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A stunning, fantastic, wonderful, fabulous, splendid ,new CHINA!

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:19 am
by Kathy Ellen
spot;955492 wrote: They've done a great job, your country's flying high. I'm impressed that you've not only built the Olympics - I hope we can manage to impress next time in our own understated way - you've also got an economy with an exciting future.



What I'm interested in, if you have the time, is to explore the content of the Chinese History lessons you did at school since you've brought up the subject of, for example, the Opium Wars earlier. This isn't the thread to do it in but if you start one on Chinese History from the material you covered I'd be pleased to join you in it.


Me too, Spot....I think that would be so interesting:-6

A stunning, fantastic, wonderful, fabulous, splendid ,new CHINA!

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:54 pm
by Richard Bell
SuperPowerChina;955481 wrote: you may ask why we love such an evil party? )


No, I wouldn't need to ask that question.

Fact is, it's the only show in town.

I agree, China has made enormous strides, but it is worrying that those strides have been made at great expense to the environment and human rights.

Furthermore, a twenty year old raised in a totalitarian society lecturing elders who were reared in democracies on the ways of the world is risible, to say the least.

A stunning, fantastic, wonderful, fabulous, splendid ,new CHINA!

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:50 pm
by spot
Richard Bell;956663 wrote: China has made enormous strides, but it is worrying that those strides have been made at great expense to the environment and human rights.I think it's reasonable to say that human rights in China have taken a huge step forward since the Communists threw out the Koumintang and brought some welcome organization to the country. As for the state of the environment, what country hasn't gone through the same difficulties during industrialization?

A stunning, fantastic, wonderful, fabulous, splendid ,new CHINA!

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:50 pm
by Galbally
spot;956675 wrote: I think it's reasonable to say that human rights in China have taken a huge step forward since the Communists threw out the Koumintang and brought some welcome organization to the country. As for the state of the environment, what country hasn't gone through the same difficulties during industrialization?


Yes, with the cultural revolution obviously being a high point for Chinese intellectual freedom. Okay, aside from the sarcasm, there has been massive achievement in China, and millions of ordinary chinese have been lifted from poverty into better lives, that is a extraordinary achievement, but there have also been terrible human and environmental consequences, (just like in all rapidly developing countries), so lets not be too starry eyed about it old boy. Also of course, it is politicially speaking, a somewhat paranoid totalitarian dictatorship, though a relatively benign one and certainly progressive on several issues. The next decade or two will say a lot about how China intends to use the power it has gained, particiularly in its relationships with the rest of SE Asia.

A stunning, fantastic, wonderful, fabulous, splendid ,new CHINA!

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:53 pm
by spot
How China intends to use the power it has gained? I've given up on NASA, I want to see permanent Moon bases manufacturing local resources, I'd be grateful if the Chinese would arrange a few.

I made my comment in the context of Richard's "great expense of human rights". Compare what was happening in that regard before 1949 when the Party took control and today, I can't see any other sensible dates to pick on.

A stunning, fantastic, wonderful, fabulous, splendid ,new CHINA!

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:46 pm
by mikeinie
At the end of the day, they only have 1 less political party than the USA.

Think about it:-3