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Posted: **Sun May 16, 2021 10:28 am**

spot wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 12:34 am
tude dog wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 5:04 pm
spot wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 2:06 am
tude dog wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 4:32 pm
spot wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 1:54 pm
tude dog wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 1:13 pm If we don't have borders, we are not a nation. We can only prosper as long as we have laws to protect our sovereignty and basic human rights and citizens who respect and live by them.
You've almost reached enlightenment - all you need do now is recognize that what you just wrote applies equally to every country on earth, as well as America.
Maybe, depends.
That's just what thinking America is Exceptional does to you.
I'll spoon-feed this for you. I am not willing to say it applies to every nation/country on Earth or not.
Yes, I got that. You're saying you think America is special and should get special terms and special consideration and special treatment and special access because it's special unlike other countries which aren't special in the way America is. I probably used the word "exceptional" earlier, as in "America is an exception when it comes to rules". The thing is, the old rule of do as you would be done by seems to be broken where America is concerned and I don't quite see why.

Gee, you just make so much up.
I can speak for my country and can't speak for others.

Posted: **Sun May 16, 2021 11:15 am**

tude dog wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 10:28 am Gee, you just make so much up.
I can speak for my country and can't speak for others.

I've never asked you to speak for other countries. I'm inviting you to speak about your own personal bias against other countries. Can't you see the difference? The old rule of do as you would be done by seems to be broken where America is concerned and I don't quite see why. Have you never tried introspection?

Posted: **Sun May 16, 2021 1:48 pm**

tude dog wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 10:28 am
spot wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 12:34 am
tude dog wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 5:04 pm
spot wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 2:06 am
tude dog wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 4:32 pm
spot wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 1:54 pm

You've almost reached enlightenment - all you need do now is recognize that what you just wrote applies equally to every country on earth, as well as America.
Maybe, depends.
That's just what thinking America is Exceptional does to you.
I'll spoon-feed this for you. I am not willing to say it applies to every nation/country on Earth or not.
Yes, I got that. You're saying you think America is special and should get special terms and special consideration and special treatment and special access because it's special unlike other countries which aren't special in the way America is. I probably used the word "exceptional" earlier, as in "America is an exception when it comes to rules". The thing is, the old rule of do as you would be done by seems to be broken where America is concerned and I don't quite see why.
Gee, you just make so much up.
I can speak for my country and can't speak for others.

YES THE USA IS SPECIAL SPOT:
Compaired to other nations, the USA, by far spends more on foreign aid than anyone else over the years!
CAN YOU SAY THE SAME FOR YOUR COUNTRY SPOT?

US Foreign Aid by Country

Per Country promissed
Disbursements: (ACTUAL:)
Iraq $1.17 Bn $870.86 Mn
Jordan $1.16 Bn $855.80 Mn
Syria $819.37 Mn $694.29 Mn
Ethiopia $806.91 Mn $815.35 Mn
Afghanistan $760.17 Mn $809.57 Mn
South Sudan $749.53 Mn $752.51 Mn
Nigeria $739.50 Mn $717.92 Mn
Dr Congo $672.06 Mn $437.97 Mn
Yemen $633.60 Mn $551.54 Mn
Kenya $591.36 Mn $613.60 Mn
Lebanon $590.68 Mn $257.68 Mn
Niger $573.04 Mn $157.48 Mn
Bangladesh $520.16 Mn $311.77 Mn
Uganda $482.71 Mn $433.58 Mn
Somalia $461.83 Mn $406.41 Mn
Tanzania $422.35 Mn $422.66 Mn
South Africa $393.44 Mn $362.68 Mn
Pakistan $370.37 Mn $438.37 Mn
Colombia $265.90 Mn $198.08 Mn
Sudan $260.77 Mn $223.87 Mn
Ukraine $247.30 Mn $231.72 Mn
Mozambique $220.40 Mn $300.80 Mn
Mali $215.90 Mn $197.37 Mn
Egypt $214.35 Mn $148.90 Mn
Malawi $212.42 Mn $327.72 Mn
Haiti $207.61 Mn $265.83 Mn
Zimbabwe $201.36 Mn $169.33 Mn
Senegal $180.36 Mn $156.33 Mn
Zambia $180.08 Mn $331.35 Mn
Rwanda $176.56 Mn $123.08 Mn
Myanmar $172.18 Mn $139.38 Mn
Russia $159.42 Mn $159.33 Mn
Turkey $159.27 Mn $55.20 Mn
Philippines $149.21 Mn $137.40 Mn
Guatemala $148.85 Mn $169.42 Mn
Ghana $141.31 Mn $185.71 Mn
Nepal $134.57 Mn $156.92 Mn
Ivory Coast $126.48 Mn $62.76 Mn
Micronesia $119.01 Mn $64.22 Mn
Tunisia $118.66 Mn $36.17 Mn
Chad $113.08 Mn $79.15 Mn
Honduras $111.54 Mn $125.19 Mn
Madagascar $109.91 Mn $95.48 Mn
Cameroon $105.92 Mn $67.09 Mn
Libya $104.37 Mn $46.19 Mn
Cambodia $100.30 Mn $68.23 Mn
Burkina Faso $92.12 Mn $58.45 Mn
Central African Republic $90.71 Mn $64.95 Mn
El Salvador $88.23 Mn $110.19 Mn
Liberia $86.35 Mn $217.38 Mn
India $85.12 Mn $110.42 Mn
Marshall Islands $84.38 Mn $41.87 Mn
Vietnam $83.12 Mn $77.71 Mn
Peru $82.78 Mn $55.89 Mn
Georgia $77.77 Mn $102.04 Mn
Palau $69.08 Mn $68.11 Mn
Burundi $68.84 Mn $47.41 Mn
Mexico $68.58 Mn $62.91 Mn
Bosnia And Herzegovina $63.06 Mn $39.99 Mn
Indonesia $54.33 Mn $291.58 Mn
Morocco $53.11 Mn $61.93 Mn
Dominican Republic $47.05 Mn $50.77 Mn
Guinea $44.69 Mn $57.41 Mn
Kyrgyzstan $44.21 Mn $45.09 Mn
Swaziland $43.16 Mn $38.20 Mn
Lesotho $42.73 Mn $53.07 Mn
Sri Lanka $42.53 Mn $30.64 Mn
Tajikistan $40.47 Mn $30.40 Mn
Mongolia $38.93 Mn $15.67 Mn
Sierra Leone $38.42 Mn $56.33 Mn
Angola $38.24 Mn $40.59 Mn
Thailand $37.97 Mn $34.70 Mn
Moldova $35.08 Mn $34.70 Mn
Benin $32.58 Mn $53.32 Mn
Nicaragua $30.26 Mn $27.17 Mn
Laos $29.56 Mn $8.15 Mn
Namibia $29.38 Mn $34.45 Mn
Jamaica $29.25 Mn $36.36 Mn
Botswana $27.39 Mn $21.52 Mn
Canada $26.09 Mn -$21.78 Mn
China $25.74 Mn $32.50 Mn
Armenia $25.59 Mn $26.90 Mn
Venezuela $25.01 Mn $15.09 Mn
Ecuador $24.84 Mn $16.71 Mn
Uzbekistan $23.82 Mn $10.66 Mn
Timor Leste $22.91 Mn $20.65 Mn
Brazil $21.31 Mn $24.47 Mn
Mauritania $18.56 Mn $14.15 Mn
Serbia $18.27 Mn $18.44 Mn
Kazakhstan $17.03 Mn $17.46 Mn
Paraguay $15.96 Mn $18.89 Mn
Costa Rica $15.69 Mn $9.66 Mn
Albania $15.50 Mn $16.29 Mn
Republic Of The Congo $15.08 Mn $2.66 Mn
Djibouti $14.80 Mn $10.96 Mn
Azerbaijan $13.97 Mn $12.28 Mn
Cuba $11.90 Mn $12.29 Mn
Israel $10.77 Mn $11.03 Mn
Malaysia $10.73 Mn $8.73 Mn
Belarus $10.19 Mn $8.27 Mn
Panama $9.79 Mn $10.77 Mn
Dominica $9.48 Mn $5.08 Mn
Gabon $8.48 Mn $866,086
Algeria $8.36 Mn $2.25 Mn
Austria $6.21 Mn $2.23 Mn
Argentina $5.02 Mn $3.65 Mn
Turkmenistan $4.54 Mn $3.55 Mn
Papua New Guinea $4.35 Mn $8.40 Mn
Togo $3.86 Mn $2.99 Mn
Guyana $3.60 Mn $3.61 Mn
Poland $3.21 Mn $3.21 Mn
Kuwait $3.07 Mn $4.02 Mn
Vanuatu $2.82 Mn $3.50 Mn
Czech Republic $2.72 Mn $53,731
Belize $2.70 Mn $3.92 Mn
North Korea $2.58 Mn $3.58 Mn
Trinidad And Tobago $2.52 Mn $119,608
Gambia $2.44 Mn $13.14 Mn
Fiji $1.96 Mn $2.31 Mn
Bolivia $1.79 Mn $1.04 Mn
Eritrea $1.54 Mn $752,006
Samoa $1.33 Mn $1.86 Mn
Hungary $1.32 Mn $1.09 Mn
Greece $1.26 Mn $404,305
Comoros $1.23 Mn $1.15 Mn
Tonga $1.18 Mn $1.33 Mn
Montenegro $1.04 Mn $685,480
Iran $917,676 $5.48 Mn
Ireland $750,000 $740,129
Oman $628,802 -$22,957
Hong Kong $564,000 $699,000
Chile $558,102 $2.65 Mn
Solomon Islands $524,998 $764,229
South Korea $517,754 $631,933
Cape Verde $475,518 $10.09 Mn
Slovenia $314,528 $14,528
Suriname $297,978 -
Guinea Bissau $258,508 $388,765
Mauritius $250,000 $214,233
Taiwan $200,000 $174,756
Latvia $196,465 $408,565
Uruguay $175,179 $95,438
Equatorial Guinea $171,014 $1.12 Mn
Saint Kitts And Nevis $162,566 $51,867
Japan $145,220 $140,220
Portugal $138,806 $52,454
United Arab Emirates $116,128 $116,812
Spain $103,753 $354,185
Saint Lucia $99,988 -
Bahamas $91,169 $281,262
Netherlands $49,215 $214,313
Barbados $46,950 $80,009
Singapore $40,500 $441,132
Malta $36,463 $18,963
Bhutan $31,848 $167,340
Italy $25,696 $3,943
Croatia $25,000 $212,255
Estonia $24,997 $24,997
Sao Tome And Principe $24,748 -$24,748
Saudi Arabia $17,899 $58,257
Bulgaria $13,599 $1.19 Mn
Romania $7,886 $1.43 Mn
Belgium $6,000 $6,000
Grenada $1,320 $1,320
Antigua And Barbuda - -$83,614
Bahrain - $446,567
Lithuania - $6,289
Slovakia - $503,917
Australia - $94
Maldives -$80 $5,662
Qatar -$1,601 $8,344
Cyprus -$98,430 $79,173

Posted: **Mon May 17, 2021 11:41 am**

cars wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 1:48 pm YES THE USA IS SPECIAL SPOT:
Compaired to other nations, the USA, by far spends more on foreign aid than anyone else over the years!
CAN YOU SAY THE SAME FOR YOUR COUNTRY SPOT?

US Foreign Aid by Country

I'm not ignoring this, I'll post a response but I do have a problem. There's stacks of sites showing US aid by country and I simply can't find the one you used. I need to know the year, and what they included and excluded. If you can provide the source I'll be far better placed to know what the numbers mean.

Posted: **Mon May 17, 2021 11:41 am**

spot wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 11:41 am
cars wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 1:48 pm YES THE USA IS SPECIAL SPOT:
Compaired to other nations, the USA, by far spends more on foreign aid than anyone else over the years!
CAN YOU SAY THE SAME FOR YOUR COUNTRY SPOT?

US Foreign Aid by Country
I'm not ignoring this, I'll post a response but I do have a problem. There's stacks of sites showing US aid by country and I simply can't find the one you used. I need to know the year, and what they included and excluded. If you can provide the source I'll be far better placed to know what the numbers mean.

What web page did you copy the lines from?

Posted: **Mon May 17, 2021 1:52 pm**

I foolishly didn't write the site down, and now I can't find it again. But it exists and is out there.

Posted: **Mon May 17, 2021 4:28 pm**

spot wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 11:15 am
tude dog wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 10:28 am Gee, you just make so much up.
I can speak for my country and can't speak for others.
I've never asked you to speak for other countries. I'm inviting you to speak about your own personal bias against other countries. Can't you see the difference? The old rule of do as you would be done by seems to be broken where America is concerned and I don't quite see why. Have you never tried introspection?

True, you never asked me to speak for other countries.

Posted: **Tue May 18, 2021 2:26 am**

cars wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 1:52 pm I foolishly didn't write the site down, and now I can't find it again. But it exists and is out there.

I found this one post with the same numbers but I still can't see who collated them. The chap in the video should be the next President, America deserves no less.

Is that video something you recognize or support?

Posted: **Tue May 18, 2021 7:07 am**

I am fascinated by the minus values at the bottom of the list.

I did find this: https://explorer.usaid.gov/agencies

Posted: **Tue May 18, 2021 11:01 am**

cars wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 1:52 pm I foolishly didn't write the site down, and now I can't find it again. But it exists and is out there.

Here ya go.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country

Posted: **Wed May 19, 2021 6:49 am**

tude dog wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:01 am
cars wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 1:52 pm I foolishly didn't write the site down, and now I can't find it again. But it exists and is out there.
Here ya go.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country

Interesting read.
Though each of the lists in there tells different stories, and there are some inconsistencies to be found.
And it seems that those are numbers from the Trump years. So, how do you get off blaming Biden for them?

Just sayin'

Posted: **Wed May 19, 2021 8:42 am**

LarsMac wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 6:49 am
tude dog wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:01 am
cars wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 1:52 pm I foolishly didn't write the site down, and now I can't find it again. But it exists and is out there.
Here ya go.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country
Interesting read.
Though each of the lists in there tells different stories, and there are some inconsistencies to be found.
And it seems that those are numbers from the Trump years. So, how do you get off blaming Biden for them?

Just sayin'

I'm rather more focused on the proportion of this "aid" which relates to the War Department or whatever this year's euphemism is. Department of Defense, State Department, that sort of thing.

Then there's the arms sales subsidies to assorted Middle Eastern countries, all lumped in as "aid". I'm hoping, once I can break it down, to get a coherent comparison with real aid totals from other countries.

Posted: **Mon May 24, 2021 10:22 am**

Quite the diplomat. Maybe she shouldn't go to the southern border.

Posted: **Sat May 29, 2021 1:09 pm**

Certainly, the Harris/Biden administration refuses an open and transparent look at their failed border policies.

ACLJ Files Lawsuit Against Biden Administration Over Refusal To Comply With Our FOIA Over Border Crisis

It seems like the Biden Administration had barely moved into the White House when migrants began surging our southern border in droves.

It shouldn’t be surprising, of course, as President Biden halted construction on President Trump’s wall and promised to reverse the Trump Administration’s immigration policies – the ones that were working – essentially flinging open the doors and saying, “Come on in.” And they have been, in unprecedented numbers.

Undocumented. Unvetted. Unlawful. Unknown entities freely moving in and disappearing.

https://aclj.org/immigration/aclj-files ... der-crisis

Posted: **Sat May 29, 2021 3:06 pm**

That's American politics these days. The question i never "is this a good policy", it's "how much will this annoy the opposition".

Posted: **Sat May 29, 2021 5:27 pm**

spot wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 3:06 pm That's American politics these days. The question i never "is this a good policy", it's "how much will this annoy the opposition".

An open border is not a good policy that annoys the average citizen.

Posted: **Sun May 30, 2021 2:12 am**

tude dog wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 5:27 pm
spot wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 3:06 pm That's American politics these days. The question i never "is this a good policy", it's "how much will this annoy the opposition".
An open border is not a good policy that annoys the average citizen.

But you do not have an open border. You're inventing one, it is not real, it does not exist, you live in a fantasy of your own creation. You use words which do not reflect the actuality, it is the fable of someone who prefers to be a crosspatch.

If I have a spare hour I'll try writing that response to the nature of US Aid, too. Another euphemism for world domination cynically pretending to be well-intentioned help.

Posted: **Sun May 30, 2021 7:52 am**

spot wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 2:12 am
tude dog wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 5:27 pm
spot wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 3:06 pm That's American politics these days. The question i never "is this a good policy", it's "how much will this annoy the opposition".
An open border is not a good policy that annoys the average citizen.
But you do not have an open border. You're inventing one, it is not real, it does not exist, you live in a fantasy of your own creation. You use words which do not reflect the actuality, it is the fable of someone who prefers to be a crosspatch.

Go on with your assertions.

spot wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 2:12 amIf I have a spare hour I'll try writing that response to the nature of US Aid, too. Another euphemism for world domination cynically pretending to be well-intentioned help.

Your assertions about our borders are worthless and so perhaps you could better spend your hour sitting in front of the telly.

Posted: **Sun May 30, 2021 9:37 am**

You have trouble with vocabulary, that's all. You might or might not have a porous border, you don't have an open border.

And I have no "telly".

Posted: **Mon May 31, 2021 10:08 am**

spot wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 9:37 am You have trouble with vocabulary, that's all. You might or might not have a porous border, you don't have an open border.

And I have no "telly".

I said OPEN and that is just what I meant.

Posted: **Mon May 31, 2021 5:41 pm**

tude dog wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 10:08 am
spot wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 9:37 am You have trouble with vocabulary, that's all. You might or might not have a porous border, you don't have an open border.

And I have no "telly".
I said OPEN and that is just what I meant.

You're confusing yourself. We both said "OPEN". You don't have an open border. Do you have an open border?

Your line I'm looking at is "An open border is not a good policy that annoys the average citizen". You don't have an open border. Writing a double negative didn't help either.

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