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grecianurn;900367 wrote: I vote Mr Galbally president of Niceland.

(Where I work, we "collect" people to inhabit "Niceland" - as you can imagine, we have few inhabitants so far ...)


Thats cool, can we call it "Galbania" I will have a big palace or something like that, nah, only messing, I will just have a shed with a flag on it.

Before Sunset;900507 wrote: If the world really is up a creek, then the only thing that would make it bearable would be to have friends to help you through the tough times. There are some things we don't have any control over, but that is one that we do.

(And I second your nomination as president of Niceland.)


Oh we are the authors of our own problems, I am not very materialistic when it really comes down to it (not particularly anyway), so I am not that perturbed, in fact I kinda miss the old Ireland, and feel a bit uncomfortable in this shiny modern one we have now. As to what Ireland is going to do, I have no idea, but I am reckoning that the country is going to have extremely hard times for a while, like most western countries. Our wasteful years of borrowing and spending like there was no tomorrow are going to catch up with us, I just hope that the government doesn't mess up my research grant.

As for me being President, I agree, but the country is Galbania now. Hail me. :-6

K.Snyder;900747 wrote: You seem to emphasis more on the ego of the powerful whereas myself think the world is much too greedy for it's own good...

I would have to say both is the problem...As far as one being more than the other I really wouldn't hold an argument...The fact of the matter is is that people have no integrity...At least that's my observation...


Oh I agree that essentially the problem, and the solution, is always the same, human nature. As Shakespeare said "The fault dear Brutus lies not in our stars, but in ourselves". I think some people have a lot of real or perhaps self-imagined integrity, but usually peoples ideas about themselves are not tested very hard, and most people would fail in the end having to face very difficult things, because we are only human, and thats the essence of human nature.

The general problem, is that life is very hard, and very short, and most people are just trying to live through it, they are not overly concerned with making anything new happen, as its hard enough to just reproduce and see them through to adulthood. Only certain people are inclined toward thinking about the wider things around us, and not all of those people are particularly nice either.

But although people are devious, immoral, self-decieving, self-serving, and easily fooled by glamour, and generally believe in what they can get; people can also be noble, brave, self-sacraficing, loving, smart as buttons, and care deeply about things. This is the paradox of what it means to be a human being, we are blank slates, but time chalks us up, and eventually we become what our experience and decisions have been. Thats my perspective.



But one thing I do know, if all you live for is money, then your life will never be rich.

Galbally;900883 wrote:

But although people are devious, immoral, self-decieving, self-serving, and easily fooled by glamour, and generally believe in what they can get; people can also be noble, brave, self-sacraficing, loving, smart as buttons, and care deeply about things.


Do you mean this as in the same people or that it's not exactly unrealistic to assume that the world is equally divided by the two?...

K.Snyder;900992 wrote: Do you mean this as in the same people or that it's not exactly unrealistic to assume that the world is equally divided by the two?...


I think all people have the capacity for great good or great evil inside them, most chose to stay in the middle somewhere, as its usually the wisest choice if you want to get by. Its the decisions you make along the way that will decide what way your life will ultimately go, and what you do with it, but your decisions will be set by events. So if you live in a peaceful time of plenty its easy to choose to do good things, if you are born into a warzone where all around you is going crazy, its not quite so easy to make "moral" choices, as the circumstances will be very different.

Galbally;901300 wrote: I think all people have the capacity for great good or great evil inside them, most chose to stay in the middle somewhere, as its usually the wisest choice if you want to get by. Its the decisions you make along the way that will decide what way your life will ultimately go, and what you do with it, but your decisions will be set by events. So if you live in a peaceful time of plenty its easy to choose to do good things, if you are born into a warzone where all around you is going crazy, its not quite so easy to make "moral" choices, as the circumstances will be very different.


But do you feel that moral people can make immoral decisions?...One may shoot another fearing he is the enemy but isn't and upon this person realizing his mistake will most likely feel terrible...But that's not to say he's a bad person...Is it forgivable?...And when this happens all too often it can lull the public into a false state of security until they realize their precious family value centered government has turned into a greedy self righteous business oriented state hell bent on fascism...

As if multiplication is the source of all evil...I don't think it's ever been a question of change...Rather a question to stop the bleeding...

K.Snyder;901304 wrote: But do you feel that moral people can make immoral decisions?...One may shoot another fearing he is the enemy but isn't and upon this person realizing his mistake will most likely feel terrible...But that's not to say he's a bad person...Is it forgivable?...And when this happens all too often it can lull the public into a false state of security until they realize their precious family value centered government has turned into a greedy self righteous business oriented state hell bent on fascism...

As if multiplication is the source of all evil...I don't think it's ever been a question of change...Rather a question to stop the bleeding...


These are large questions, and I am not qualified to answer them. Each man and woman must look at the world honestly and make their choices. But things will happen come what may. Sometimes you have a choice, sometimes you have none, but thats why when (and if) you are lucky enough to be in a position to choose a course of action, you must make your choices wisely, as their are repercussions for all decisions.

Galbally;901382 wrote: These are large questions, and I am not qualified to answer them. Each man and woman must look at the world honestly and make their choices. But things will happen come what may. Sometimes you have a choice, sometimes you have none, but thats why when (and if) you are lucky enough to be in a position to choose a course of action, you must make your choices wisely, as their are repercussions for all decisions.


I agree...The conscience can be a fierce thing...