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The Darkness holds a very unique hold on religion, people are actually believers in God, actively worshipping him, but yet doing so in vain, because they are under the masquerading influence of the Darkness. Listen to this incredible teaching from Christ in Matt. 15:9;" In Vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men." Religious men, Pastors, Evangelist, Mega churchs, Theologians, all people who have their own precepts of God, but are being led by the Darkness, as it appears to them as Light. Actually believers, sencere hearted followers of Christ, but not led by Christ, which is what Jesus meant by Vain, its all useless.

Even simple true belief in God, must be " Granted by God." Phil. 1:29. If God has not truly granted the Belief in the mind of the individual, then the Darkness has done it, morphed into the human by demons themselves, who also believe in God, who made them.

A very unique deception, and it has been very well done.

Peace.

I don't think humans realize how powerful God really is. He controls our governments, our family structures, our crime, our advancements, our civilizations, our theologys, our science, our individual lives, ALL this is personally controlled by God. To think that God has rendered control of this to us or the Darkness is insane reasoning. God will have his way, there is absolutely no doubt of this in my mind.

God, and Christ, IS the ultimate Salvation of humans, and NOTHING will stop them from getting their way with us.

NOTHING!

And again I say, although it is unbelieved, we ALL will be with him in the end.

Because thats what he really wants.

Peace.

How Great is the Darkness?

I have found its really Great and powerful! Living in it for so long, it can " Have you", and the years will go by so quick; so meaningless; so deceitful. You think you have lived a good life, then one day you find out just how deceived things have been; YOU have been! Then the darkness sets in, its reality is now opened to your consciousness; you begin to see in this darkness.

You feel its pain; its troubles that you thought you had always avoided, not start hemming you in, eliminating the places you can run to and hide or escape.

Now you can both see and feel, " The Darkness!"

How Great is the Darkness?

How big is the dark side of the moon?

How great is the Darkness within you? Do you even admit to yourself that there is a darkness to you?

Every woman I have had has told me, in one way or another, that I have " A Darkside." And men, I don't know about you, but there is not much better information you can get on yourself, than from a woman who knows you. They know us man!

The Darkside is real, which is just another thing that shows me God must be real; because there is always an oppisite reality! If a darkside exist, then a Light side exist! If bad exist then Good exist. If there is a wrong way, then conversely there must be a right way. If there is a scientific explination for what exist, then there must be a spiritual one.

There are then two common ways; no doubt about it; the Darkness; the Light!

The Darkness in me has represented my weaknesses all my life, and perhaps determined them, with my help of course. The greatest of which has been my addiction to alcohol. No doubt about it; my greatest darkness, my greatest weakness, one of my greatest joys and pleasures. THATS when the darkness can really be great in you, when you love it!

Its really got you then!

Every woman I have had has told me....

Have HAD? What's that mean, exactly?

AnneBoleyn;1433877 wrote: Every woman I have had has told me....

Have HAD? What's that mean, exactly?




Girlfriends in the past. But I am curious, just what did YOU think I meant?

Mickiel;1433879 wrote: Girlfriends in the past. But I am curious, just what did YOU think I meant?


I think it means just what you actually said. Had. You Had them. I wonder if they'd say the same. Doubt it. Women don't talk that way.

AnneBoleyn;1433882 wrote: I think it means just what you actually said. Had. You Had them. I wonder if they'd say the same. Doubt it. Women don't talk that way.




Oh I had them, and don't have them now; had- past tense; and thats all I meant by that, but your womans point of view is relevant.

Mickiel;1433884 wrote: Oh I had them, and don't have them now; had- past tense; and thats all I meant by that, but your womans point of view is relevant.




When people scrap the bottom of the barrell trying to find fault in you, that shows frustrations with you they are having. Not that I don't understand them trying that, I do understand; and fault in me is easy to find, because its a lot there. When I brought up women I had, meaning relationships I have experienced, I did so in a way that showed I valued a womans view of me; and yet a woman here has tried to distort what I meant by what I said.

I already know what I said and meant; and I already know why the woman sought to distort it. It is transparent and I saw right through it.

Mickiel;1433922 wrote: When people scrap the bottom of the barrell trying to find fault in you, that shows frustrations with you they are having. Not that I don't understand them trying that, I do understand; and fault in me is easy to find, because its a lot there. When I brought up women I had, meaning relationships I have experienced, I did so in a way that showed I valued a womans view of me; and yet a woman here has tried to distort what I meant by what I said.



I already know what I said and meant; and I already know why the woman sought to distort it. It is transparent and I saw right through it.


What I put in bold? That's why you had & don't have.

AnneBoleyn;1433941 wrote: What I put in bold? That's why you had & don't have.


It has nothing to do whatsoever why I don't have the women I had; I left each one for differing reasons, and to this day have never had a woman to leave me. And I have a woman now, we are going into our 11th year together. You have made several errors in judgement concerning me; yet I understand why? And why you need to do that.

Just making conversation.

AnneBoleyn;1433956 wrote: Just making conversation.




Well at least that I am open to; I even accepted your suggestion to post a thread other than talking about God, which I did not have to do. Its in the Philosophy section; entitled, " Was Primordial man Conscious?" Something which interest me.

Mickiel;1433958 wrote: Well at least that I am open to; I even accepted your suggestion to post a thread other than talking about God, which I did not have to do. Its in the Philosophy section; entitled, " Was Primordial man Conscious?" Something which interest me.Yeah, but you're not a consistent vote for the Rock Off thread.

Ahso!;1433995 wrote: Yeah, but you're not a consistent vote for the Rock Off thread.


I lost interest. Too many other threads on my mind; here and at too many other sites.

Is the darkness just a situation to be in? NO! Is it just a way of life? NO! Is it personified in a living being? YES!

It has a leader!

satan is the leader of the darkness; its curator; its caretaker; its energizer.

He is the darkness; his mind develops the ways and means of the darkness. His talent is dark deception; deception that is so well developed, that humans cannot even recognize it is deception;

and that is what happened to religion; it got pimped by the darkness which dressed up as the light!

How can you know God, and not know his enemy?

The good, the bad and the ugly are all in the darkness. It can be a heavy confusing mixture.

Because the good in there, is a perversion of good.

The darkness can keep you company when your lonely; it will baby sit you; thats how great it is.

The darkness has group representation; but those groups don't know they are in the dark; they think they are in the light.

The darkness follows me for sure; gets to me at times, and does not want to release me from its sites.

Its there, and it lets me know it is there; and I have to fight it every day of my life; and it gets tiresome.

I often wonder just how Jesus created this darkness; and how he did it in a manner that could never affect himself?

Mickiel;1220116 wrote: One of my most frustrating experiences in my life has been the way God has ignored my request to him to have a relationship with him. His refusal to give me his Spirit, and the way he has left me to the Darkness. This has been regretable, but yet true in my experience with God. The reason I do not know God, is because of the Darkness. I didn't even know what the Darkness was until a few years ago. Last year I was able to see it as it is, and only this year was I able to admit that my life is envolped by it. It is very, very hard to come to the point of knowing that you are in the Darkness, and that you can do nothing about it.

In Matthews 6:23, Jesus makes an interesting observation;"But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of the Darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is Darkness, How Great is the Darkness!" By this he meant that we are led by the " Light in our Minds", or the leading influence that we follow." So if the leading influence in your mind is the Darkness, then although it sounds contridictionary, the Darkness is your Light. Its what is leading you. He then states;" How Great is the Darkness! And believe me, this Darkness is indeed Great. Its a Great powerful influence.

And I want to give an inside out view of this Darkness.

Peace.


This is kind of like what ive been through. People like to live in safe little boxes and just believe without any real reason because they are afraid of what they dont understand. Religion teaches us that darkness is to be avoided...however I have found that the only way to see the light is in the dark!

Truth is in the dark. You cant see the light if your in it. You cant understand the light if your in it. You have no concept of light if your in it. You can only understand the light by being in the dark. You can only understand the concept of light by being outside it. Those in the dark understand the light better then the ones in it.

Oblivion4463;1436506 wrote: This is kind of like what ive been through. People like to live in safe little boxes and just believe without any real reason because they are afraid of what they dont understand. Religion teaches us that darkness is to be avoided...however I have found that the only way to see the light is in the dark!

Truth is in the dark. You cant see the light if your in it. You cant understand the light if your in it. You have no concept of light if your in it. You can only understand the light by being in the dark. You can only understand the concept of light by being outside it. Those in the dark understand the light better then the ones in it.




I agree with most of that, but I disagree with the statement that those in the dark understand better than those in the light; if they are in Gods light, then they understand better.

Mickiel;1436509 wrote: I agree with most of that, but I disagree with the statement that those in the dark understand better than those in the light; if they are in Gods light, then they understand better.


But how can you know gods light if you have been...taught...the word of god? You cant teach the word of god, you have to live life to know it on your own. Part of living it is to know darkness side of things. The ones that fight the storms head on are the ones that know the storm better then the ones who have not known the storm and have only been taught about it.

Those that know the darkness know what to look for in what is true light and what is false. Point being...its better to look for someone in a crowd by over looking a crowd of people instead of look for that same person while being down in the crowd. Being in the light has a narrow view of light itself, being outside of light has a bigger perspective of what light is.

Oblivion4463;1436564 wrote: But how can you know gods light if you have been...taught...the word of god? You cant teach the word of god, you have to live life to know it on your own. Part of living it is to know darkness side of things. The ones that fight the storms head on are the ones that know the storm better then the ones who have not known the storm and have only been taught about it.

Those that know the darkness know what to look for in what is true light and what is false. Point being...its better to look for someone in a crowd by over looking a crowd of people instead of look for that same person while being down in the crowd. Being in the light has a narrow view of light itself, being outside of light has a bigger perspective of what light is.


So how long are you going to keep talking to me? Is this going to take long?

Mickiel;1436567 wrote: So how long are you going to keep talking to me? Is this going to take long?


I dont know, you and i seem to be the only ones here lol.

How great is the darkness when it can envolpe whole religions and become their light? Become their god; become their doctrines; become their leading influence?

How great is the Darkness?

The darkness is so great, that we are unaware of its total manipulation of humanity. The ultimate blindspots it has installed; the uncanny traps it has set and we have lived in for centuries.

The darkness is so great, its got us killing each other.

The darkness is so great, it can make the truth a lie, and a lie the truth.

The darkness loves politics and religion, and is all in it! Its made a living off of religion and politics; and is basically the power behind both!

And NO politics or religion on earth is excluded from this; bar NONE!

The darkness is so great, it has groups working for it, who don't even know their emlisted. A seductive power, it latches onto the human consciousness in an unseen manner and does its incredible work. It fits into the human, like a human hand does into a glove; and it adheres to their consciousness; becoming a unique intergeral part of them.

A willow wisp; a ghost; a deciding factor of influence. A well hidden camoflauge.

I can see the will of the darkness, as it rears its unique head even here at this site; its dispise for certain people, and its control of others. The Darkness is a trip; its hidden influence, but yet its aware that you are aware of it, if you are; it knows! And it dispises you for knowing.

It knows it has some grip on you, but it covets more of you.

When one is lost in the darkness, the glow of his own delusions offer hope.

LarsMac;1444788 wrote: When one is lost in the darkness, the glow of his own delusions offer hope.




I have no glow; yet I am curious as to why you are attracted; perhaps you can explain yourself.

Mickiel;1444790 wrote: I have no glow; yet I am curious as to why you are attracted; perhaps you can explain yourself.


Attracted to what?

And, as a wise man once said, If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand.

Why do you take what I said personal?

LarsMac;1444792 wrote: Attracted to what?

And, as a wise man once said, If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand.

Why do you take what I said personal?




Attracted to what I have to say in this thread. You imply that I have delusions, yet your reading those delusions; I don't understand that contridiction; if I am deluded, why are you reading what I have to say?

Even more, I take this personal, then you ask me why, as if you want me to take it impersonal?

The darkness is here; it was here before we were. It knows far more than we do.

Mickiel;1444794 wrote: Attracted to what I have to say in this thread. You imply that I have delusions, yet your reading those delusions; I don't understand that contridiction; if I am deluded, why are you reading what I have to say?

Even more, I take this personal, then you ask me why, as if you want me to take it impersonal?


The post I made was simply an idea that came to me, as I was reading your comments.

(By the way, I was not attracted specifically to this thread. It simply appears on a list of threads which have new posts. I tend to browse that list to see if there is anything interesting in them.)

Perhaps we should explore why such a random thought disturbs you.

And I am intrigued by your giving personality to what you call darkness.

Darkness is simply a lack of light.

LarsMac;1445483 wrote: The post I made was simply an idea that came to me, as I was reading your comments.

(By the way, I was not attracted specifically to this thread. It simply appears on a list of threads which have new posts. I tend to browse that list to see if there is anything interesting in them.)Quote

I don't believe you, you have read my threads before, they are not random to your awareness of me; that is illusion.



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And I am intrigued by your giving personality to what you call darkness.

Darkness is simply a lack of light.


Yes, its a personality or a personage with a lack of light. And it can also be simply a klack of light; you are just aware of one of these realities. And thats how good the personage of darkness is, it has made itself unknown and convinced many that it does not exist.

I am no longer intrigued by the human gulibility to this.

How great is the Darkness? Well if something has the power to get inside your head, how great is that? If it can make you do anything it wants, how great is that?