Is God Real?
Is God Real?
I do not get into the argument of the existence of God. It is futile on both sides. However I personally accept the reality of God. That being said I see a lot of narrow minded thinking on both sides. I accept the reality of God if others don't that is their issue and not mine. Every one is entitled to their own thoughts. Getting in to a heated discussion is ridiculous.
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Mickiel;1491276 wrote: Well there actually are " 3 did its"; man did it, God did it, or it did itself.
I think God did it.
Whenever we can't figure something out we just say 'god did it' and leave it at that. Then we don't have to figure out what really did it. We would still believe the earth is flat and the sun orbits around it as well. Thank god for our clever scientists. (More sarcasm? Yeah sure Mickiel):rolleyes:
I think God did it.
Whenever we can't figure something out we just say 'god did it' and leave it at that. Then we don't have to figure out what really did it. We would still believe the earth is flat and the sun orbits around it as well. Thank god for our clever scientists. (More sarcasm? Yeah sure Mickiel):rolleyes:
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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gmc;1491287 wrote: mirri
The existence of the bible does not prove god exists. If you don't believe in any religion why are you quoting the christian bible as an authority for anything.
I take issue with this, there is no such thing as " The Christian bible", you are sadly mistaken. No religion owns the bible, there are no copyrights on it. You, like many others, have just fallen for that suggestion. Of the 66 authors of the bible, only three could be called Christian, and even those were called Christians by pagans, not themselves.
The existence of the bible does not prove god exists. If you don't believe in any religion why are you quoting the christian bible as an authority for anything.
I take issue with this, there is no such thing as " The Christian bible", you are sadly mistaken. No religion owns the bible, there are no copyrights on it. You, like many others, have just fallen for that suggestion. Of the 66 authors of the bible, only three could be called Christian, and even those were called Christians by pagans, not themselves.
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Fuzzy;1491299 wrote: Whenever we can't figure something out we just say 'god did it' and leave it at that. Then we don't have to figure out what really did it. We would still believe the earth is flat and the sun orbits around it as well. Thank god for our clever scientists. (More sarcasm? Yeah sure Mickiel):rolleyes:
Well lets say a man figured it out, or science figured it out, can we now say, " Science did it?" Science created the universe, because they figured out many of its functions? I still say, no matter what man figures out, God did it!
Well lets say a man figured it out, or science figured it out, can we now say, " Science did it?" Science created the universe, because they figured out many of its functions? I still say, no matter what man figures out, God did it!
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Mickiel;1491304 wrote: Well lets say a man figured it out, or science figured it out, can we now say, " Science did it?" Science created the universe, because they figured out many of its functions? I still say, no matter what man figures out, God did it!
Well, since we have no evidence as to who or what has done it, I say dog did it. At least there is proof that dog exists.
Well, since we have no evidence as to who or what has done it, I say dog did it. At least there is proof that dog exists.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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Mickiel;1491304 wrote: Well lets say a man figured it out, or science figured it out, can we now say, " Science did it?" Science created the universe, because they figured out many of its functions? I still say, no matter what man figures out, God did it!
And did not God say "Thou shalt not bear false witness"?
And did not God say "Thou shalt not bear false witness"?
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FourPart;1491327 wrote: And did not God say "Thou shalt not bear false witness"?
Did he really? I wonder what made him come up with that. Play back the recording please.
Did he really? I wonder what made him come up with that. Play back the recording please.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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Fuzzy;1491326 wrote: Well, since we have no evidence as to who or what has done it, I say dog did it. At least there is proof that dog exists.
I think a good study of the anatomy of a dog, would show evidence of design;
Dog Anatomy from Head to Tail - For Dummies
Stunning design!
I think a good study of the anatomy of a dog, would show evidence of design;
Dog Anatomy from Head to Tail - For Dummies
Stunning design!
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This question is virtually meaningless . First of all, define God . Different people have different conceptions of what a deity might or might no be . Myself, I'm an agnostic .
There may or may not be a deity , but I don't believe in the conventional Christian God, which is really nothing but an imaginary bronze age Semitic sky god who demands that we all kiss his posterior constantly . This is the 21st century , the digital age, not the bronze age . Why do so many people believe in primitive ancient superstition ?
There may or may not be a deity , but I don't believe in the conventional Christian God, which is really nothing but an imaginary bronze age Semitic sky god who demands that we all kiss his posterior constantly . This is the 21st century , the digital age, not the bronze age . Why do so many people believe in primitive ancient superstition ?
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superhorn;1491336 wrote: This question is virtually meaningless . First of all, define God . Different people have different conceptions of what a deity might or might no be . Myself, I'm an agnostic .
There may or may not be a deity , but I don't believe in the conventional Christian God, which is really nothing but an imaginary bronze age Semitic sky god who demands that we all kiss his posterior constantly . This is the 21st century , the digital age, not the bronze age . Why do so many people believe in primitive ancient superstition ?
Is that covered by Coveting His Ass?
There may or may not be a deity , but I don't believe in the conventional Christian God, which is really nothing but an imaginary bronze age Semitic sky god who demands that we all kiss his posterior constantly . This is the 21st century , the digital age, not the bronze age . Why do so many people believe in primitive ancient superstition ?
Is that covered by Coveting His Ass?
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superhorn;1491336 wrote: This question is virtually meaningless . First of all, define God . Different people have different conceptions of what a deity might or might no be . Myself, I'm an agnostic .
There may or may not be a deity , but I don't believe in the conventional Christian God, which is really nothing but an imaginary bronze age Semitic sky god who demands that we all kiss his posterior constantly . This is the 21st century , the digital age, not the bronze age . Why do so many people believe in primitive ancient superstition ?
I think its a super, very meaningful question, and I asked it here 6 years ago, and the thread is still yet active! Of course many people, as yourself, have tried to belittle its significance along the way, but it has survived the scrutiny. Because it is a relevant question, just not in your mind.
There may or may not be a deity , but I don't believe in the conventional Christian God, which is really nothing but an imaginary bronze age Semitic sky god who demands that we all kiss his posterior constantly . This is the 21st century , the digital age, not the bronze age . Why do so many people believe in primitive ancient superstition ?
I think its a super, very meaningful question, and I asked it here 6 years ago, and the thread is still yet active! Of course many people, as yourself, have tried to belittle its significance along the way, but it has survived the scrutiny. Because it is a relevant question, just not in your mind.
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Sorry, Mickel, but I think you completely missed the point . I'm not belittling anyone for believing in God, and I hope you didn't take offense; none was meant.
What I meant was "What do you mean by God ?" Different people have different conceptions of what a deity might be .So it's a very difficult question to answer .
What I meant was "What do you mean by God ?" Different people have different conceptions of what a deity might be .So it's a very difficult question to answer .
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Mickiel;1491333 wrote: I think a good study of the anatomy of a dog, would show evidence of design;
Dog Anatomy from Head to Tail - For Dummies
Stunning design!
Evidence perhaps, but no proof that a god did it.
Dog Anatomy from Head to Tail - For Dummies
Stunning design!
Evidence perhaps, but no proof that a god did it.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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Mickiel;1491303 wrote: I take issue with this, there is no such thing as " The Christian bible", you are sadly mistaken. No religion owns the bible, there are no copyrights on it. You, like many others, have just fallen for that suggestion. Of the 66 authors of the bible, only three could be called Christian, and even those were called Christians by pagans, not themselves.
Actually there is - there are even records of the meetings where they discussed exactly what would or would not be in the chrisrian bible a discussion that still goes on today amongst the various sects. Cathoilics and protestants use different versions of the old testament the protestant one being shorter for anyone that purports to be interested in religion and it's history you do rather like to ignore inconvenient facts. The old testament, I'll grant you, is based on the jewish stories but the new testament is most definitely a made up christian version. Do some research on your own I have no intention of wasting my time providing you with the umpteen links you can use.
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I think a good study of the anatomy of a dog, would show evidence of design;
Dog Anatomy from Head to Tail - For Dummies
Stunning design!
Evidence for a mammalian originand evolution and but absolutely no evidence that god did it.
I think its a super, very meaningful question, and I asked it here 6 years ago, and the thread is still yet active! Of course many people, as yourself, have tried to belittle its significance along the way, but it has survived the scrutiny. Because it is a relevant question, just not in your mind.
It's a relevant question but the best answer you can give is I choose to believe in one which is not an answer or proof to anyone except yourself. I have no problem with you choosing to believe it if you wish but who desugned the designer. That he is and always has been is just not an answer all you're doing is deciding not to think about it and just believe. Your prerogative since you live in a secular society in a religious one you would not have that choice. So much misery in the world caused by people that would rather pick op a club and beat people in to submission rather than let them think for themselves. It's easy in a secular society to stand up and say I believe in god in a religious one to stand up and say I have doubts is downright dangerous and to say I no longer believe can get you killed. Thank your god you live in a secular age.
Actually there is - there are even records of the meetings where they discussed exactly what would or would not be in the chrisrian bible a discussion that still goes on today amongst the various sects. Cathoilics and protestants use different versions of the old testament the protestant one being shorter for anyone that purports to be interested in religion and it's history you do rather like to ignore inconvenient facts. The old testament, I'll grant you, is based on the jewish stories but the new testament is most definitely a made up christian version. Do some research on your own I have no intention of wasting my time providing you with the umpteen links you can use.
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I think a good study of the anatomy of a dog, would show evidence of design;
Dog Anatomy from Head to Tail - For Dummies
Stunning design!
Evidence for a mammalian originand evolution and but absolutely no evidence that god did it.
I think its a super, very meaningful question, and I asked it here 6 years ago, and the thread is still yet active! Of course many people, as yourself, have tried to belittle its significance along the way, but it has survived the scrutiny. Because it is a relevant question, just not in your mind.
It's a relevant question but the best answer you can give is I choose to believe in one which is not an answer or proof to anyone except yourself. I have no problem with you choosing to believe it if you wish but who desugned the designer. That he is and always has been is just not an answer all you're doing is deciding not to think about it and just believe. Your prerogative since you live in a secular society in a religious one you would not have that choice. So much misery in the world caused by people that would rather pick op a club and beat people in to submission rather than let them think for themselves. It's easy in a secular society to stand up and say I believe in god in a religious one to stand up and say I have doubts is downright dangerous and to say I no longer believe can get you killed. Thank your god you live in a secular age.
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I think you'll find that most, if not all mammals have identical 'parts', even if they have different functions & appearances. It's like taking a set number of pieces of Plasticine. You can then take each of those pieces, mould them into different shapes & stick them together in the same order. The end results would look entirely different, but the composite structure has the same number of pieces, in the same order as all the others.
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superhorn;1491349 wrote: Sorry, Mickel, but I think you completely missed the point . I'm not belittling anyone for believing in God, and I hope you didn't take offense; none was meant.
What I meant was "What do you mean by God ?" Different people have different conceptions of what a deity might be .So it's a very difficult question to answer .
Oh I am not offended.
What I mean by God is the creator of all things which we call physical matter and the human conscious life. The cause of that. By God I mean a supreme being that exist in reality. And I am not limited to just using " God" as that term, I can go with entity; deity; the unknown power; the One; The Origin; the mystery; I can accept any of those.
What I meant was "What do you mean by God ?" Different people have different conceptions of what a deity might be .So it's a very difficult question to answer .
Oh I am not offended.
What I mean by God is the creator of all things which we call physical matter and the human conscious life. The cause of that. By God I mean a supreme being that exist in reality. And I am not limited to just using " God" as that term, I can go with entity; deity; the unknown power; the One; The Origin; the mystery; I can accept any of those.
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There is much happening in many churches. Diana Butler Bass wrote "Christianity After Religion", Bonhoeffer wrote about "Reliogionless Christianity" Harvey Cox wrote "The Future of Faith". What I hear here is a constant rant about the past and not about where faith is heading. There are many authors trying to take the faith into the 21st century. The word "pistis" which has been erroneously translated into belief actually means "trust" and "Loyalty" had absolutely nothing to do with correct or right belief. I applaud the change into the secular. That is the reality. To much danger and pain have been generated by fundamentalism. It has also cause grief, division, anxiety etc. It is a very dangerous approach to religion and to the people it is supposed to help. P. Robertson called for the death of Chavez in Venezuela, J Falwell and his nonsense, the two Jimmies, Dobson. They did damage to the people they were supposed to help. I was raised in a fundamentalists church and I found it evil in the name of God.
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God is not religious, he is not a Christian, he is not a fundamentalist , and he is not human; and he is not an example of any of those things.
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Mickiel;1491472 wrote: God is not religious, he is not a Christian, he is not a fundamentalist , and he is not human; and he is not an example of any of those things.
You claim that Jesus was human, yet he was also God? By stating that Jesus was human and that Jesus is God, you are stating that God is human.
You claim that Jesus was human, yet he was also God? By stating that Jesus was human and that Jesus is God, you are stating that God is human.
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Which God are we talking about?
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FourPart;1491484 wrote: You claim that Jesus was human, yet he was also God? By stating that Jesus was human and that Jesus is God, you are stating that God is human.
I have claimed no such thing; show me anywhere in these archives that I said Jesus was God! Now you claim with your mouth things I have stated, I say your mouth is absolutely wrong; now show me that I said what your mouth is claiming.
I have claimed no such thing; show me anywhere in these archives that I said Jesus was God! Now you claim with your mouth things I have stated, I say your mouth is absolutely wrong; now show me that I said what your mouth is claiming.
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Pseudo scientists do deny evolution. Especially the ones have a vested interest in in proving the Bible inerrant. They have their own agenda. I like to go with the non aliened archaeologists since most of them seek the truth no matter where it leads.
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Ask not what god is, ask what god is not.:yh_worshp
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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Fuzzy;1491508 wrote: Ask not what god is, ask what god is not.:yh_worshp
When it comes to archaeology and God, life is lived forwards but understood backwards.
When it comes to archaeology and God, life is lived forwards but understood backwards.
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Fuzzy;1491508 wrote: Ask not what god is, ask what god is not.:yh_worshp
This reiminds me of Maimonides.
In The Guide for the Perplexed Maimonides goes on at some length to come up with this.
Each chapter was about a term used to refer to God (such as "mighty") and, in each case, Maimonides presented a case that the word is a homonym, whereby its usage when referring to a physical entity is completely different from when referring to God. This was done by close textual analysis of the word in the Tanach in order to present what Maimonides saw as the proof that according to the Tanach, God is completely incorporeal: " set up the incorporeality of God as a dogma, and placed any person who denied this doctrine upon a level with an idolater; he devoted much of the first part of the "Moreh Nevukhim" to the interpretation of the Biblical anthropomorphisms, endeavoring to define the meaning of each and to identify it with some transcendental metaphysical expression. Some of them are explained by him as perfect homonyms, denoting two or more absolutely distinct things; others, as imperfect homonyms, employed in some instances figuratively and in others homonymously."[4]
This leads to Maimonides' notion that God cannot be described in any positive terms, but rather only in negative conceptions. .
This reiminds me of Maimonides.
In The Guide for the Perplexed Maimonides goes on at some length to come up with this.
Each chapter was about a term used to refer to God (such as "mighty") and, in each case, Maimonides presented a case that the word is a homonym, whereby its usage when referring to a physical entity is completely different from when referring to God. This was done by close textual analysis of the word in the Tanach in order to present what Maimonides saw as the proof that according to the Tanach, God is completely incorporeal: " set up the incorporeality of God as a dogma, and placed any person who denied this doctrine upon a level with an idolater; he devoted much of the first part of the "Moreh Nevukhim" to the interpretation of the Biblical anthropomorphisms, endeavoring to define the meaning of each and to identify it with some transcendental metaphysical expression. Some of them are explained by him as perfect homonyms, denoting two or more absolutely distinct things; others, as imperfect homonyms, employed in some instances figuratively and in others homonymously."[4]
This leads to Maimonides' notion that God cannot be described in any positive terms, but rather only in negative conceptions. .
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
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The word god is to me another word for 'Everything That Is' and not the biblical god. I certainly don't think praying to either is doing any good. Might as well just blow out a candle and make a wish. You'll get the same result.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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Fuzzy;1491524 wrote: The word god is to me another word for 'Everything That Is' and not the biblical god. I certainly don't think praying to either is doing any good. Might as well just blow out a candle and make a wish. You'll get the same result.
I don't pray a lot, but sometimes when I do, it does seem like I am making a wish. I think prayer and making a wish, are simular.
I don't pray a lot, but sometimes when I do, it does seem like I am making a wish. I think prayer and making a wish, are simular.
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Some prayer is simply an attempt to manipulate God. Of course we have created God in our image.
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Ted;1491538 wrote: Some prayer is simply an attempt to manipulate God. Of course we have created God in our image.
The people who try that in prayer, to manipulate God, I think some of them have a good chance of getting away with it. I think God has a big heart.
The people who try that in prayer, to manipulate God, I think some of them have a good chance of getting away with it. I think God has a big heart.
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I do not believe that God interferes in our daily lives.
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Is God real? Well God is something, and I think one of those things, " Is Real."
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I don't think god is real. When something's too good to be true it's not True. IMO, & I'm not dissing believers.
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AnneBoleyn;1491970 wrote: I don't think god is real. When something's too good to be true it's not True. IMO, & I'm not dissing believers.
Interesting; a lot of people can see the evil in something and because of that, know its real; but if its too good, it can't be true??
Interesting; a lot of people can see the evil in something and because of that, know its real; but if its too good, it can't be true??
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Mickiel;1491975 wrote: Interesting; a lot of people can see the evil in something and because of that, know its real; but if its too good, it can't be true??
What you said is very interesting, Mickiel. I guess we as a society are conditioned to believe the worst. I know as a Jew we were always waiting for the last shoe to drop. Older Jews today still hide money just in case they must run away in the middle of the night. Of course, most of them believe in G-d. Thanks, great reply, and gives me something to think about.
What you said is very interesting, Mickiel. I guess we as a society are conditioned to believe the worst. I know as a Jew we were always waiting for the last shoe to drop. Older Jews today still hide money just in case they must run away in the middle of the night. Of course, most of them believe in G-d. Thanks, great reply, and gives me something to think about.
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AnneBoleyn;1491977 wrote: What you said is very interesting, Mickiel. I guess we as a society are conditioned to believe the worst. I know as a Jew we were always waiting for the last shoe to drop. Older Jews today still hide money just in case they must run away in the middle of the night. Of course, most of them believe in G-d. Thanks, great reply, and gives me something to think about.
Well I understand, I hide money myself.
I understand that the thought of a real God, is just too good to be true; I understand that mentality. We are not " Used to the very best things possible", because hardly any of us personally experience such incredible things in our lives. Like hitting a billion dollar lottery, what are the odds? So I understand the realist who refuses to gamble and spend his money on such odds. But I also understand the person who thinks, " Well, what's one dollar, I might win?" And reality always rest somewhere inbetween.
I think that is one of the things God is; the " Inbetweener!" Always seems to be somewhere you think he is not. Stuck in a spot we can't see.
Well I understand, I hide money myself.
I understand that the thought of a real God, is just too good to be true; I understand that mentality. We are not " Used to the very best things possible", because hardly any of us personally experience such incredible things in our lives. Like hitting a billion dollar lottery, what are the odds? So I understand the realist who refuses to gamble and spend his money on such odds. But I also understand the person who thinks, " Well, what's one dollar, I might win?" And reality always rest somewhere inbetween.
I think that is one of the things God is; the " Inbetweener!" Always seems to be somewhere you think he is not. Stuck in a spot we can't see.
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St. Paul said that God or the Divine is the one in whom we live and move and have out being. That implies that we are in God and He/She/It is in us. I understand why so many rant about religious faith and the stories they use. Times have and are changing and the human concept has and is changing. Talking snakes, the sun stands still for 24 hrs, the exodus are all stories with some truths hidden there in. Reading the Bible should not be done as literal truth but the Bible is a "more than" book. So much is lost in a literal reading.
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Is God real? A stunning question of ethereal realities! I think he is, but I think he is withholding most of the things, or information, that could help humanity see him.
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Mickiel;1492149 wrote: Is God real? A stunning question of ethereal realities! I think he is, but I think he is withholding most of the things, or information, that could help humanity see him.
Perhaps we would be better off with a she god then. I have always found that women are better carers, on average, than men.
Perhaps we would be better off with a she god then. I have always found that women are better carers, on average, than men.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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Fuzzy;1492169 wrote: Perhaps we would be better off with a she god then. I have always found that women are better carers, on average, than men.
An interesting suggestion;
Lets consider the raw Atheist suggestion. There is no God, and mankind may or may not survive on into the future; we all live and die, and that's it. Men or women may or may not factor into this speculation. Humanity might make it without a God. Whatever luck, or incredible circumstances factored into our existence , has to show up again in the future for human life to be substained. Whatever nature did, it has to keep doing it, or we will not survive. So neither male or female factors into this possibility. Something " Other than human", caused humans to exist; that something, which combined science, nature, theory, evolution, self creating matter, the power of infusion, the advent of cellular self construction, demanding self interior design, all these must remain constant on into our future destiny.
Or;
There is a God and all those things are dependant on him; and still, in that theory, humans, neither male or female , factor into the life of these realities being true.
Either way, we are just sitting ducks!
An interesting suggestion;
Lets consider the raw Atheist suggestion. There is no God, and mankind may or may not survive on into the future; we all live and die, and that's it. Men or women may or may not factor into this speculation. Humanity might make it without a God. Whatever luck, or incredible circumstances factored into our existence , has to show up again in the future for human life to be substained. Whatever nature did, it has to keep doing it, or we will not survive. So neither male or female factors into this possibility. Something " Other than human", caused humans to exist; that something, which combined science, nature, theory, evolution, self creating matter, the power of infusion, the advent of cellular self construction, demanding self interior design, all these must remain constant on into our future destiny.
Or;
There is a God and all those things are dependant on him; and still, in that theory, humans, neither male or female , factor into the life of these realities being true.
Either way, we are just sitting ducks!
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I was talking about the biblical god of course, which in my opinion is a human fabrication.
There is quite a difference between the biblical bastard and the power which caused everything to be.
When someone mentions 'god', to me s/he means the one who does not exist.
There is quite a difference between the biblical bastard and the power which caused everything to be.
When someone mentions 'god', to me s/he means the one who does not exist.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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Fuzzy;1492187 wrote: I was talking about the biblical god of course, which in my opinion is a human fabrication.
There is quite a difference between the biblical bastard and the power which caused everything to be.
When someone mentions 'god', to me s/he means the one who does not exist.
What is the biblical bastard? I have never heard that before.
There is quite a difference between the biblical bastard and the power which caused everything to be.
When someone mentions 'god', to me s/he means the one who does not exist.
What is the biblical bastard? I have never heard that before.
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Mickiel;1492189 wrote: What is the biblical bastard? I have never heard that before.
That's the so called 'loving' god of the old testament.
That's the so called 'loving' god of the old testament.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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Were his parents married?
Gender has also been an issue with God. If he made man in his own image, and there is but one God, then why would God be male? Why would he have any gender at all? Before you argue that he had no gender, he is always referred to as "He" & he supposedly created man in "His" own image - ie Male. Females supposedly only came later at Adam's request. What would he know about females?
Life, in general, is intricate. The evolution of the species, regardless of what species is immense - even that of a single, microbial species - and that's only based on what information we've learned so far, which is a mere drop in the ocean. So, you can take all those centuries of learning, continually trying to add to that bank of knowledge, or you can merely summarise it all in 3 words - "God did it". I just cannot comprehend how anyone in this day & age can believe in the latter.
Gender has also been an issue with God. If he made man in his own image, and there is but one God, then why would God be male? Why would he have any gender at all? Before you argue that he had no gender, he is always referred to as "He" & he supposedly created man in "His" own image - ie Male. Females supposedly only came later at Adam's request. What would he know about females?
Life, in general, is intricate. The evolution of the species, regardless of what species is immense - even that of a single, microbial species - and that's only based on what information we've learned so far, which is a mere drop in the ocean. So, you can take all those centuries of learning, continually trying to add to that bank of knowledge, or you can merely summarise it all in 3 words - "God did it". I just cannot comprehend how anyone in this day & age can believe in the latter.
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FourPart;1492197 wrote: Were his parents married?
Gender has also been an issue with God. If he made man in his own image, and there is but one God, then why would God be male? Why would he have any gender at all? Before you argue that he had no gender, he is always referred to as "He" & he supposedly created man in "His" own image - ie Male. Females supposedly only came later at Adam's request. What would he know about females?
Life, in general, is intricate. The evolution of the species, regardless of what species is immense - even that of a single, microbial species - and that's only based on what information we've learned so far, which is a mere drop in the ocean. So, you can take all those centuries of learning, continually trying to add to that bank of knowledge, or you can merely summarise it all in 3 words - "God did it". I just cannot comprehend how anyone in this day & age can believe in the latter.
According to scripture God is not human, which cancels out gender with " Him." Why the bible uses the " Male connotation" to describe God, I don't know. Its just symbolism, it choose to use God in the male sense, only as a reference point to write about this incredible being. Females did not come into being at Adams request, that is not biblical, it was God's decision to create a female, and through that decision he wanted them to begin another set of humans to reproduce and have children. The " Image of God", is not a male or a female gender, the image is " Consciousness", God created humans after his image means that we are conscious, as God is conscious.
I see evolution totally different than you do. I can't see how anyone in this day and age, with all the knowledge we have accumulated, still believe that we evolved from nothing and all the intricacy , all the cells, all the evidence of design, all the microbes, all the atoms, all of the great universe and its expanse, the human body, animal life, insects, fish, all this just formed itself over billions of years, then created humans and gave them a conscious life, formulated language on its own, gave humanity ideograghic expression, how can all this be evidence that compels a mind to accept that we evolved in from some self created hydrothermal vents , is simply stunning to my mind.
All this had to have " Outside involvement" that is beyond human and happenstance evolution! There is something " Other than Man", because I think it all was " Deliberately done." If I walk down a street and see a dime on the ground, I think nothing of it. If I walk further and see 3 dimes on the ground, now I can suspect someone dropped them by accident, but if I walk further and see 100 dimes laying on the ground, each standing on their edges perfectly balanced and in rows of ten, hey, now I can KNOW that this was " Deliberately done!" It was designed by a conscious thing.
And we who believe in God, we see the universe and human life, ALL life, as " Deliberately done!" And I can't see how anyone can see these deliberate actions as self inducing evolved from nothing awesome power to produce something from nothing. I don't get that; I don't see that, so I disagree with how you see this.
Gender has also been an issue with God. If he made man in his own image, and there is but one God, then why would God be male? Why would he have any gender at all? Before you argue that he had no gender, he is always referred to as "He" & he supposedly created man in "His" own image - ie Male. Females supposedly only came later at Adam's request. What would he know about females?
Life, in general, is intricate. The evolution of the species, regardless of what species is immense - even that of a single, microbial species - and that's only based on what information we've learned so far, which is a mere drop in the ocean. So, you can take all those centuries of learning, continually trying to add to that bank of knowledge, or you can merely summarise it all in 3 words - "God did it". I just cannot comprehend how anyone in this day & age can believe in the latter.
According to scripture God is not human, which cancels out gender with " Him." Why the bible uses the " Male connotation" to describe God, I don't know. Its just symbolism, it choose to use God in the male sense, only as a reference point to write about this incredible being. Females did not come into being at Adams request, that is not biblical, it was God's decision to create a female, and through that decision he wanted them to begin another set of humans to reproduce and have children. The " Image of God", is not a male or a female gender, the image is " Consciousness", God created humans after his image means that we are conscious, as God is conscious.
I see evolution totally different than you do. I can't see how anyone in this day and age, with all the knowledge we have accumulated, still believe that we evolved from nothing and all the intricacy , all the cells, all the evidence of design, all the microbes, all the atoms, all of the great universe and its expanse, the human body, animal life, insects, fish, all this just formed itself over billions of years, then created humans and gave them a conscious life, formulated language on its own, gave humanity ideograghic expression, how can all this be evidence that compels a mind to accept that we evolved in from some self created hydrothermal vents , is simply stunning to my mind.
All this had to have " Outside involvement" that is beyond human and happenstance evolution! There is something " Other than Man", because I think it all was " Deliberately done." If I walk down a street and see a dime on the ground, I think nothing of it. If I walk further and see 3 dimes on the ground, now I can suspect someone dropped them by accident, but if I walk further and see 100 dimes laying on the ground, each standing on their edges perfectly balanced and in rows of ten, hey, now I can KNOW that this was " Deliberately done!" It was designed by a conscious thing.
And we who believe in God, we see the universe and human life, ALL life, as " Deliberately done!" And I can't see how anyone can see these deliberate actions as self inducing evolved from nothing awesome power to produce something from nothing. I don't get that; I don't see that, so I disagree with how you see this.
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Mickiel;1492200 wrote: Why the bible uses the " Male connotation" to describe God, I don't know.
It is pretty obvious to me. Since god was invented by men and women had no say in the matter, god was made male.
In other words, man created god in his own image.
It is pretty obvious to me. Since god was invented by men and women had no say in the matter, god was made male.
In other words, man created god in his own image.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
Is God Real?
God created Man in His own image. That man was male. He was in the image of God. Therefore God is male. Therefore he does have gender. You cannot hedge around that simple logic by saying he doesn't.
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FourPart;1492208 wrote: God created Man in His own image. That man was male. He was in the image of God. Therefore God is male. Therefore he does have gender. You cannot hedge around that simple logic by saying he doesn't.
Think you are missing something here buddy.
From the King James version,
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Bible Gateway
What you don't understand the Hebrew word "adam" is a general term for humanity.
Think you are missing something here buddy.
From the King James version,
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Bible Gateway
What you don't understand the Hebrew word "adam" is a general term for humanity.
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
Is God Real?
Fuzzy;1492202 wrote: It is pretty obvious to me. Since god was invented by men and women had no say in the matter, god was made male.
In other words, man created god in his own image.
If it was an invention by man, its has spawned some good things, such as the influence it had on creating these 100 organizations;
https://topnonprofits.com/lists/best-no ... n-the-web/
In other words, man created god in his own image.
If it was an invention by man, its has spawned some good things, such as the influence it had on creating these 100 organizations;
https://topnonprofits.com/lists/best-no ... n-the-web/
Is God Real?
In the Bible God is said to be a spirit and not a being. Men have created their concepts of God. In that sense humankind has created God in their own image. This does not deny the reality of God. For many we have indeed created God in our image.
Is God Real?
Ted;1492263 wrote: In the Bible God is said to be a spirit and not a being. Men have created their concepts of God. In that sense humankind has created God in their own image. This does not deny the reality of God. For many we have indeed created God in our image.
My guess would be God is both a spirit and some type of being. But I agree we have all kinds of views and images that we have created of God.
My guess would be God is both a spirit and some type of being. But I agree we have all kinds of views and images that we have created of God.