So here's my challenge to rightwing bloggers who assail the media for liberal bias (and to journalists who think it's all a he-said-she-said pissing match): Back up your claims. With concrete examples of bias. And without the tautological crutch that any story critical of the administration is proof of liberal bias.
This assinine spiel Posted bi the stupid cowboy trix....ABOVE..... (I am ashamed to say "I am a REAL cowboy" after readin stupit,trx's point I might not be) Oh Not I am one with no bo0nes
Here ya go pal media bias:
Journalists’ Political Views. Compared to their audiences, journalists are far more likely to say they are Democrats or liberals, and they espouse liberal positions on a wide variety of issues. A 2004 poll by the Pew Research Center for The People & The Press found five times more journalists described themselves as “liberal†as said they were “conservative.†See Section.
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:36 pm
by nvalleyvee
How many hunting accidents happen in the US in any given year.................This is the only one I've heard about.............how sad.
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:27 am
by TruthSeekerToo
SnoozeControl wrote: Look at it this way... if, oh say... Harrison Ford, shot someone in the face and caused a heart attack, then hid the news for two days... would you still be claiming a liberal media bias?
First, the accident was reported right away to law enforcement (secret service on scence), medical personnel (on scene) and local law enforcement (by eye witness). There has been no evidence shown that anyone "hid the news." The local sheriff's office has already closed the investigation with a finding of nothing more than what it was, an accident. The liberal media bias has been in place for decades, long before my post. I do have a grip... on that truth which is shared by millions in this country.
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:44 am
by PlowBoy
nvalleyvee wrote: How many hunting accidents happen in the US in any given year.................This is the only one I've heard about.............how sad.
Hunting accidents are a fact of life. They happen all the time. While I don't agree with the organizations cause, I quickly found just one web site on a search that lists hunting accidents going back for years. www.all-creatures.org/cash/accident-center.html
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:58 am
by TruthSeekerToo
SnoozeControl wrote: [QUOTE=TruthSeekerToo]There's plenty of material and studies that prove a liberal media bias...
Look at it this way... if, oh say... Harrison Ford, shot someone in the face and caused a heart attack, then hid the news for two days... would you still be claiming a liberal media bias? Get a grip.
More links to evidence of liberal media bias.
A 28-gauge shotgun fired at 30 yards is too weak to cause Whittington's injuries
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | February 15 2006
Amidst the swirl of outrage, obfuscation and wisecracking, one fundamental flaw in the White House's Cheney shooting story remains. How can a 28-gauge shotgun fired from supposedly 30 yards away cause pellets to become lodged in someone's heart?
How can a weapon that has little more power than a kids BB gun fire projectiles that in most cases don't penetrate further than an inch into a bird's breast and yet in this instance tore through a hunting vest, clothes underneath, the chest cavity and into the muscle of Whittington's heart?
Alex Jones has been bird hunting on countless occasions and considers himself an expert. Alex says that it is simply impossible for such a weak shotgun to cause such damage from 30 yards . Alex has used shotguns that are more powerful than the 28-gauge and seen pellets literally bounce off birds and only stun them. It is common practice for birds to be stunned as a result of the pellets not penetrating and it is usually necessary to have to snap the neck to finish them off.
The only explanation that fits the nature of Whittington's injuries is that Cheney's gun discharged at extremely close range.
The most fundamental basics of gun safety are that you don't point loaded weapons at people, you point them down at the ground and keep them very carefully under control.
As others have speculated it is likely that Cheney was drunk and he dropped the weapon, causing it to discharge and pepper Whittington at close range. Cheney refused to talk to local police until the next day and the Secret Service made sure the authorities had no access to him. This tells us that Cheney considers himself to be above the law.
If any other US citizen shot someone in the face would the police be happy to wait 14 hours before talking to them?
The media seems to be focusing on the delay in reporting the original incident and the White House cover-up of the fact that Whittington had a heart attack. These are important issues but why are no questions being asked about the incompatibility between the official story and the injuries sustained by Whittington?
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:31 pm
by ChiptBeef
StupidCowboyTricks wrote: Media Ignores Cheney 'Smoking Gun'
Hey, StupidTricks, how about moving to the "Conspiracy" thread?
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:42 pm
by StupidCowboyTricks
ChiptBeef wrote: Hey, StupidTricks, how about moving to the "Conspiracy" thread?
No, This is a thread started by Snooze about quail hunting.......catch up!:wah:
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:44 pm
by ChiptBeef
I am caught up... with your useless spin.
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:55 pm
by StupidCowboyTricks
ChiptBeef wrote: I am caught up... with your useless spin.
There goes chiptbeef..........
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:30 pm
by ChiptBeef
Hey, StupidTricks, if you could come up with a thimble full of credible reason, I'd bite, but right now you're just boring me. Maybe next time.... :-1
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:37 pm
by StupidCowboyTricks
ChiptBeef wrote: Hey, StupidTricks, if you could come up with a thimble full of credible reason, I'd bite, but right now you're just boring me. Maybe next time.... :-1
Then continue to post your links on biased Liberal media......:p
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:44 pm
by ChiptBeef
StupidCowboyTricks wrote: Then continue to post your links on biased Liberal media......:p
That's in another thread that I started, but is now somewhat moot, since the bias has already been proven too many times to count.
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:52 pm
by StupidCowboyTricks
(((CLICK)))
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:35 am
by BabyRider
StupidCowboyTricks wrote: Then continue to post your links on biased Liberal media......:p
Wait, wait....are you saying they're NOT? The media...liberal biased, that is.
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:35 am
by Accountable
I haven't read this thread at all, but thought you'd like this. It's part of the transcript from yesterday's Meet the Press.
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MR. GIGOT: A hunting incidentâ€the vice president can defend himself, but a hunting incident is a little different than the FISA court issue and the NSA.
MS. DOWD: But it’s part of same pattern.
MR. GIGOT: It is notâ€it’sâ€how about a little human empathy? I mean, he shot his friend. He’sâ€it’s really one of these incidents where I think we can all stand back and say, “Let’s have a debate about the FISA Courts. Let’s have a big debate about the NSA wiretaps. Those are important issues.†This is a very different kind of circumstance.
MS. DOWD: But then he shot his friend and blames his friend.
MR. RUSSERT: Can I just pick up on that? The Democrats were very, very outspoken, as you might expect. The front-runner for the Democratic nomination 2008, the senator from New York, Hillary Clinton, had a news conference, and this is what she offered.
(Videotape, February 14, 2006)
SEN. HILLARY CLINTON, (D-NY): A tendency of this administration from the top all the way to the bottom is to withhold information, to resist legitimate requests for information, to refuse to be forthcoming about information that is of significance and relevant to the job that all of you do and the interest of the American people. The refusal of this administration to level with the American people on matters large and small is very disturbing.
(End videotape)
MR. RUSSERT: How do you respond?
MS. MATALIN: Putting aside the delicious hypocrisy there, what a missed opportunity. What if Mrs. Clinton had come out and said, “Do you know, I’m not a hunter, but lived in Arkansas and I understand this is an accident. These sorts of accidents are not infrequent. I don’t agree with Dick Cheney on many things, as you know, but I do know Lynn and Dick Cheney and I have to believe like any human being that he must be feeling awful right now for shooting his friend. And most of all, I don’t know Harry Whittington, but there’s a man lying in a hospital bed and I think we should all pass our thoughts and prayers along to him. Now, I’d like to talk about the serious business of this nation, things that I do not agree with the vice president on.†Well, Maureen Dowd, the diva of the smart set would be swooning. Moms across the country would be saying, “Hey, she thinks like me. That’s right. A guy shoots his friend. That’s not relative to my life. Let’s move on to serious issues.†No, that was a politically stupid thing to do, beside the delicious and just absurd hypocrisy of the forthcomingness of an administration.
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:53 am
by Adam Zapple
Yes, Hilary Clinton is the last person that should be criticizing another administration for stonewalling......Vince Foster, Whitewater, Rose Law Firm files, FBI files, the list goes on.....It's comical.:rolleyes:
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:08 am
by StupidCowboyTricks
Adam Zapple wrote: Yes, Hilary Clinton is the last person that should be criticizing another administration for stonewalling......Vince Foster, Whitewater, Rose Law Firm files, FBI files, the list goes on.....It's comical.:rolleyes:
Hillary held an office?
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:25 am
by Accountable
StupidCowboyTricks wrote: Hillary held an office? Not legally :rolleyes:
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:28 am
by Adam Zapple
Yes, she was co-President. Remember, it was her staff that locked Vince Foster's office and refuse to allow investigators in for days while they cleaned out the office. It was 30 hrs after his death before a shredded suicide note mysteriously appeared in a briefcase....the same briefcase the FBI/SS looked at earlier and found no note. She was the one who for two years "couldn't find" law firm documents that had been subpoened until they miraculously beamed themselves onto her coffee table. :wah: :wah: She was the one who hired Craig Livingstone, the same guy who managed to illegally possess about a thousand FBI files on Clinton's political opponents. She was the one who spearheaded the firing of career travel office employees so she could put her Hollywood croonies in charge, kaching kaching, and let loose the IRS attack dogs to manufacture criminal charges against innocent government employees just to cover her tracks. What a short memory some people have. But back to Cheney.....
Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:45 am
by StupidCowboyTricks
Adam Zapple wrote: Yes, she was co-President. Remember, it was her staff that locked Vince Foster's office and refuse to allow investigators in for days while they cleaned out the office. It was 30 hrs after his death before a shredded suicide note mysteriously appeared in a briefcase....the same briefcase the FBI/SS looked at earlier and found no note. She was the one who for two years "couldn't find" law firm documents that had been subpoened until they miraculously beamed themselves onto her coffee table. :wah: :wah: She was the one who hired Craig Livingstone, the same guy who managed to illegally possess about a thousand FBI files on Clinton's political opponents. She was the one who spearheaded the firing of career travel office employees so she could put her Hollywood croonies in charge, kaching kaching, and let loose the IRS attack dogs to manufacture criminal charges against innocent government employees just to cover her tracks. What a short memory some people have. But back to Cheney.....
It's because none of it ever panned out. Except the expense to the American people.
Adam Zapple wrote: Yes, she was co-President. Remember, it was her staff that locked Vince Foster's office and refuse to allow investigators in for days while they cleaned out the office. It was 30 hrs after his death before a shredded suicide note mysteriously appeared in a briefcase....the same briefcase the FBI/SS looked at earlier and found no note. She was the one who for two years "couldn't find" law firm documents that had been subpoened until they miraculously beamed themselves onto her coffee table. :wah: :wah: She was the one who hired Craig Livingstone, the same guy who managed to illegally possess about a thousand FBI files on Clinton's political opponents. She was the one who spearheaded the firing of career travel office employees so she could put her Hollywood croonies in charge, kaching kaching, and let loose the IRS attack dogs to manufacture criminal charges against innocent government employees just to cover her tracks. What a short memory some people have. But back to Cheney.....
The former co-president and current carpetbagger has a long list of hits. It's no wonder prosecution never "panned out," with the heavy hand of government backing her up.