc;1505033 wrote: political system that means the majority of the votes are actrually ignoredThe system worked just fine. The majority that Clinton enjoyed came from one state - California, where she won by 4.5 million votes. That means that Trump did win the popular vote otherwise.

Ahso!;1505040 wrote: The system worked just fine. The majority that Clinton enjoyed came from one state - California, where she won by 4.5 million votes. That means that Trump did win the popular vote otherwise.


It doesn't mean any such thing. The popular vote is the popular vote, no matter if it's coastal. I do have some doubts about dropping the electoral college though, which I won't go into right now.

AnneBoleyn;1505048 wrote: It doesn't mean any such thing. The popular vote is the popular vote, no matter if it's coastal.It means exactly that, Anne. The majority wasn't just coastal, it was one state. The electoral college was instituted to prevent unqualified people from gaining the office of the presidency, and that is exactly what it did.AnneBoleyn;1505048 wrote: I do have some doubts about dropping the electoral college though, which I won't go into right now.Should I hold my breath?

I just wonder when the first assassination attempt will come. With that many guns someone must have the guts...

Quote Originally Posted by AnneBoleyn View Post

I do have some doubts about dropping the electoral college though, which I won't go into right now.

Ahso: Should I hold my breath?

:yh_rotfl

I'm tired right now, ahso; I've been up since 3:45am; & have had difficulty sleeping for awhile & I'm kind of run-down & shaky. I'll have to get back to you.

You're a funny guy! :-6

Clodhopper;1505050 wrote: I just wonder when the first assassination attempt will come. With that many guns someone must have the guts...


Ahhhhhhhhh. You've got the wrong folks for that! Progressive democrats don't behave like Right Wing rethuglicans.

Clodhopper;1505050 wrote: I just wonder when the first assassination attempt will come. With that many guns someone must have the guts...


Had Hillary won and a neo-Con posted that, I hope you'd be horrified. Why does reversing the image make it any better a suggestion?

Well, they blew away most of the Kennedies, had a go at Reagan a couple of times, shot Lincoln in the head...(those are all I can think of off the top of my head. Think there were a few more, but not sure) you'd have thought queues would be forming to get a shot in. I'm not at all horrified by the idea - he deserves it for being such a despicable lump of ****. Why should people like Jo Cox be the only ones to die? Why not get the filth like Trump or Farage too? Liberals have been too meek, too polite, for too long and look where it's got us. It's time for a little militancy.

Perhaps the inaugeration will do it. Audience using volley fire.

Just imagine being a secret service agent, asked to take a bullet for Trump. I'd resign. Or use him as a target and claim he was a Russian agent.

Clodhopper;1505054 wrote: Well, they blew away most of the Kennedies, had a go at Reagan a couple of times, shot Lincoln in the head...(those are all I can think of off the top of my head. Think there were a few more, but not sure) you'd have thought queues would be forming to get a shot in. I'm not at all horrified by the idea - he deserves it for being such a despicable lump of ****. Why should people like Jo Cox be the only ones to die? Why not get the filth like Trump or Farage too? Liberals have been too meek, too polite, for too long and look where it's got us. It's time for a little militancy.

Perhaps the inaugeration will do it. Audience using volley fire.

Just imagine being a secret service agent, asked to take a bullet for Trump. I'd resign. Or use him as a target and claim he was a Russian agent.


Well the left has had their go at a few. Warren G Harding was taken out by an Anarchist. I think that the whole absurdity called WWI was kicked off by leftists.

We Liberals try to be better than the extreme nutjobs. Killing your rivals seldom, if ever, accomplishes anything. It just makes you as bad as the rest. What's the point, then?

It honestly matters little what my philosophy may be if to defend it I must become one of the mob of violent thugs.

Clod, why are you this wrapped up in American politics?

I suspect that a lot of Brits get caught up in American politics.

We have pushed ourselves out onto the world stage and made them all sit up a take notice. We can annihilate the world 20-30 times over without breaking a sweat, and now we have a complet wacko that will soon have his finger on the button. Any thinking Brit is likely to be keeping an eye on our goings on, these days.

I'm not so sure Trump is as much of a wacko as people are hoping - that people hope he is though is quite troubling. So far in some ways he's been brilliant. It's funny that Americans complain about politicians and when an outsider get elected they get right to trashing them too. The alternative was a mass murderer. You would have preferred that?

LarsMac;1505065 wrote: We can annihilate the world 20-30 times over without breaking a sweat


I've seen it claimed many times, but I beg leave to express my doubts. Civilization might be put back a few years if the entire world arsenal went up one day but that's my estimate of the consequence. Yes it would kill a lot of people. There might be no Luxembourgers left afterwards. Global warming would be set back twenty years. The human population would stabilize at a tenth of what it is today. There would be unhealthy places to avoid.

Oh, he's wacko, all right. and the biggest con since PT Barnum. What is more frightening is the fact that so many people have bought into his con.

LarsMac;1505070 wrote: Oh, he's wacko, all right. and the biggest con since PT Barnum. What is more frightening is the fact that so many people have bought into his con.How's his con different than any of the other's con? Do you think Trump's secret goal is to blow up the world?

Ahso!;1505072 wrote: How's his con different than any of the other's con? Do you think Trump's secret goal is to blow up the world?


More a case of I question his stability and his ability to react to a situation rationally rather than emotionally - no need for a secret goal for him to do a great deal of damage.