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Jester;743960 wrote: I think many folks hold many beliefs that are sincere and in good faith but the beliefs are wrong. Others believe the same about me and are just as arrogant in their beliefs. but what Ive noticed is that if your a Christian and you speak your view you get slammed for it. If your Islamic even though many are militant and extreme you get protected under freedom of speech. Yet the Islamist is expressly intent on denouncing Christinaity as a lie.

I'm not going to change what the bible says to suit others, I will change my life to suit the biblical imperitives and follow along and at the same time, where and when approiate, express the truth of it. It is always for the hearer to decide if they belive or not.

It's not like I'm saying 'believe what I tell you or I'll cut your head off', is it?


The vast majority of Christians and Muslims speak of their religion without let or hinderence. Where fundamentalists of either side speak their intolerance then they are rightly criticised and, in both cases, their right to speak is protected by Freedom of Speech.

You say that the Islamist is expressly intent on denouncing Christianity as a lie but have you not spent the last several months on here denouncing Islam as a lie. No-one has denied you your freedom of speech?

gmc;744220 wrote: To continue the analogy. (which I thought was quite a good one) If you're colour blind and just see an off white tower and someone else sees it as blue does it change the fact that it is a tower and immutable? The basic nature is the same so why does it matter what colour somebody sees it as? Going to war over the colour scheme is a bit silly.

I would put it to you that you can't change the nature of the tower and those who see different colours are still seeing the same tower and just appreciate it in a different way. Those who would impose their own colour scheme and insist it is painted the way they want kind of miss the point as the tower will remain the same in essence and the colour scheme doesn't really matter and to allow your self to get sucked in to a dispute about what is the correct colour is lunacy.

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Since you all believe god exists why not just enjoy that belief stop worrying what someone else believes.


A wonderful analogy but I would take it one stage further. If your tribe is congenitally colour blind you would all agree that it was grey. The tribe next door is congenitally tone deaf and agrees that the beautiful music you hear coming from the tower is a monotone. Does it make sense to go to war because the tower is sending its message to each tribe differently.

Accept the message as it comes to you - do not condemn others because they perceive it differently.

Bryn Mawr:-6

Right on.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Jester;746275 wrote: Ah I have been free to speak but one still has to be careful what one says, even here.

You are correct though, I have been free to speak, but I am taking it on the chin for it!


Asked to justify it certainly.

Whatever, may you and yours have the best of Christmases and a wonderful 2008 :-6

Ok I did it.

I patented God.

U.S. Patent # 377001000

I hope the dough starts rolling in now.

Nomad;746924 wrote: Ok I did it.

I patented God.

U.S. Patent # 377001000

I hope the dough starts rolling in now.


That's not fair...

theia;746935 wrote: That's not fair...


You know whats not fair ? My Christmas present thats what. Everyone else got gold bars and jewels. You know what I got ?

Coal.

Coal and grass.

Dont talk to me about fair sister !

:wah:

This is a good thread. I'll contribute after I put a few thoughts together.