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RedGlitter;641401 wrote: I disagree completely with this, Immy. Animals cannot be replaced when you have one you love, any more than children can. Ever. Regardless what I think about priorities, I *think* CG was probably saying the situation with her poor cat was just the last straw. I can understand that.


I'm sorry if I offended you, I consider you my friend and I know how devoted you are to animal welfare. My view on animals was developed from growing up in a farming community - animals were stock or a working tool not pets. It sounds hard and I don't mean to be, I do know how important pets are to their owners and how devastating it can be to loose them. However when CG is facing such a dire situation the death of an elderly pet seems way down the list of worse possible outcomes.

Immy, you haven't offended me and I am still your friend. :-6

I was just offering my interpretation of what CG meant. Or what I thought she meant. Only she knows for sure, right, but that was just how I took it. But you and I are fine. I'm sorry if I sounded harsh to you.

i have been reading through some of the post,i really do feel for CG. I cant pretend i even know what she is going trough.And i feel we are all here to offer her are support in one way or another.

But please CG please do not take affence when i say this ,but i feel if something like this is posted on such a sensitive subject you will leave yourself wide open to good and bad thoughts on this.

I just feel now what ever CG chooses what we should do is be there for her.Sorry to go on a soap box

RedGlitter;641401 wrote: Are you having some sort of problem with me Betty Boop and Buttercup? Not only did you take wrong what I said to CG, you failed to see that I was giving her support that didn't involve a a bunch of "my heart goes out to you" bs. If you have something to say to me then just speak your piece and be done with it. All these people who chose to mollycoddle CG, fine, I'm not. She put her business out there and everyone's allowed to comment regardless of which way they go. You don't like what I said, fine. Noted. Now get over it.






I placed a laughing smilie, i thought it was funny, i still do. Your 'speak your piece & be done with it' & 'get over it' comments to me & Betty are somewhat aggressive in nature, any more of them directed at me may result in a problem, that however remains to be seen. :rolleyes:



Rest assured Red when or if i do have a problem with you i will most certainly let you know about it. I tend to do this in the form of a pm rather than thread dramatics.

buttercup;641454 wrote: I placed a laughing smilie, i thought it was funny, i still do. Your 'speak your piece & be done with it' & 'get over it' comments to me & Betty are somewhat aggressive in nature, any more of them directed at me may result in a problem, that however remains to be seen. :rolleyes:



Rest assured Red when or if i do have a problem with you i will most certainly let you know about it. I tend to do this in the form of a pm rather than thread dramatics.


Funny Buttercup, when I looked again there was no laughing smiley and even if there were I doubt it would have mattered beyond actual content.

It's not my nature to be aggressive but I have no problems saying what I mean. I certainly hope that wasn't some kind of threat online because I'd be laughing if it were. You let me know privately then if and when you have a problem with me. Maybe you could have done that to start with.

why is this getting out of hand?

I was thinking the same:(

crazygal;640563 wrote: I just had a call, the vet is operating on my cat, he has a lump. If it;s near the pancreas then he will only have up to a week to live which is looking likely. He is under the anesthetic now. What else can go wrong? I adore that cat, I wish I were dead.


Okay, I'm going to say it. Why would anyone be worrying about the friggin cat at a time like this. Until you get the kids sorted the cat should not even be considered in my opinion.



Now Flame away. Sorry i am so pro human. And especially pro children.

neffy;641469 wrote: why is this getting out of hand?


It's not.

It was me talking to Buttercup and vice versa. It's sorted. Let it go.

buttercup;641361 wrote: :yh_clap



That's a bit harsh



:yh_rotfl


Please note the above & if you go back to the op you will see the only symbol i used in regard to you was the laughing smilie

RedGlitter;641463 wrote: Funny Buttercup, when I looked again there was no laughing smiley and even if there were I doubt it would have mattered beyond actual content.

It's not my nature to be aggressive but I have no problems saying what I mean. I certainly hope that wasn't some kind of threat online because I'd be laughing if it were. You let me know privately then if and when you have a problem with me. Maybe you could have done that to start with.


As i stated i would inform you if i had a problem, read back through it Red, your the one who has a problem with my laughing smilie here, further to that your the one being aggressive, im totally chilled.

YZGI;641480 wrote: Okay, I'm going to say it. Why would anyone be worrying about the friggin cat at a time like this. Until you get the kids sorted the cat should not even be considered in my opinion.



Now Flame away. Sorry i am so pro human. And especially pro children.


I don't need to flame you YZ, but I think it's a rotten thing for you to say and should have never been said. Don't even know why you would say such a thing. She's already stated clearly how much she loves her cat and how much the cat means to her and now she's going to see this. It's not a "friggin cat," it's her beloved pet.

buttercup;641500 wrote: Please note the above & if you go back to the op you will see the only symbol i used in regard to you was the laughing smilie



As i stated i would inform you if i had a problem, read back through it Red, your the one who has a problem with my laughing smilie here, further to that your the one being aggressive, im totally chilled.


Buttercup it sure looks to me like you put that smiley there in mockery of what I had said and not as a friendly gesture. We've both said our piece and if you're "chilled" then we can let it go as I'm feeling pretty fine myself.

RedGlitter;641503 wrote: I don't need to flame you YZ, but I think it's a rotten thing for you to say and should have never been said. Don't even know why you would say such a thing. She's already stated clearly how much she loves her cat and how much the cat means to her and now she's going to see this. It's not a "friggin cat," it's her beloved pet.
I knew it would be you. No offense but I think her son is much more important. If I had the same troubles as her, I'm sorry but the cat would be the least of my worries compared to my child. My opinion and not trying to cause an uproar.

I'm starting to wish this thread was dead........ :wah:

You knew it would be me huh? Well...I'm really surprised it was you. I wouldn't have expected that from you. There's no uproar. I just know how sh*tty I'd feel if I were in her spot and came on and saw that. My opinion. I'm done with the cat issue.

YZGI;641510 wrote: I knew it would be you. No offense but I think her son is much more important. If I had the same troubles as her, I'm sorry but the cat would be the least of my worries compared to my child. My opinion and not trying to cause an uproar.




I may be hung for agreeing with the logic of what you have said.

sunny104;641514 wrote: I'm starting to wish this thread was dead........ :wah:


Yeah. Same here.

sunny104;641514 wrote: I'm starting to wish this thread was dead........ :wah:


:wah: Good one Sunny - classic :-4

sunny104;641514 wrote: I'm starting to wish this thread was dead........ :wah:
Don't worry. I'm done. Just been thinking about it since I read it and decided to get it off my chest. I will now go back to being flippant and inane.

RedGlitter;641515 wrote: You knew it would be me huh? Well...I'm really surprised it was you. I wouldn't have expected that from you. There's no uproar. I just know how sh*tty I'd feel if I were in her spot and came on and saw that. My opinion. I'm done with the cat issue.
I didn't mean that the way it sounded. I apologize.

I think Red you will find its not me that has got to let it go if you know what i mean.At the end of the day its only a post so like you said just let it go

yzgi can you remember the thread where Jim tortured me with jokes about being on a short fuse? The one with the midget, so funny i'd like to see it again.

See Neffy? You just had to say it again. It wasn't even about you.

RedGlitter;641498 wrote: It's not.

It was me talking to Buttercup and vice versa. It's sorted. Let it go.


I think Red you will find its not me that has got to let it go if you know what i mean.At the end of the day its only a post so like you said just let it go

YZGI;641522 wrote: I didn't mean that the way it sounded. I apologize.


Thanks YZ.

No hard feelings, no harm done.

Hey, why don't we all get out of CGs thread and go somewhere else??

buttercup;641525 wrote: yzgi can you remember the thread where Jim tortured me with jokes about being on a short fuse? The one with the midget, so funny i'd like to see it again.


I'm sure he'll oblige when he gets back from work :wah:

RedGlitter;641528 wrote: Thanks YZ.

No hard feelings, no harm done.



Hey, why don't we all get out of CGs thread and go somewhere else??
Good idea, is there a midget havinf sex thread somewhere?

YZGI;641530 wrote: Good idea, is there a midget havinf sex thread somewhere?


Hang on...making one now...

almostfamous;641542 wrote: I can't come up with anything nice to say about the last few pages of this thread but I think the b.s. needs to be removed and put in the off topic or the wtf ever thread.





You just don't kick people when they're down. Bottom ****ing line! :-5 :-5


I have to agree with you here AF. Despite our thoughts and opinions CG is going through a rough time, what she may or may not say on here is not likely to be entirely clear, she is in distress. I don't think it's BS or that she is being Molly coddled, she has been offered up support. That is what some of us believe is needed.

minks;641559 wrote: I have to agree with you here AF. Despite our thoughts and opinions CG is going through a rough time, what she may or may not say on here is not likely to be entirely clear, she is in distress. I don't think it's BS or that she is being Molly coddled, she has been offered up support. That is what some of us believe is needed.


:yh_clap







I don't have a problem with you RG, just a problem with the fact that you are telling someone that is already on anti-depressants (I believe), and that has already suggested that they suffered from postnatal depression on their first child that they are not depressed! I'm just stunned that you can make such an assumption thats all!

I have bumped the Off Topic Thread instead of moving the large number of posts from here that are discussing how FG members should react to CG and her recent threads.

This thread should now just be for comments that relate to the original question. Any further opinions on the specifics of the situation should go in the off topic thread.

http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/showt ... hp?t=28020

Betty Boop;641637 wrote: :yh_clap







I don't have a problem with you RG, just a problem with the fact that you are telling someone that is already on anti-depressants (I believe), and that has already suggested that they suffered from postnatal depression on their first child that they are not depressed! I'm just stunned that you can make such an assumption thats all!


I know about depression. I'm no stranger to it. What led up to my comment is the unfortunate situation with her boy and her ill cat. That is what I'm speaking of. I really believe you took what I said in the wrong context, Betty Boop. Just because you are depressed does not mean that every bad situation is a form of depression on top of it. Is that making any sense? I'm not sure.

RedGlitter;641661 wrote: I know about depression. I'm no stranger to it. What led up to my comment is the unfortunate situation with her boy and her ill cat. That is what I'm speaking of. I really believe you took what I said in the wrong context, Betty Boop. Just because you are depressed does not mean that every bad situation is a form of depression on top of it. Is that making any sense? I'm not sure.




:wah: I'm not depressed

Betty Boop;641663 wrote: :wah: I'm not depressed


Not you... CG....

RedGlitter;641665 wrote: Not you... CG....




Ok sorry lol



I took it that you are stating that CG has not got depression, so you were not stating that??





My two penneth on the cat is that it's actually all the little stuff happening around you that takes you over the edge, and I'm not implying that the cat is insignificant here, just that its usually something else away from the big picture that tips you and has people looking at you in amazement at your reaction, it's usually then that you get through the layers to the main problem.

Betty Boop;641677 wrote: Ok sorry lol



I took it that you are stating that CG has not got depression, so you were not stating that??



No, not at all. I know she does, she has said so.



My two penneth on the cat is that it's actually all the little stuff happening around you that takes you over the edge, and I'm not implying that the cat is insignificant here, just that its usually something else away from the big picture that tips you and has people looking at you in amazement at your reaction, it's usually then that you get through the layers to the main problem.


I agree with this. I think you and I are both on the same side of that, just that we misunderstood each other.

Hi,

I know you don't know me. But saw your title. I at times had felt this way. Can I be a friend?

Barbara

almostfamous;641542 wrote: I can't come up with anything nice to say about the last few pages of this thread but I think the b.s. needs to be removed and put in the off topic or the wtf ever thread.





You just don't kick people when they're down. Bottom ****ing line! :-5 :-5




i know your a muppet most of the time but i really agree with your post af





love cg or hate her i dont think its right to stick the knife in i expect she feels bad enough all ready

crazygal;640563 wrote: I just had a call, the vet is operating on my cat, he has a lump. If it;s near the pancreas then he will only have up to a week to live which is looking likely. He is under the anesthetic now. What else can go wrong? I adore that cat, I wish I were dead.


:yh_hugs :yh_hugs

CG

I am sending lots of hugs to you, Ryan, Jade and cat.

I know it seems like the end of the world right now and like you say what else can go wrong,

I am not sure of the situation with you and Ryan but i really hope it gets sorted out and i know how hard it must be.

i hope were Ryan has gone/going is (temporary) and that it will help sort things out and show him how much he really needs his mummy,

I feel so sad about your cat as i am very much a cat lover myself and if anything ever happened to the 2 i have now it would break my heart.

I really wish you strength in this difficult time. :-4

xxxx

barbara j alvarez;641901 wrote: Hi,

I know you don't know me. But saw your title. I at times had felt this way. Can I be a friend?

Barbara


go on and be anybody's friend jump on in. That is a grand offer.

Cheers to you and welcome to FG.

I am ashamed to say that when I was very young, I had zero patience for those claiming to suffer from depression, or the hosts of many other catch all mental disorders. That was until I was around 33 and bouts of depression began to hit me, for the first time. I can remember, clear as day (25 years ago) describing the feeling to my mom. I told her that I could actually feel it coming. It would wash over me in waves, I was unable to stop it, and it would take me down into a hole. I have experienced it many times throughout my life, and am grateful for the times when I feel ok. I have learned to postphone reacting to statements that seem erratic to me. The reason is because I understand that something as simple as the sound of rain pelting the ground at dusk, can trigger feelings of depression. In actuality, it is something much more painful that is causing the cycle to begin. I would hope to always be very careful in refraining from responding in a way that might hurt anyone, as I have experienced the frightening feeling, a couple of times, of wanting to drive my car into a cement wall.

Betty Boop;641141 wrote: Whoa!! Depression comes in many forms, how can you know that any one of us here is, or is not suffering from depression?


Very true. I don't just take the pills for fun.

Will read the rest of the thread when I'm not feeling so 'depressed'. When my cat has actually died maybe.

Oh please, for gods sake can we leave it. This isn't helping anyone...

thank god I didn't quote it!!!!!

Betty Boop;643735 wrote: Oh please, for gods sake can we leave it. This isn't helping anyone...


Sorry, only the word true was in reply to your post because it is.

Sorry about your cat. I really do feel bad. To anwser your question, I think alot of people feel this way once in awhile. I know lately I do feel that way. It will pass. I lost my cat 2 years ago and I still miss him.

crazygal;643737 wrote: Sorry, only the word true was in reply to your post because it is.


I wasn't responding to you, doesn't matter now, they've been deleted.

RedGlitter;641401 wrote: Are you having some sort of problem with me Betty Boop and Buttercup? Not only did you take wrong what I said to CG, you failed to see that I was giving her support that didn't involve a a bunch of "my heart goes out to you" bs. If you have something to say to me then just speak your piece and be done with it. All these people who chose to mollycoddle CG, fine, I'm not. She put her business out there and everyone's allowed to comment regardless of which way they go. You don't like what I said, fine. Noted. Now get over it.



I disagree completely with this, Immy. Animals cannot be replaced when you have one you love, any more than children can. Ever. Regardless what I think about priorities, I *think* CG was probably saying the situation with her poor cat was just the last straw. I can understand that.


Sorry to add more to this but I have been reading through and what I highlighted that you said was exactly how I was feeling at the time. Both came to a head the same day and it was other than really upsetting, very bad timing.

YZGI;641480 wrote: Okay, I'm going to say it. Why would anyone be worrying about the friggin cat at a time like this. Until you get the kids sorted the cat should not even be considered in my opinion.



Now Flame away. Sorry i am so pro human. And especially pro children.


Of course Ryan is my first priority but I found out Smokey was dying the same day that Ryan may be taking into Foster Care, it was a hell of a lot to go through in one day and I stupidy thought I would feel better talking about it.