Accountable;1226250 wrote: :yh_youkidYou're crazy.
It says a lot that you're so readily prepared to trivialise the discussion areas of ForumGarden with posts like these.
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spot;1226194 wrote: I was, I thought, commenting on Accountable's puerile "Kim Jung Mentally Ill" gibe. Pay better attention.
I know. I interjected an imbecilic fleeting thought that raced through my mind. Afterwards I cleaned out the cat litter box and now Im moving on to sending Rush Limbaugh some more hate mail. My days are filled with trivial pursuits.
I know. I interjected an imbecilic fleeting thought that raced through my mind. Afterwards I cleaned out the cat litter box and now Im moving on to sending Rush Limbaugh some more hate mail. My days are filled with trivial pursuits.
I AM AWESOME MAN
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Nomad;1226264 wrote: I know.
You know, I knew you ought to have known.
You know, I knew you ought to have known.
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Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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Two more incursions across the border, it seems a popular pastime.
I have a suspicion that life in North Korea is less onerous than Western propaganda makes out. I also wonder what would happen to a citizen of North Korea if he were apprehended having illegally crossed into the USA across the Canadian border.
North Korea says it has detained a US citizen for illegally entering its territory across the border from China.
The official news agency KCNA said the man, who has not been identified, had been arrested on Monday and was now being questioned.
North Korea is currently holding another US citizen, Robert Park.
Mr Park crossed a frozen border river from China on 25 December, to make a protest against repression in the hard-line Communist North.
BBC News - US man 'detained' in North Korea
I have a suspicion that life in North Korea is less onerous than Western propaganda makes out. I also wonder what would happen to a citizen of North Korea if he were apprehended having illegally crossed into the USA across the Canadian border.
North Korea says it has detained a US citizen for illegally entering its territory across the border from China.
The official news agency KCNA said the man, who has not been identified, had been arrested on Monday and was now being questioned.
North Korea is currently holding another US citizen, Robert Park.
Mr Park crossed a frozen border river from China on 25 December, to make a protest against repression in the hard-line Communist North.
BBC News - US man 'detained' in North Korea
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1286048 wrote: Two more incursions across the border, it seems a popular pastime.
I have a suspicion that life in North Korea is less onerous than Western propaganda makes out. I also wonder what would happen to a citizen of North Korea if he were apprehended having illegally crossed into the USA across the Canadian border.
North Korea says it has detained a US citizen for illegally entering its territory across the border from China.
The official news agency KCNA said the man, who has not been identified, had been arrested on Monday and was now being questioned.
North Korea is currently holding another US citizen, Robert Park.
Mr Park crossed a frozen border river from China on 25 December, to make a protest against repression in the hard-line Communist North.
BBC News - US man 'detained' in North Korea
What are you suggesting would happen?
I suppose it would depend on if it was military personnel, it would be worse than if it was a normal N. Korean citizen.
I suspect the same things that might happen if caught crossing into the USA would be no different than what might happen if caught crossing any number of countries around the world.
I have a suspicion that life in North Korea is less onerous than Western propaganda makes out. I also wonder what would happen to a citizen of North Korea if he were apprehended having illegally crossed into the USA across the Canadian border.
North Korea says it has detained a US citizen for illegally entering its territory across the border from China.
The official news agency KCNA said the man, who has not been identified, had been arrested on Monday and was now being questioned.
North Korea is currently holding another US citizen, Robert Park.
Mr Park crossed a frozen border river from China on 25 December, to make a protest against repression in the hard-line Communist North.
BBC News - US man 'detained' in North Korea
What are you suggesting would happen?
I suppose it would depend on if it was military personnel, it would be worse than if it was a normal N. Korean citizen.
I suspect the same things that might happen if caught crossing into the USA would be no different than what might happen if caught crossing any number of countries around the world.
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YZGI;1286082 wrote: What are you suggesting would happen?That he would be apprehended and held in custody by US law enforcement for rather longer than four months' questioning. Do tell me if you think I'm expressing an unlikely conclusion.
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1286101 wrote: That he would be apprehended and held in custody by US law enforcement for rather longer than four months' questioning. Do tell me if you think I'm expressing an unlikely conclusion.
I think it would depend on the circumstances to begin with.
What do you suppose would happen to them if they were caught illegally entering Germany, England, Saudi, Australia, etc. etc.?
I think it would depend on the circumstances to begin with.
What do you suppose would happen to them if they were caught illegally entering Germany, England, Saudi, Australia, etc. etc.?
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YZGI;1286107 wrote: I think it would depend on the circumstances to begin with.
What do you suppose would happen to them if they were caught illegally entering Germany, England, Saudi, Australia, etc. etc.?
No more and no less than happens in North Korea, that being the point I started with.
What do you suppose would happen to them if they were caught illegally entering Germany, England, Saudi, Australia, etc. etc.?
No more and no less than happens in North Korea, that being the point I started with.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1286110 wrote: No more and no less than happens in North Korea, that being the point I started with.
I see, I mis interpreted the post. Sorry.
I see, I mis interpreted the post. Sorry.
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YZGI;1286115 wrote: I see, I mis interpreted the post. Sorry.
Not entirely - I did say I wondered. The CIA does, after all, use extraordinary rendition of detainees to countries where they can be tortured by non-US nationals, answering questions set by Western intelligence agencies. Depending on why he crossed the US border and who sent him I can easily imagine this hypothetical North Korean ending up in that system. Waterboarding by CIA employees might now be illegal but I don't think, for example, the Egyptian security services are bound by such ethical considerations.
Not entirely - I did say I wondered. The CIA does, after all, use extraordinary rendition of detainees to countries where they can be tortured by non-US nationals, answering questions set by Western intelligence agencies. Depending on why he crossed the US border and who sent him I can easily imagine this hypothetical North Korean ending up in that system. Waterboarding by CIA employees might now be illegal but I don't think, for example, the Egyptian security services are bound by such ethical considerations.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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YZGI;1286107 wrote: I think it would depend on the circumstances to begin with.
What do you suppose would happen to them if they were caught illegally entering Germany, England, Saudi, Australia, etc. etc.?
Here we go - six weeks between offence and release. Not bad.
BBC News - Freed US missionary Robert Park leaves North Korea
So - compare with my hypothetical religious fanatic (as this guy was) from within The Axis of Evil, actively avoiding detection and entering the US by way of a closed land border. You think they'd be out and free after just six weeks? I doubt it, personally.
What do you suppose would happen to them if they were caught illegally entering Germany, England, Saudi, Australia, etc. etc.?
Here we go - six weeks between offence and release. Not bad.
BBC News - Freed US missionary Robert Park leaves North Korea
So - compare with my hypothetical religious fanatic (as this guy was) from within The Axis of Evil, actively avoiding detection and entering the US by way of a closed land border. You think they'd be out and free after just six weeks? I doubt it, personally.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot: All too often your overload hits my uncertainty. But I don't think you are comparing like with like. North Korea - the Beloved Leader. Fuhrerprinzip by another name. Don't trust the boggers at all. Americans - they generally mean well - heck, as a people they are the most generous you could hope to meet! Bits of their government are arrogant, stupid and complacent. Same can be said of ANY democratic system. It does distress to watch them make exactly the same mistakes as the British Empire did (and more), and the increased speed of time these days means there is less time to recover from those mistakes...
But ambitious journos risking their lives and liberty is what Western Journalism is about - much as our tabloid winkers disprove my point. I'm glad to see two of them risk it, and I hope they are home soon.
But ambitious journos risking their lives and liberty is what Western Journalism is about - much as our tabloid winkers disprove my point. I'm glad to see two of them risk it, and I hope they are home soon.
The crowd: "Yes! We are all individuals!"
Lone voice: "I'm not."
Lone voice: "I'm not."
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Clodhopper;1289045 wrote: spot: All too often your overload hits my uncertainty. But I don't think you are comparing like with like. North Korea - the Beloved Leader. Fuhrerprinzip by another name. Don't trust the boggers at all.
Agreed. Totalitarianism makes them dangerous and international isolation makes them crazy. A bad combination.
Americans - they generally mean well - heck, as a people they are the most generous you could hope to meet!
Awwww.... Thanks Clodhopper. That was very nice of you. (Saint looks down and idly kicks at the sand at his feet.):o
Bits of their government are arrogant, stupid and complacent.
Ummm... heh heh. Yup. Sorry 'bout that.
It does distress to watch them make exactly the same mistakes as the British Empire did (and more), and the increased speed of time these days means there is less time to recover from those mistakes...
Fascinating. Mistakes like.....
But ambitious journos risking their lives and liberty is what Western Journalism is about - much as our tabloid winkers disprove my point. I'm glad to see two of them risk it, and I hope they are home soon.
Very true!
Agreed. Totalitarianism makes them dangerous and international isolation makes them crazy. A bad combination.
Americans - they generally mean well - heck, as a people they are the most generous you could hope to meet!
Awwww.... Thanks Clodhopper. That was very nice of you. (Saint looks down and idly kicks at the sand at his feet.):o
Bits of their government are arrogant, stupid and complacent.
Ummm... heh heh. Yup. Sorry 'bout that.
It does distress to watch them make exactly the same mistakes as the British Empire did (and more), and the increased speed of time these days means there is less time to recover from those mistakes...
Fascinating. Mistakes like.....
But ambitious journos risking their lives and liberty is what Western Journalism is about - much as our tabloid winkers disprove my point. I'm glad to see two of them risk it, and I hope they are home soon.
Very true!
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Fascinating. Mistakes like.....
Gunboat diplomacy. (eg China for Brits, Middle East for the USA)
Assumption that because you are so powerful, you are always right. (Generally true for both!)
Refusal to listen to allies and tendency to downplay their contribution. (eg Brits in Napoleonic Wars; USA in WW2)
No concept of "hearts and minds". (Something the Brits developed through Empire. Because the American Empire is purely economic you don't seem to have picked up on it.)
Gunboat diplomacy. (eg China for Brits, Middle East for the USA)
Assumption that because you are so powerful, you are always right. (Generally true for both!)
Refusal to listen to allies and tendency to downplay their contribution. (eg Brits in Napoleonic Wars; USA in WW2)
No concept of "hearts and minds". (Something the Brits developed through Empire. Because the American Empire is purely economic you don't seem to have picked up on it.)
The crowd: "Yes! We are all individuals!"
Lone voice: "I'm not."
Lone voice: "I'm not."