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YZGI;733003 wrote: 1 out of 3 aint so bad..:wah:


Don't worry, we know what you think of us

England: Cheerful cap-doffing Cockneys in a foggy town owned by the Queen that is surrounded by moors with evil locals and werewolves.

Ireland: A misty hilly little island about 13 miles long populated by Leprechauns and Alcoholic peasants being chased around by Redcoats.

Scotand: Willam Wallace World, a theme park that is 15 minutes from Trafalgar Square.

Wales: Sorry we haven't heard of that place, is it in London?
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spot;732966 wrote: Hmm. Lesser Britain's the name of the whole island of Ireland, I think, in contrast to the bigger island that's Great Britain. We could try checking if that helps.


I'm only quoting from La Mort D'Arthur which points directly at Brittany as Less Britain.

Try googling the name and see where it takes you :-)
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Galbally;733027 wrote: Don't worry, we know what you think of us



England: Cheerful cap-doffing Cockneys in a foggy town owned by the Queen that is surrounded by moors with evil locals and werewolves.



Ireland: A misty hilly little island about 13 miles long populated by Leprechauns and Alcoholic peasants being chased around by Redcoats.



Scotand: Willam Wallace World, a theme park that is 15 minutes from Trafalgar Square.



Wales: Sorry we haven't heard of that place, is it in London?
:wah: And you all have funny accents..:wah:
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YZGI;733034 wrote: :wah: And you all have funny accents..:wah:


Aye soir, shure and begod whe have de normail accshents, tis yourshelves over dhere in H'americae dhat have dhe fhunny accshents. :)
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Galbally;732942 wrote: The thing about using "Eire"is that for a long time the British Government wouldn't use the "Republic of Ireland" as they were kinda unilaterally p*ssed off that we had declared ourselves a Republic and left the Commonwealth without telling them first, and they objected to the name as they thought it implies that all of Ireland is a Republic when of course 6 Northern Irish counties are still in the UK. Therefore they used the Gaelic form of Eire, and obviously if we use the English name, why can't the British Government? So there was always a little bit of an insult when that term "Eire" was used officially, as its up to us what the politcally correct name for our country is, not the British Foreign Office, do you see what I am getting at here? That may seem like a small thing, but small things count in things like this. Don't worry though, its all grist for the mill. :rolleyes:


I didn't know I always thought it was the Irish that called it eire.
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gmc;733443 wrote: I didn't know I always thought it was the Irish that called it eire.


There you go, who said FG wasn't educational! :) Do Scots ever refer to Scotland as "Alba"? Talking about the little things that people get hung up on, I have seen it sometimes on the Reg of UK cars, also interesting the number plate thing, Brits generally don't like using the EU plates like everywhere else (no surprises there then), but the Scots do quite a bit, and the Welsh cars you see it on sometimes, is that like a little prod at the English or something?
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Galbally;733479 wrote: There you go, who said FG wasn't educational! :) Do Scots ever refer to Scotland as "Alba"? Talking about the little things that people get hung up on, I have seen it sometimes on the Reg of UK cars, also interesting the number plate thing, Brits generally don't like using the EU plates like everywhere else (no surprises there then), but the Scots do quite a bit, and the Welsh cars you see it on sometimes, is that like a little prod at the English or something?


No they don't generally, apart from some of the more nationalistic teuchters. Generally scots are a bit better disposed to the EU than the English. Many are all too well aware what the regional development fund has done. Especially in the highlands where a lot of the infrastructure and industrial estates that are now booming were EU funded. Also generally alienated from Westminster so being ruled from brussels can't be any worse than rule from london. maggie and the poll tax probably did more for the SNP than anything they did themselves. Unionist sentiment is probably strongest in Northern Ireland

I reckon new labour have almost burned their boats in scotland, looks like Blair's legacy will be the Iraq war and the destruction of Labour as a viable political party in the UK.
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gmc;733443 wrote: I didn't know I always thought it was the Irish that called it eire.


my sis-in-law in Ireland always puts Eire at the end of their address on envelopes. :thinking: And it says Eire on the stamps too...:yh_think
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sunny104;733787 wrote: my sis-in-law in Ireland always puts Eire at the end of their address on envelopes. :thinking: And it says Eire on the stamps too...:yh_think


Really, well that just proves everything I have said is completely wrong then. :wah: But yes, on the money, on the stamps, and sometimes I guess people use Eire themselves (though its kinda more an older generation thing, I don't say Eire, and not many people I know do we are more used to the Republic of Ireland name), but this is kinda difficult to explain, its not so much that the UK Governemnt use Eire, or the Irish Republic (thats another one), its the fact that they wouldn't use "Republic of Ireland" for a long time, we notice these things you see, and we used to be very prickly about things like this because of the colonial history etc etc.

I dunno if you guys have a similar thing over there, I think some Canadians sometimes get annoyed that the shorthand for the USA is America and Americans are USA citizens (I don't know what else you would call them, USAians? perhaps :thinking:), because they say it isn't America, as that's the whole (or even both) American continents. These are only small things really, but when it comes to Irish people, their history and sense of grievance, these things still count, though thankfully everyone seems to be moving on over this side of the world. :)
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Galbally;733799 wrote: Really, well that just proves everything I have said is completely wrong then. :wah: But yes, on the money, on the stamps, and sometimes I guess people use Eire themselves (though its kinda more an older generation thing, I don't say Eire, and not many people I know do we are more used to the Republic of Ireland name), but this is kinda difficult to explain, its not so much that the UK Governemnt use Eire, or the Irish Republic (thats another one), its the fact that they wouldn't use "Republic of Ireland" for a long time, we notice these things you see, and we used to be very prickly about things like this because of the colonial history etc etc.

I dunno if you guys have a similar thing over there, I think some Canadians sometimes get annoyed that the shorthand for the USA is America and Americans are USA citizens (I don't know what else you would call them, USAians? perhaps :thinking:), because they say it isn't America, as that's the whole (or even both) American continents. These are only small things really, but when it comes to Irish people, their history and sense of grievance, these things still count, though thankfully everyone seems to be moving on over this side of the world. :)


I don't know, maybe she's just being unique?? :o But I've never heard anybody use it to refer to Ireland either. It's interesting to know the history of it though. :-6

as for us we're the only ones that have america in the actual name (United States of America) so that might explain why it's used although it tends to be people from other countries that refer to the country as America. Here it's more common to say 'the US" or 'the states'. :)
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sunny104;733811 wrote: I don't know, maybe she's just being unique?? :o But I've never heard anybody use it to refer to Ireland either. It's interesting to know the history of it though. :-6

as for us we're the only ones that have america in the actual name (United States of America) so that might explain why it's used although it tends to be people from other countries that refer to the country as America. Here it's more common to say 'the US" or 'the states'. :)


Thats true about America, its us that really call it that I suppose, most Americans I know when they are at home tend to think as much about their State as being American as when you are at home you don't need to think about it of course!. Actually its the same here, Irish people identify as much with the county they come from as the country, hence the story of the Irish Journalist who was kidnapped in Iraq and asked where he came from..."Wexford of course!" was his reply to the kidnappers. We are an Island race after all, and Islands are like little worlds unto themselves!

I mean I don't go around here thinking "oh, I am Irish, how strange" as everyone round here (well mostly) are Irish. I think most people think of us as just "Irish" whether we are from the North or South, and the country as Ireland, (though mostly everyone knows that there are two bits with different situations, and there has been a bit of trouble in one of them). That's one of the fun things about being abroad, as you realize that to other people things that seem quite normal to you (like my accent) they think are interesting and different). Though a lot of the people I work with are post-grads from other EU countries, and we have one American so that can be fun, as you get to try a lot of languages out at coffee break!
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posted by galbally

I mean I don't go around here thinking "oh, I am Irish, how strange" as everyone round here (well mostly) are Irish. I think most people think of us as just "Irish" whether we are from the North or South, and the country as Ireland, (though mostly everyone knows that there are two bits with different situations, and there has been a bit of trouble in one of them). That's one of the fun things about being abroad, as you realize that to other people things that seem quite normal to you (like my accent) they think are interesting and different). Though a lot of the people I work with are post-grads from other EU countries, and we have one American so that can be fun, as you get to try a lot of languages out at coffee break!


It's the names that surprised me. I worked with a load of africans with names I found almost unpronounceable-on the other hand they just could not get their tongues round my name at all/. I ended up being called mr mack as that was as far as they could get pronouncing my name.
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gmc;734407 wrote: posted by galbally



It's the names that surprised me. I worked with a load of africans with names I found almost unpronounceable-on the other hand they just could not get their tongues round my name at all/. I ended up being called mr mack as that was as far as they could get pronouncing my name.


yeah, its always surprising at the things we all take for granted init? :-6
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