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Does Religion rely on Death.

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:08 pm
by spot
No, interpretation can be the sudden blinding revelation that a whole complicated mass of theory can be replaced by a single far more powerful way of looking at the world. The observations remain just as they were but now, with the new theory, entire undreamed of avenues of research open up and scientists feel they have a far better understanding of the underlying processes. It still leaves them just as distant from the reality which gives rise to the observations.

Where religions have failed is in applying logic to their field, or engaging with those who do apply it. By all means say, as an article of faith, that god is external and omnipotent, but admit in consequence that he necessarily falls short of any sensible meaning of the word good. If a religion can't admit that, then it logically has to modify the former article. No monotheist fundamentalist is capable of abandoning external and omnipotent because they're all bible literalists who insist their texts are the immutable word of god. Hence my describing then as delusional, in that they reject the unavoidable demands of logic.

Does Religion rely on Death.

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:18 pm
by theia
Ahso!;1378188 wrote: One group is delusional and the other is not. There is no plant there and the person claiming it is confirms it isn't by the behavior of only pretending the feeding and watering. They know I'd be upset by pouring water directly onto my carpet.


Fair enough, my mistake...I missed that in your earlier post

Does Religion rely on Death.

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:55 pm
by Ahso!
theia;1378192 wrote: Fair enough, my mistake...I missed that in your earlier postThat was a metaphor for people who claim the existence of a god and participate in rituals and holidays but fail in the true observance of things such as advancing peace or truly respecting all life for example. Hypocrites, or as I like to say, true nonbelievers. And the worst ones are those who claim, or offer no explanation at all.

Does Religion rely on Death.

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:44 am
by Mick Fenner
An invisible or imaginary plant is not a problem just as a God is not a problem its what the plant and or God are said to have done and often demand we do and say that is the problem especialy when people follow even telling children about there friend in the corner.