WW3 - New World Order - Pole Shift - Age of Peace (2006-2012)

koan · Post by **koan** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:07 pm

ZOverlord is the one he should be concerned about convincing. I think if TruthBringer can sway him to accept what he has to say then we would all be living in Happyland.

The internet really is a big place. We can live in many places at once, be whomever we choose and still leave lots of room for others to co-exist. Every new user ID is a chance to become a completely new person with no baggage. And that's the Truth. It's all about choices.

koan · Post by **koan** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:13 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: Is ZOverlord a member here? Perhaps we can invite him.

It is entirely possible that he could be convinced to make at least one comment. :-6

Post by **spot** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:14 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: Is ZOverlord a member here? Perhaps we can invite him.

There's no need. For is it not truly written, "I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me."

koan · Post by **koan** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:23 pm

spot wrote: There's no need. For is it not truly written, "I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me."

He did post under the warfare&military forum. It is written, "All's fair in love and war."

koan · Post by **koan** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:25 pm

sixyearsleft wrote: Whats up with you getting all preachy?

Just read this thread and see what happens when one stores all one's preachiness up for too long. There is nothing wrong with a well placed preach now and then.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:09 pm

Where'd he go?

I've become a TruthBringer's Witness - I seem to have lost my prophet!

Maybe the Father got to him and brought him back home.

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BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:01 pm

sixyearsleft wrote: Whats up with you getting all preachy?
What's up with you getting all confrontational??? :yh_wait

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:28 am

I'm toying with the idea of a Coalition of the Willing, since TruthBringer may be considering what to do next, so I've started cross-linking the people on other sites who have tried engagement with him where he's duplicate-posted. My first one's DISeasedjesus and he was making neat points.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:31 pm

Jesus never said a word about "Christians" my friends.

Jesus was talking about His followers.

There was no such thing as a "Christian" until Jesus died. However, people who not only BELIEVED in what He taught but who ACTED like He taught even to this day are the followers He was referring to.

Not the churche's opinion of Christians or Christ's followers. But rather Jesus's own special opinion of who was to be His followers. Not for any of us to decide.

ITS NOT WHAT YOU DO IN LIFE THAT COUNTS. ITS WHY YOU DO IT.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:41 pm

Jesus Christ declared firmly that end time persecution would come to His followers in ALL NATIONS. And that he that ENDURES TO THE END would be saved. (NOT he that is "Raptured!") In fact, He even warned that there would be times (undoubtedly of severe persecution) in which His disciples would long to see the hour of His coming, but that it would not necessarily occur at that desired time to rescue them.

Jesus spoke these words to give a foundation of understanding to His people, and to His believers who would face these tribulations in the end-times as well. He wants His people/people who have accepted God into their life in one form or another to be prepared for the things that they are called to suffer for His name's sake, so that no one might be overcome of evil nor unprepared to face such testing. He warns His people, so that they might begin to prepare themselves spiritually to endure and overcome what they are to face for His sake.

As people have traveled across America, they have been saddened and disappointed by the response of many pastors and many believers in God to this pertinent information. They have turned aside from the truth embodied in end-time prophecy, in order to embrace the doctrine of "the Rapture" or have said that "... because of America's Godly heritage in it's beginning, such incidents of persecution could NEVER happen in America."

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:45 pm

People have repeatedly heard pastors lead their congregations to believe that before end-time persecution can come upon the Believers in America, the Rapture will come! Yet, this has not proven to be the reality in many nations in recent decades for people who believe in Christ. We know that millions died in Russia and the former Soviet Union for their faith and unwavering testimony of Jesus Christ. How many have died in China for their faith? How many in the Sudan? Indonesia? Nepal? Cuba? Africa? And all within less than the past one hundred years.

For such persecuted believers, there was no Rapture to save them from end-time persecution. Rather, the Words of Jesus Christ held true: "He that endureth unto the end, the same shall be saved."

Did you know that America is filled with unknown martyrs? Although the names of many of them will never be known to us except in eternity, Believers have been dying for their faith in America for many years. How?

Hard-core Satanism in America, has caused the reality of both children and adults often being targeted and abducted for sacrifice BECAUSE they were believers in Christ (or from homes of people who believe in Christ) and taken away to be brutally tortured and sacrificed. And just because you may have never heard of this means nothing!

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:48 pm

Bloody hell, he hasn't read a word.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:07 pm

If someone wants to ask me a serious question, one that is intended not for starting a conflict between me and the other person, but one that is intended for everyone on this board to benefit from the outcome, then I will gladly answer in return.

Until then, I refuse to get into a battle for the sake of battle. Nothing good ever comes from such things. And nothing ever will.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:21 pm

By the way Spot,

If I see you trying to recruit other members of other boards to this one I will report you immediately to that boards owner and staff.

It is against other boards policies to come onto their board and directly try to recruit members of that board to this one.

Read the fine print in the rules and policies section. It equals an instant ban.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:26 pm

Good vs Evil.

Has their ever been a better conflict?

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:27 pm

TruthBringer wrote: If I see you trying to recruit other members of other boards to this one I will report you immediately to that boards owner and staff.

It is against other boards policies to come onto their board and directly try to recruit members of that board to this one.No problem - I'm sure they'll see my point, I have no worries there.

You're mistaken in thinking any of us here want a fight with you. We want a conversation.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:27 pm

TruthBringer,

I suppose you are wise in the ways of forums from your experiences at The Right Answers.

I think you'd be best to think of the advice ZOverlord offered you. About EGO and what comprises a good thread on a forum.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:28 pm

As far as www.onlytherightanswers.com is concerned Spot, that is my Fathers board. Good luck trying to convince him to "join the party" over here. lol.

I have a hard enough time trying to convince him to do anything. He's a stubborn one to say the least.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:29 pm

koan wrote: TruthBringer,

I suppose you are wise in the ways of forums from your experiences at The Right Answers.

I think you'd be best to think of the advice ZOverlord offered you. About EGO and what comprises a good thread on a forum.

Thanks for your opinion Koan.

I'm sorry we feel differently on the matter.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:30 pm

TruthBringer wrote:

ITS NOT WHAT YOU DO IN LIFE THAT COUNTS. ITS WHY YOU DO IT.

I agree. But I think you are missing your own motives in writing like a modern day prophet.

Here's a question: what are your credentials? I'd like to know what in your life has caused your sudden illumination to the Truth.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:31 pm

koan wrote: I agree. But I think you are missing your own motives in writing like a modern day prophet.

Here's a question: what are your credentials? I'd like to know what in your life has caused your sudden illumination to the Truth.

Credentials?

What was Hitlers Credentials? I'm sure he could school you in many things.

Credentials means nothing to me. I've seen a farmboy (Edgar Cayce) do more than many Politicians and or people with high positions could do in lifetimes.

What was Jesus's "credentials"?

Born in a barn. And a Carpenter.

Boy I bet you feel like you could top that one don't you Koan?

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:32 pm

TruthBringer wrote: Credentials?

What was Hitlers Credentials? I'm sure he could school you in many things.

He's not trying to school me. You are. So I ask the question again. Why should I listen to you? How did you come by all this knowledge. Because I've read a few books myself.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:34 pm

TruthBringer wrote: Credentials?

What was Hitlers Credentials? I'm sure he could school you in many things.

Credentials means nothing to me. I've seen a farmboy (Edgar Cayce) do more than many Politicians and or people with high positions could do in lifetimes.

What was Jesus's "credentials"?

obviously you are not a scholar in the use of the English language. That aside, Jesus' credentials are stricken from the record but word has it he trained with the Essenes or other mystical cult until the age of about 30 when he felt ready to lead. So where did you train?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:36 pm

koan wrote: obviously you are not a scholar in the use of the English language. That aside, Jesus' credentials are stricken from the record but word has it he trained with the Essenes or other mystical cult until the age of about 30 when he felt ready to lead. So where did you train?

Koan.

Stop trying to blow Jesus's image up to make Him seem more important.

He was important regardless of where He traveled or trained.

Obviously, you have alot to learn about Life.

Don't we all though.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:37 pm

TruthBringer wrote: Koan.

Stop trying to blow Jesus's image up to make Him seem more important.

He was important regardless of where He traveled.

Obviously, you have alot to learn about Life.

Don't we all though.

Hey, you're the one quoting and referencing him, not me.

Obviously you have a lot to learn about preaching. You have to win an audience lest you be a cult of 1.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:40 pm

Point in case: you ask "What was Jesus's "credentials"?

I answer

You tell me I'm the one making him sound important.

edit to add: did you just imply Edgar Cayce is on the level of Jesus as a prophet?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:41 pm

I don't have to do anything.

Thats where you are wrong.

If I get no audience, then I get no audience. If I get an audience, I get an audience, let the chips fall where they may.

I do nothing in life without my own choices. You will never EVER make a decision for me. No matter how much you may try.

Tampering with free-will is a no no on this Plane or any other Koan. Careful what you wish for.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:43 pm

TruthBringer wrote: I don't have to do anything.

Thats where you are wrong.

If I get no audience, then I get no audience. If I get an audience, I get an audience, let the chips fall where they may.

I do nothing in life without my own choices. You will never EVER make a decision for me. No matter how much you may try.

Tampering with free-will is a no no on this Plane or any other Koan. Careful what you wish for.

You sound like a child talking to a parent in rebellion.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:44 pm

I thought you wanted to "engage me" Koan.

Sounds more like you want to do all the answering.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:45 pm

And, aside from the fact that I haven't "wished" for anything in this thread, I'd bet I know a lot more about Karma than you do.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:46 pm

TruthBringer wrote: I thought you wanted to "engage me" Koan.

Sounds more like you want to do all the answering.

Here's a sad fact for you: this is the best conversation you've engaged in on this board.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:46 pm

The news media in America IS CIA/Illuminati /government controlled, and they make sure that their people are in place throughout our nation to ensure blackout of such information to the average American.

America's Satanists are very well organized and operate under a high level of covertness to protect their names, reputations, and legally. In reports from SATANISM IN AMERICA TODAY, They have been documented in many accounts from former high level Satanists of people being targeted BECAUSE they were believers in Christ. They were stalked, abducted, and sacrificed for their faith.

As one previous Satanist admitted, "Satan was demanding Christ's followers for sacrifice, and by golly, we obliged him. They were targeted, stalked and sacrificed like all the rest..." (From a former CIA assassin, Satanist leader in one state, now a Christ follower/lecturer exposing the occult.)

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:47 pm

You refer quite often to evil, TruthBringer. Do you regard some aspects of this world as irredeemable?

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:48 pm

Which media? How are they doing this? I want details.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:51 pm

Conversation is a good thing.

But if you really want to see how I can converse, wait until I am done with this thread all-together.

If this has shocked you so far, then wait until what happens then because you won't believe your eyes.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:51 pm

One eye-witness account from the mountains of NC admitted that, as a Satanist, she participated in the abduction of a well known believer in Christ who was a witness/intercessor in that region that the local Satanists hated. She was abducted while walking home on a rural road at dusk. Their van pulled up next to her, men jumped out and seized her and she was thrown into the back of the van. Her mouth, hands and feet were then duct-taped and she was injected with a knock-out drug. When she revived, she found herself chained naked to a Satanic altar deep in the heart of the Great Smoky Mountains, in a massive cave known to all Satanists in that region.

She was then tempted to deny Jesus Christ as they offered to let her live IF she would work for them to infiltrate churches, spy on Christians, etc. According to this former Satanist' account, she refused. Her only reply was: "I BELIEVE IN CHRIST!" And they then proceeded to torture her most brutally, until she finally died. The former Satanist friend never forgot this. And her father, who participated in the martyrdom of this young woman, eventually became a Believer in Christ as well.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:52 pm

TruthBringer wrote: As one previous Satanist admitted, "Satan was demanding Christ's followers for sacrifice, and by golly, we obliged him. They were targeted, stalked and sacrificed like all the rest..." (From a former CIA assassin, Satanist leader in one state, now a Christ follower/lecturer exposing the occult.)If you could provide us with his name, for example? A full source citation of the quotation? I have such grave doubts, from past experience of finding that you've invented quotes that were never made. Who said "Satan was demanding Christ's followers for sacrifice, and by golly, we obliged him. They were targeted, stalked and sacrificed like all the rest"?

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:53 pm

TruthBringer wrote: But if you really want to see how I can converse, wait until I am done with this thread all-together.We'd like to do it a bit at a time, tease things out as you bring them up, if we may. We're tired of just watching.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:54 pm

spot wrote: If you could provide us with his name, for example? A full source citation of the quotation? I have such grave doubts, from past experience of finding that you've invented quotes that were never made. Who said "Satan was demanding Christ's followers for sacrifice, and by golly, we obliged him. They were targeted, stalked and sacrificed like all the rest"?

I gave you the place that you could fine these accounts and many others Spot! If you would only read before you posted.

Satanism in America Today.

Check it out. Read what they have to say.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:56 pm

Other eye-witness accounts include followers of Christ being abducted and nailed to literal crosses and tortured to death. One abducted pastor pleaded with his Satanist persecutors to repent and accept Jesus Christ as Savior, even after he was nailed to such a cross. Finally wearying of his Christian witness, one Satanist took a knife and slashed his throat to silence him. He died on that cross for the testimony of Jesus Christ...in the heart of those mountains known as "the Bible Belt." (People, how little you know about true persecution in America!)

From Indiana, we have the testimony of former high priestess Elaine, now a Christian exposing Satanism. Elaine's daughter Claudia, also being trained at one time to become a high priestess like her mother, admitted: "We Satanists in Indiana even invented a cross that would separate in the middle after the victim was crucified. We also designed wooden spikes instead of metal nails, because it would inflict more pain on the victim. After the victim was nailed to the cross, they were then torn to pieces as we separated the cross into two sections..." believers in God were frequently their victims, both adult and child.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:00 pm

TruthBringer wrote: I gave you the place that you could fine these accounts and many others Spot! If you would only read before you posted.Has the concept of posting a URL to the material rather than copy-pasting page after page here not occurred to you? It would be simpler, it would leave the thread less cluttered, it would allow space and time for discussion of the material.

You refer quite often to evil, TruthBringer. Do you regard some aspects of this world as irredeemable?