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Question: "How soon will the changes in the Earth's activity begin to be apparent?"

Edgar Cayce: "When there is the first breaking up of some conditions in the South Sea (that's South Pacific, to be sure), and those as apparent in the sinking or rising of that that's almost opposite same, or in the Mediterranean, and the Aetna (Etna) area, then we may know it has begun."

Question: "How long before this will begin?"

Edgar Cayce: "The indications are that some of these have already begun, yet others would say these are only temporary. We would say they have begun."

Edgar Cayce

311-8

April 9th, 1932

"These changes in the Earth will come to pass, for the time and times and half times are at an end and there begin those periods for the readjustments. For how hath He given? The righteous shall inherit the Earth. Hast thou, my brethren, a heritage in the Earth?"

Edgar Cayce

294-185

June 30th, 1936

"As for the weather conditions, and the effect same will produce on various portions of the Earth's sphere, and this in its relation to the conditions in the affairs of the World appear strongest on or around October 15th to 20th (sometime as we approach December 21st 2012) - when there may be expected in the minds, the actions - not of individuals but in various quarters of the Globe, destructive conditions as well as building. In the affairs of man many conditions will arise that will be very, very, strange to the World in present - in religion, in politics, in the moral conditions, and in the attempt to curb or change such, see? For there will be set in motion violent wind storms - two Earthquakes, one occurring in California, another in Japan, - tidal waves following, one to the southern portion of the isles near Japan."

Edgar Cayce

195-32

August 27th, 1926



Question: "In reading given on August 27th regarding weather, where in California will Earthquake predicted October 15th-20th be the worst? Will there be a tidal wave at that period, or where in California?"

Edgar Cayce: "Tidal wave being, as is given, in the Far East, the Earthquake being in lower California, see?"

Edgar Cayce

195-33

September 1st, 1926

Question: "Would the climate of San Diego, California, be beneficial to him and his family?"

Edgar Cayce: "That ABOVE San Diego would be more beneficial than that near to San Diego. Beware of the quakes that will occur there a little later on."

Edgar Cayce

4283-5

September 15th, 1928

Question: "What are the primary causes of Earthquakes?"

Edgar Cayce: "The causes of these, of course, are the movements about the Earth; that is, internally - and the cosmic activity or influence of other planetary forces and stars and their relationships produce or bring about the activities of the elementals of the Earth; that is, the Earth, the Air, the Fire, the Water - and those combinations make for the replacements in the various activities."

Edgar Cayce

270-35

January 21st, 1936



"As to conditions in the geography of the World, of the country changes here are gradually coming about. For, many portions of the east coast will be disturbed, as well as many portions of the west coast, as well as the central portion of the U.S."

Edgar Cayce

1152-11

August 13th, 1941

The statement that Edgar Cayce made about Earthquakes being caused by internal movements "About the Earth" finds support in work by Q. Cadek, who determined that dynamic processes up to 1,000 km deep in the Earth's mantle can be linked with surface tectonic activity, which would include Earthquakes.

Q Cadek's work can be found in Earth and Planetary Science Letters, 1995 v. 136, p. 615.

In 1941, Edgar Cayce was asked:



Question: "Will Los Angeles be safe?"

Edgar Cayce: "Lost Angeles, San Francisco, most all of these will be among those that will be destroyed before New York even."

Edgar Cayce

1152-11

August 13th, 1941



Edgar Cayce: "If there are the greater activities in the Vesuvius, or Pelee, then the southern coast of California and the areas between Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada - may expect, within the three months following same, an inundation by the Earthquakes. But these, as we find, are to be more in the Southern than in the Northern Hemisphere."

Edgar Cayce

270-35

January 21st, 1936

California's San Andreas fault and its system of sub-parallel faults are recognized as being the boundary zone between the Pacific and North American plates. These slabs of crust are constantly grinding against one another.

Certainly, this up to three month warning could be quite useful. Just think about this fact: the quake caused by movement along the small fault beneath Northridge, the first quake since 1933 to strike directly under an urban area of the United States, produced the greatest financial loss ($13 to $20 billion) from a natural disaster at that time since 1906.

Then what if the main San Andreas fault just east of Los Angeles were to experience a big slippage? If it did so tomorrow, 10 million or more people in the developed areas of southern California could be effected. The big quake recurrence interval on the San Andreas fault has averaged about 100 years at Wrightwood, California, and the elapsed time since the last big quake there in 1857 has already been about 150 years. Since 1857, the fault in southern California has remained fairly quiet, storing stress that could be released in a series of magnitude 7 quakes or even one big magnitude 8+ shock.

Because proximity makes all the difference in Earthquakes, the most affected people from a big San Andreas fault quake would be the 3 million residents who live by the fault in San Bernadino and Riverside; but in Los Angeles, the most intense shaking would come from Earthquakes beneath the city. In the worst-case scenario for Los Angeles, several thrust faults beneath the L.A. Basin might break all at once instead of separately. Researchers warn that the L.A. Basin has probably been in an Earthquake lull over the past 200 years. The calm will likely be broken by a barrage of Northridge-sized Earth Quakes, by a single, far larger quake, or some combination of the two.

By the way, Edgar Cayce's prediction of a Major Earthquake occuring in California (As well as one in Japan) on or around October 15th to 20th that will be strong enough to create tidal waves could very well be for this year! I would not recommend being anywhere near these areas from here on out if I was any of the residents that live there.

Again, what of the warning for coastal California in Edgar Cayce's reading 270-35 that implies a very long-distance connection between seismotectonic activities in one place (Mt. Vesuvius or Pelee) and resultant activities expressed through a time lag in another place (coastal southern California).

Mt. Vesuvius is located about nine miles southeast of Naples, in southern Italy. The eruption of Mt. Vesuvius in 1944 did not involve truly "greater activities," by comparison, say, to the burial of Pompeii in 79 A.D. or the devastating eruptions of 1631, 1794, 1872, and 1906. At present there are about 1 million people at risk in the Vesuvius area, considered to be one of the most dangerous volcanic areas on Earth.

It is interesting to note that Mt. Vesuvius lies within the remains of a much larger ancient volcano, designated Monte Somma. The end of the constructional phase of Monte Somma occurred 18,000 years ago. Since this was the final constructional phase of the great volcano, it is interesting to note that it was probably being built for at least a thousand years prior to the 18,000 year old date. This means that its building coincides with the destruction of the surrounding areas some 2,300 miles to the west.

Mount Pelee, not to be confused with Pele, the "Hawaiian fire goddess," is located on the northern coast of the island of Martinique in the West Indies. It erupted in 1792 and 1851. In May of 1902, it suddenly erupted again when masses of lava, pumice, and hot ash burst from the south side of the 4,600 foot high mountain. In one day, 30,000 people died. That same year, 15,000 people lost their lives to the eruption of Soufriere volcano on the nearby island of St. Vincent.

Is there anything going on volcanologically in the Caribbean area right now that might be signaling that renewed eruptive activity is in store for the World? Perhaps. We should note that volcanoes in Costa Rica and Nicaragua have been showing increased activity, near the western end of the Caribbean plate. Of greater significance is the eruption of the Soufriere Hills Volcano on the island of Montserrat, only 150 miles north-northwest of Mt. Pelee. This volcano had been dormant for about 16,000 years, when it suddenly began rumbling and spewing ash on July 18th, 1995. In April of 1996, continuous seismic activity began to occur, and the volcano started belching ash clouds as high as 7,000 feet into the air. This activity on Montserrat sounds similar to the premonitory eruption of Mt. Soufriere, on St. Vincent, which preceded the cataclysmic eruption of Mt. Pelee in 1902.

The last major eruption of Mt. Pelee was in 1929. It remained active for three years but no lives were lost from the eruptions. Just prior to the Pelee May 8th, 1902 eruption, and Earthquake shook Quezaltenago in Guatemala, 2,100 miles away. On May 7th, a major volcano erupted at Soufriere, on St. Vincent, only 100 miles away, and on May 10th, the Izalco volcano erupted in El Salvador, 1,938 miles away. These four events, occurring withing days of each other, fractions of seconds in geological time, provide strong evidence of the relationship between Earthquakes and volcanoes (especially when we realize that these locations are on opposite ends of the Caribbean plate).

One can conjecture that once the Pole-Shift begins, and the tectonic plates and mantle bulges get moving, Vesuvius and Pelee, due to their sensitive locations, will be among the first to respond. Their eruptions will then be followed by numerous seismotectonic events in the southern Hemisphere, and, additionally, areas of coastal California and parts of Nevada and Utah as well.

Much of the city of San Diego, including the business center and harbor, is situated on a low sandy area that could be subjected to intensity 8 shaking, although no magnitude 5.5 or greater quakes have occurred close to San Diego for the last 80 years. The San Andreas fault lies only 65 or so miles east of the city. However, in line with the importance of proximity to quakes mentioned above, the greater threat to San Diego may be related to the Rose Canyon fault zone that recently has been found to project into the downtown area. Preliminary interpretations of fault exposures and radiocarbon age determinations suggest active faulting and possibly a recent ground rupture event along the fault zone there.

The Rose Canyon Fault extends northwestward offshore, reappearing as the Newport-Inglewood fault that runs directly under Los Angeles. Movement on this front caused the 1933 Long Beach quake.

I find this all very facinating.

hoppy;1295448 wrote: I find this all very facinating.


What surprises me is that alot of Californian residents have no clue about the dangerous history of their state. Probably due to the fact that the government doesn't exactly teach this stuff to it's citizens as much as they probably should, but also because many of the residents are currently focused on other things which are going to hold little or no value when the next big quake strikes. Now on the other hand, many of the residents do know about the history there, and for whatever reason, many of them still choose to stay. Russian roulette comes to mind.

The San Francisco Bay area was far more seismically active in the nineteenth century, before the 1906 quake., than it has been since. But things began picking up in the Bay area about 45 years ago. After the Loma Prieta quake that damaged San Francisco and Oakland in October, 1990, a U.S. Geological Survey working group estimated that there is a 67 percent chance that one of the major faults in the region will unleash a magnitude 7 or larger quake in the next 30 years. A quake this size under the populated Bay area would wreak significantly more damage than the 7.1 Loma Prieta shock that originated in the rural Santa Cruz Mountains.

Scientists are concerned that the devastation to the San Francisco Bay area caused by the Loma Prieta quake may echo the high Earthquake activity that rocked the same area during the nineteenth century. There are two equally disturbing possibilities. One is that a historical pattern of large paired quakes - involving faults on the San Francisco Peninsula and the Oakland (East Bay) sides of the Bay - may be about to repeat itself. If so, the East Bay would be the next site of a large, but not enormous, shock, probably on the Calaveras or Haywood faults. The Hayward fault cuts through the cities of Fremont, Hayward, Oakland, and Berkeley. According to a state study, a magnitude 7.5 event, the largest credible quake on Hayward, might kill up to 4,500 people, injure more than 50,000, and wreak social havoc among the 5 million residents of the area.

The other possibility is that the stress between the tectonic plates on the Peninsula side has now been increased significantly by the slippage of the Loma Prieta area to the south, requiring the part of the San Andreas fault that runs toward San Francisco to be the next to move. The San Andreas segment on the Peninsula has been locked tight since 1906, as had the Loma Prieta segment until 1990. It runs northwest by Santa Clara, Palo Alto, and San Mateo to San Francisco itself. What is quite discomforting is that in the nineteenth century two Hayward fault shocks of about magnitude 6.7 were marched within two to three years by ones of magnitude 6.5 to 7.0 on the San Francisco side of the Bay along the San Andreas.

We need to realize that California came into being as a result of repeated plastering on of fragments of continental and oceanic crust transported mostly from south to north or west to east by movements of the Pacific lithospheric plate, or by underthrusting of the North American plate by the Pacific plate. Some of the details of the formation of the coast range of mountains and the Napa Valley, in the Santa Rosa and Petaluma area, are rendered almost poetically in this passage from John McPhee's Assembling California:

"As we go up the stream valley and arrive at the shore lake of Berryessa (30 miles east of Santa Rosa) we pass through huge road-cuts of sedimentary rock whose bedding planes, originally horizontal, have been bent almost ninety degrees and are nearly vertical. Reaching for the sky in distinct unrumpled stripes, the rock ends in hogbacks, jagged ridges...these are the bottom layers of the Great Valley sequence...some of the strata that were folded against the Franciscan melange when it rose (or was pushed) to the surface as the latest addition to the western end of the continent."

Today, terranes like that just described - joined to the continent by ancient suturing processes - are being sliced off again within the west coast's active tectonic strip and are being conveyed northwestward by displacements related to interactions between the Pacific and North American plates. The most visible example of this is found where Baja California is being transferred from the North American to the Pacific Plate. The transfer of the Baja Peninsula to the Pacific plate during the eastward shift of the plate boundary is generally assumed to have been completed by millions of years before the present, when sea-floor spreading commenced along the Gulf rise in the southern Gulf of California.

The fragments of Edgar Cayce's readings that I posted before, in concert with several other readings, may be interpreted to mean that the sudden acceleration in plate motions that will result from the upcoming Pole-Shift will cause the transfer of the sliver of the west coast, west of the Hayward fault and its northwestward extention, from the North American to the Pacific plate. This crustal sliver could well include the Santa Rosa/Petaluma area, because the Pacific-North American plate boundary for the lower crust and upper mantle is located approximately beneath the surface trace of the Hayward fault in the San Francisco Bay Area, and beneath the trace of the northwesterly extension of the fault (along the Rodgers Creek fault) just to the east of Petaluma and Santa Rosa.

I was born in San Diego 60 plus years ago I know all to well the earthquake faults in this city, as most of us "Natives" do. The last quake that I remember that rumbled the ground good here I was pregnant with my daughter living in an Apartment in Pt. Loma with my now deceased X- Husband that was 42 or 43 years ago. Have lived with it and will continue to live with it. Exactly what would you want us to do evacuate everyone to the other side of the Rose Canyon Fault? What will be, will be San Diego is still one of the best places in the world to live for climate perfect.. :-6



Today there was a 4.0 earthquake in our mountain area know as Julian no damage. Hawaii had a quake today as well guess the plates are adjusting to the 10 feet the Chile earthquake moved the town of Concepcion.



Not much any of us can do when Planet Earth decides to remodel. :-6

TruthBringer;1295414 wrote: A 1960 article in the respected British periodical Nature on the concept of "planetary forces" as an element to be considered in the mechanism of Earthquake generation said this


No, it wasn't an article, it was a Letter.

Earthquakes and Uranus: Misuse of a Statistical Test of Significance is the abstract of the contemporary response.

TruthBringer;1293655 wrote: Well all I can say to the people who say, "I'm gonna sit right here, and if a series of major earthquakes rocks California, along with tsunamis of epic proportions, then I will make dinner for them before I say my last goodbye" (I'm being a bit sarcastic but you see the point)", is.......why?

Because we all die?

Well if we all die, then why don't we all just kill ourselves right now? It would save us the time of having to wait for it (I'm being sarcastic again of course).


I've been telling people who smoke cigerettes that for years!

CARLA;1295472 wrote: I was born in San Diego 60 plus years ago I know all to well the earthquake faults in this city, as most of us "Natives" do. The last quake that I remember that rumbled the ground good here I was pregnant with my daughter living in an Apartment in Pt. Loma with my now deceased X- Husband that was 42 or 43 years ago. Have lived with it and will continue to live with it. Exactly what would you want us to do evacuate everyone to the other side of the Rose Canyon Fault? What will be, will be San Diego is still one of the best places in the world to live for climate perfect.. :-6



Today there was a 4.0 earthquake in our mountain area know as Julian no damage. Hawaii had a quake today as well guess the plates are adjusting to the 10 feet the Chile earthquake moved the town of Concepcion.



Not much any of us can do when Planet Earth decides to remodel. :-6


What if someone told you that you had another 35 years to live, and that if you stay in California you will die within the next few years? Would you still stay?

spot;1295512 wrote: No, it wasn't an article, it was a Letter.

Earthquakes and Uranus: Misuse of a Statistical Test of Significance is the abstract of the contemporary response.


Was going to ask you a question Spot. Let's say that the economy stays on it's current course, and that it gets even worse as time passes on. And let's say that sometime within the next few months there is a major Earthquake in one of the highly populated cities of California, a major one being 8+. What kind of an impact do you feel that this would have on the United States economy as a whole?

I think it's important to add that Edgar Cayce in my opinion was not the "King of prophecy". No that title for me would go to Jesus Christ. But I would give Cayce his respect by calling him the "Pope of prophecy" for sure. With Nostradamus coming in 3rd place as the "President of prophecy" at the very least.

Now some people would claim that Nostradamus was more accurate and more effective at what he did than Edgar Cayce was. But I would highly disagree. Both were healers and psychics at the same time, but I believe that even Nostradamus would have bowed his head to the abilities of a man like Edgar Cayce.

Those are the 3 champions of prophecy for myself.

Now I am personally a very competitive person. And I respect skill. And someone has to be the winner in a competition. And I can guarantee everybody that Edgar Cayce himself would have picked Jesus as that winner.

John the Baptist was also incredibly perceptive. But I don't think he was quite as gifted in that area as the above 3. Or at least there isn't currently enough documented evidence to prove otherwise.

Jeane Dixon, one of the 20th century's most prominent astrologers and psychics, also claimed that she didn't possess the same tools that Edgar Cayce possessed and wasn't quite as effective as he was at what she did. Although she used other words to say so.

So I just want people to understand that these prophecies aren't coming from your average psychic, they are coming from one of the truly greatest prophets that has ever lived. Ever.

You'll also notice that I use the term psychic's for some people, and prophets for others. Only people like Jesus, Nostradamus, and Edgar Cayce, will I ever consider to be true prophets. Of course there are a handful of people from the Bible who would qualify as well. But most others I will only consider to be psychics. And there are many of them to be found. But there has never been another Nostradamus, or Edgar Cayce, or especially Jesus Christ.

TruthBringer;1295659 wrote: Was going to ask you a question Spot. Let's say that the economy stays on it's current course, and that it gets even worse as time passes on. And let's say that sometime within the next few months there is a major Earthquake in one of the highly populated cities of California, a major one being 8+. What kind of an impact do you feel that this would have on the United States economy as a whole?There have been 17 earthquakes greater than magnitude 7.0 in California in the last 200 years. None have reached magnitude 8 or above. Magnitude 7 and Greater Earthquakes in the United States - I think that suggests a mechanism where tensions are released before 8+ magnitudes are reached.

Extending to the whole of the USA there are 77 earthquake entries greater than magnitude 7.0 in the "Catalog of Damaging Earthquakes in the World" at Utsu-WEQ most of which are in the Aleutians. Some are duplicates where an associated tsunami was recorded.

Four earthquakes in the last 200 years have killed more than 100 people in the United States, two of those were in California. The death toll of the largest, San Francisco 1906 when over 3000 died, were predominantly caused by the subsequent fire. Deaths from U.S. Earthquakes

As for whether there's a long-term economic stimulus from a major earthquake, A tale of 2 cities 20 years after Loma Prieta - SFGate - Page 3 makes interesting reading. Some places yes, some no, apparently:Unemployment in the 56,000-population city is at 8.9 percent, far below California's 12.2 percent. And foreclosures are almost nonexistent, at a rate of 5 per 1,000 homes compared with the state's 23.

"It's better than before, and we're all proud of how it looks," said Larry Pearson, owner of Pacific Cookie Co. and former chairman of Vision Santa Cruz, the community group that conceived the avenue's rebirth. "It was hard to do all this after something as terrible as the earthquake, but we learned that there really is lemonade in those lemons."Rebuilding mops up labor from the otherwise unemployed. The overall annual turnover of businesses in the state is orders of magnitude greater than any earthquake damage could be. The more money put into the hands of consumers locally, the more they'll buy. Rebuilding is a source of income.

spot;1295662 wrote: There have been 17 earthquakes greater than magnitude 7.0 in California in the last 200 years. None have reached magnitude 8 or above. Magnitude 7 and Greater Earthquakes in the United States - I think that suggests a mechanism where tensions are released before 8+ magnitudes are reached.

Extending to the whole of the USA there are 77 earthquake entries greater than magnitude 7.0 in the "Catalog of Damaging Earthquakes in the World" at Utsu-WEQ most of which are in the Aleutians. Some are duplicates where an associated tsunami was recorded.

Four earthquakes in the last 200 years have killed more than 100 people in the United States, two of those were in California. The death toll of the largest, San Francisco 1906 when over 3000 died, were predominantly caused by the subsequent fire. Deaths from U.S. Earthquakes

As for whether there's a long-term economic stimulus from a major earthquake, A tale of 2 cities 20 years after Loma Prieta - SFGate - Page 3 makes interesting reading. Some places yes, some no, apparently:Unemployment in the 56,000-population city is at 8.9 percent, far below California's 12.2 percent. And foreclosures are almost nonexistent, at a rate of 5 per 1,000 homes compared with the state's 23.

"It's better than before, and we're all proud of how it looks," said Larry Pearson, owner of Pacific Cookie Co. and former chairman of Vision Santa Cruz, the community group that conceived the avenue's rebirth. "It was hard to do all this after something as terrible as the earthquake, but we learned that there really is lemonade in those lemons."Rebuilding mops up labor from the otherwise unemployed. The overall annual turnover of businesses in the state is orders of magnitude greater than any earthquake damage could be. The more money put into the hands of consumers locally, the more they'll buy. Rebuilding is a source of income.


Well it was interesting to read your opinion. Thank you for responding.

I threw in a few facts and quotes in the hope that they might form a basis for discussion. Your millennialist catastrophes have an entirely different basis of belief. My problem in accepting them is the lack of any track record for that style of prediction.

spot;1295665 wrote: I threw in a few facts and quotes in the hope that they might form a basis for discussion.


Lol. Of course you did. And that's because you are just as competitive as I am Spot. And that is the primary reason that most of my threads in the general discussion forum turn out to be a back and forth between you and myself.

What you should have also mentioned is your refusal to believe in psychic prophecy whatsoever. You kind of bypassed that and went straight for the track record argument.

TruthBringer;1295667 wrote: What you should have also mentioned is your refusal to believe in psychic prophecy whatsoever. You kind of bypassed that and went straight for the track record argument.


We live in an evidence-based world. All it takes is evidence. Asking for a track record for psychic prophecy is entirely reasonable. We'll have a good go at it at the start of 2013 I expect, since you seem reluctant to join in before then.

spot;1295673 wrote: We live in an evidence-based world. All it takes is evidence. Asking for a track record for psychic prophecy is entirely reasonable. We'll have a good go at it at the start of 2013 I expect, since you seem reluctant to join in before then.


Well just keep in mind that we both agree that 2013 will begin. The difference is in the way that we believe the World will look like when it does.

No, "the way that we believe the World will look like when it does" is and will be subjective. What we'll look at are the events between now and then and compare them with the threads you've posted since you got here.

spot;1295675 wrote: No, "the way that we believe the World will look like when it does" is and will be subjective. What we'll look at are the events between now and then and compare them with the threads you've posted since you got here.


lol. If the internet is still alive and well by then...yes. I don't believe it will be.

spot;1295662 wrote: There have been 17 earthquakes greater than magnitude 7.0 in California in the last 200 years. None have reached magnitude 8 or above. Magnitude 7 and Greater Earthquakes in the United States - I think that suggests a mechanism where tensions are released before 8+ magnitudes are reached.




"You" would have thought this paragraph would have been all that was necessary but I'm obviously wrong and I'm very regretful that I've posted in this thread among others...

When California doesn't experience any earthquakes over the course of what I'd suggest 100 years + time then I would proceed to soil myself profusely with an emphasis to give religion "a go", but fortunately there are quite a number of earthquakes that are released in California at a relatively stable rate. I say "fortunately" because anyone with an ounce of intelligence wouldn't possibly think they could mass evacuate millions of people without seeing their lives devastated first!

K.Snyder;1295866 wrote: "You" would have thought this paragraph would have been all that was necessary but I'm obviously wrong and I'm very regretful that I've posted in this thread among others...

When California doesn't experience any earthquakes over the course of what I'd suggest 100 years + time then I would proceed to soil myself profusely with an emphasis to give religion "a go", but fortunately there are quite a number of earthquakes that are released in California at a relatively stable rate. I say "fortunately" because anyone with an ounce of intelligence wouldn't possibly think they could mass evacuate millions of people without seeing their lives devastated first!


Most definitely. It's just that the right one hasn't struck the right place yet. In the past 100 years that is.

TruthBringer;1295921 wrote: Most definitely. It's just that the right one hasn't struck the right place yet. In the past 100 years that is.


You know why that is correct?

K.Snyder;1295958 wrote: You know why that is correct?


Timing?

TruthBringer;1295982 wrote: Timing?


Yes, and you're about 200 years too late.

Lets continue northward along the west coast now, continuing to try and understand how an acceleration of change in the nature of plate-tectonic activity implied by the Edgar Cayce readings relates to the statement that "Los Angeles, San Francisco, most all of these will be among those that will be destroyed."

Consider Cape Mendocino, California, for example, where three tectonic plates come together in a "triple junction"; the plates in question are the Pacific, Gorda, and North American plates. Some of the highest rates of crustal deformation, surface uplift, and seismic activity in North America occur at this Mendocino triple junction. On April 25-26, 1992, for example, three powerful quakes occurred here, along with 1.4 miles of coastal emergence. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, the main shock of the series "may be the forerunner of a much more powerful, tsunami-generating earthquake in the Pacific Northwest...such an event could cause (great damage due to the ground shaking, and the associated tsunami could devastate the coasts of California, Oregon, Washington, and British Columbia."

In early 1996 scientists detected a major volcanic upheaval at the north end of the sea-floor rift segment known as the Gorda Ridge. This is testimony to the ongoing geologic outpouring of material from the Earth's interior in this subsea region of the Pacific Northwest as heat is transported to the surface in the vicinity of the Gorda Ridge.

The following lines from reading 3976-15 suggest possible catastrophes immediately ahead:

"As to the material changes that are to be as an omen, a sign to those that this is shortly to come to pass - as has been given of old, the sun will be darkened and the Earth shall be broken up in diverse places....and as to the changes physical again: The Earth will be broken up in the western portion of America."

Edgar Cayce

3976-15

R.A. Kerr, in an article in Science (March 14, 1997, p. 1564), says, "New geophysical research shows that the lofty peaks and plateaus of the American West are buoyed up not by the continental crust alone, but also by deeper forces from the Earth's mantle." He goes on to state that the West, floating on hot buoyant mantle beneath, is slowly spreading outward. Because it is hemmed in on most sides by rigid lithospheric plates, it may slowly "be heading for the Pacific Northwest, where plate motions open a small escape hatch."

Now if Edgar Cayce's reading is true, that "upheavals in the interior of the Earth" will lead to rising mantle plumes that will produce changes at the Earth's surface, than an area that could be expected to be among the first to be inlfluenced by such mantle motions would be the western states. The land there is sitting on a pool of hot mantle without the protection of thickened crustal roots formerly thought to underlie the topographic heights of the West. This makes the ground surface of the western states far more subject to deeper mantle motions than if it were underlain by the relatively cool and dense mantle that lies just beneath most continents. And recent work with seismic tomography contributes to a growing body of evidence for mantlewide convective flow. Thus, hot rising mantle from upheavals in the interior of the Earth could play havoc with the western United States.

Among the areas in the West that Edgar Cayce said would react to accelerating mantle motions - "The southern coast of California - and the areas between Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada"...Recent geophysical measurements that permit analysis of slowly changing distances between points on the surface show that the Colorado Plateau is hardly moving. But at Ely, in eastern Nevada, the land is moving westward across the Basin and Range Province. "Sliding from the heights supported by the hot, buoyant mantle", according to Kerr's review. In Utah, the "areas between Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada" lie roughly along the boundary between the Colorado Plateau and the Basin and Range Province. This boundary now appears to be a zone of crustal extension and, if suddenly subjected to accelerated mantle motions, the crust there could experience catastrophic earthquakes and faulting. That is, this part of "the western portion of America" would be broken up.

But how do we explain the breaking up of the southern coast of California by this new model of the mantle and crust of the American West? According to Kerr's research review, the push of land sliding westward from the heights across Nevada's Basin and Range is pushing the crust into the Sierra Nevada and "crunching up the crust along the San Andreas." That's the reverse of the conventional view, which holds that it's the Pacific Plate pushing eastward that shoves up the Coast Ranges along the length of California. However, the stress on the San Andreas and associated faults in southern California would be exacerbated by accelerated mantle movements beneath the western states, leading to breaking up by a crustal-compression mechanism.

The full paragraph of reading 270-35 indicates that we "may expect" significant earthquakes in the western areas just discussed:

"If there are the greater activities in the Vesuvius, or Pelee, then the southern coast of California - and the areas between Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada - may expect, within the three months following same, an inundation by the earthquakes. But these, as we find, are to be more in the Southern than in the Northern Hemisphere."

Edgar Cayce

270-35

January 21st, 1936

California is in for some serious trouble as we approach December 21st, 2012.




Keep up the good work. If you can can continue your daily posts on this very rich subject right up until Dec. 21, 2012, even if you only save one life then its been worth it. Of course several people may impale themselves or put a bullet in their head so technically speaking its feasible you may end up being responsible for more deaths than the amount of californians that fall in the ocean.

Nomad;1296266 wrote: Keep up the good work. If you can can continue your daily posts on this very rich subject right up until Dec. 21, 2012, even if you only save one life then its been worth it. Of course several people may impale themselves or put a bullet in their head so technically speaking its feasible you may end up being responsible for more deaths than the amount of californians that fall in the ocean.


lol. Well, even if not a single person takes my advice and leaves, at least no one can say I didn't do my best to encourage the opposite.

The above Edgar Cayce reading is saying that when the conditions described are met - greater activities in Mts. Vesuvius or Pelee - inundations by Earthquakes will occur in the specified areas of the American west.

But he also goes on to make a point that these "inundations" will be more pronounced in the Southern Hemisphere.

Conventional interpretation of the phrase "an inundation by the earthquakes" has been that it is a figure of speech for "an overwhelming number of earthquakes." But a recent analysis of the Earthquake hazrad in the Salt Lake City area, by two seismologists at the University of Utah, suggests a different interpretation. These researchers modeled land deformation effects of a hypothetical, magnitude 7.2 quake that could be expected to occur on the south Weber segment of the north Salt lake City segment of the Wasatch fault. The seismologists put into their model a "scenario quake" consisting of the same ground-surface deformations that were observed in the M 7.5 1959 Hebgen Lake, Montana, quake that occurred 270 miles north of Salt Lake City. They concluded: "An unusual earthquake hazard....due to possible flooding and inundations by the Great Salt Lake accompanying large normal faulting earthquakes on the Wasatch Fault....Because of the close proximity of the Great Salt Lake to Salt Lake City, we demonstrate that this unappreciated hazard is very important, depending upon the lake level and the location of the scenario earthquake."

TruthBringer;1296268 wrote: lol. Well, even if not a single person takes my advice and leaves, at least no one can say I didn't do my best to encourage the opposite.


You will have done your best but you will still have blood on your hands. I myself am desperately searching for an arsenic supplier source as we speak.

Nomad;1296270 wrote: You will have done your best but you will still have blood on your hands.


I do hope you are joking about this part.....

If someone decides to go kamikaze on themselves that wouldn't be connected to me as far as intention goes anyway.

I am not responsible for someone else's actions. But seriously, if someone is thinking about killing themselves over all this, don't, because you did not create your Life, and therefore you don't have the right to take it. At least in my opinion. Doing so would be a blemish on your Soul. A mark against yourself. A compromising of yourself. And an unwillingness to respect yourself. A selfish act of the highest order.

TruthBringer;1296273 wrote: I do hope you are joking about this part.....



If someone decides to go kamikaze on themselves that wouldn't be connected to me as far as intention goes.


I am joking. Arsenic would be too painful. On second thought if you do post on this topic every day until 2012 Arsenic may be less painful.

I dont know, maybe I could just jump off a building.

No really...Im just being glib. Hows Minnesota, are we going to be ok?

Nomad;1296275 wrote: I am joking. Arsenic would be too painful. On second thought if you do post on this topic every day until 2012 Arsenic may be less painful.

I dont know, maybe I could just jump off a building.

No really...Im just being glib. Hows Minnesota, are we going to be ok?


No worries. This thread is almost over anyways. Then the only thing to worry about is when it falls into oblivion after no one keeps it up front with the ones like Lady Gaga's sexual identity. Unfortunately, that subject gets more interest than this one. And this one deals with a major Life and Death decision. Lady Gaga's testicles or non testicles I guess would give someone a laugh even all the way up to the second before a person's roof falls on them and their family though, killing them instantly. So for that I guess I can sympathize a little bit.

Nomad;1296275 wrote:

No really...Im just being glib. Hows Minnesota, are we going to be ok?


Minnesota should be relatively safe compared to some of the more dangerous areas. The only thing to get used to would be the Great Lakes emptying into the gulf of Mexico. But Minnesota has more than enough lakes to keep their inhabitants occupied with. However, the danger would be that many of these lakes could become stagnant, dirty, and non-drinkable, so it would be up to the people who would more than likely be using them at that point to keep them clean. And there would have to be some type of a system put in place by the locals for doing so.

As long as the lakes are kept clean, Minnesota should be one of the better places to live at that time.

The other thing I have thought of would be an increased mosquito population in that area due to decreased and almost non existent efforts to eradicate them. Which could bring in an increase in diseases such as Malaria.

TruthBringer;1296277 wrote: Minnesota should be relatively safe compared to some of the more dangerous areas. The only thing to get used to would be the Great Lakes emptying into the gulf of Mexico. But Minnesota has more than enough lakes to keep their inhabitants occupied with. However, the danger would be that many of these lakes could become stagnant, dirty, and non-drinkable, so it would be up to the people who would more than likely be using them at that point to keep them clean. And there would have to be some type of a system put in place by the locals for doing so.



As long as the lakes are kept clean, Minnesota should be one of the better places to live at that time.



The other thing I have thought of would be an increased mosquito population in that area due to decreased and almost non existent efforts to eradicate them. Which could bring in an increase in diseases such as Malaria.


Maliathon.

No wait thats counter productive.

Nomad;1296279 wrote: Maliathon.

No wait thats counter productive.


If you are looking for a little "half-time" in between reading, here is an article just posted on yahoo news about a rare 1 in a zillion penguin being found in the Antarctic that is all black as opposed to white and black:

All-black penguin discovered | Yahoo! Green

lol. He's the only one of his kind. He's got that look on his face like, "What?"

TruthBringer;1296280 wrote: If you are looking for a little "half-time" in between reading, here is an article just posted on yahoo news about a rare 1 in a zillion penguin being found in the Antarctic that is all black as opposed to white and black:



All-black penguin discovered | Yahoo! Green



lol. He's the only one of his kind. He's got that look on his face like, "What?"


Ok thats not funny. I often have the same look on my face.