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koan;1338896 wrote: Just thought of something...

How stupid is the insurance company that they didn't insist he have fire services to qualify. The bank insists that you have house insurance to grant a mortgage... you'd think they'd want to protect their liability.


Out of curiosity, in Canada of course everyone has universal health insurance.

Are fire and trash services also universal services?

koan;1338896 wrote: Just thought of something...

How stupid is the insurance company that they didn't insist he have fire services to qualify. The bank insists that you have house insurance to grant a mortgage... you'd think they'd want to protect their liability.
Excellent point.

yaaarrrgg;1338918 wrote: Out of curiosity, in Canada of course everyone has universal health insurance.

Are fire and trash services also universal services?


I'm not sure. I've never lived in a remote area.

koan;1338953 wrote: I'm not sure. I've never lived in a remote area.


Having no trash service is/was pretty common in the U.S. I live in the second or third largest city in Indiana, and have relatives just a couple miles away that don't have it. They were just outside the city limits, and had to burn their trash or have us pick it up. But just looking at a street, the city/country line isn't really apparent in any visible way. Mostly I think it's just a way to tax people differently, when they have a larger/smaller yard.

What bothers me though, is I think people already pay enough federal taxes to cover all these basic services. I mean, if we can spend over 3 trillion dollars attacking the wrong country, we can take out the trash too.

yaaarrrgg;1338918 wrote: Out of curiosity, in Canada of course everyone has universal health insurance.

Are fire and trash services also universal services?


They are here. You pay for them in your insurance levies and council rates.

"Victoria to scrap fire services levy

Friday, 27/08/2010

The Victorian Government has dumped its controversial fire services levy and will double fuel reduction burns, in response to the Bushfires Royal Commission.

The fire services levy, which funds the Country Fire Authority and the Metropolitan Fire Brigade, has been widely discredited as being unequitable, as it's only paid by those who have insurance. It will be replaced by a property levy in 2012.

The State Government will also spend nearly $400 million on increasing fuel reduction burns to 385,000 hectares a year."

Victoria to scrap fire services levy. 27 Aug 2010. National Rural News. (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

yaaarrrgg;1338997 wrote: Having no trash service is/was pretty common in the U.S. I live in the second or third largest city in Indiana, and have relatives just a couple miles away that don't have it. They were just outside the city limits, and had to burn their trash or have us pick it up. But just looking at a street, the city/country line isn't really apparent in any visible way. Mostly I think it's just a way to tax people differently, when they have a larger/smaller yard.

What bothers me though, is I think people already pay enough federal taxes to cover all these basic services. I mean, if we can spend over 3 trillion dollars attacking the wrong country, we can take out the trash too.
Trash pickup should be a federal service?? :wah:

Accountable;1339057 wrote: Trash pickup should be a federal service?? :wah:


On health grounds if nothing else.

If trash collection is optional then there are those who will opt out.

Their trash will either accumulate and become a health hazzard or they will fly-tip and it will be both a health hazzard and an eyesore.

Here it is a local council service paid for our of the council tax - no reason for it to be a national service, there is nothing federal about it.

The emergency services are also mandatory (Police, Fire, Ambulance and Coastguard - paid out of local tax revenue) so there is no danger of a property being alloed to burn down for non-payment and endangering other life and property as a result.

Bryn Mawr;1339060 wrote: On health grounds if nothing else.

If trash collection is optional then there are those who will opt out.

Their trash will either accumulate and become a health hazzard or they will fly-tip and it will be both a health hazzard and an eyesore.

Here it is a local council service paid for our of the council tax - no reason for it to be a national service, there is nothing federal about it.

The emergency services are also mandatory (Police, Fire, Ambulance and Coastguard - paid out of local tax revenue) so there is no danger of a property being alloed to burn down for non-payment and endangering other life and property as a result.Wrong country, Bryn. We have areas where houses are miles apart and people burn their trash.

Accountable;1339082 wrote: Wrong country, Bryn. We have areas where houses are miles apart and people burn their trash.


I agree. As a matter of fact I can't think of an instance where I've ever seen trash cans out by the roads in the country. Burn barrels all the time, not garbage cans or dumpsters unless it's on a business lot.

Accountable;1339082 wrote: Wrong country, Bryn. We have areas where houses are miles apart and people burn their trash.


I sit corrected - it's difficult to realise the effect of having so much space to play with. What is workable here would be totally untenable in the States (and vice versa).

Accountable;1339148 wrote:


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