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Mickiel;1433828 wrote: Translation; you cannot control what I am doing; you cannot stop it; you cannot understand it; you cannot get to it; so obviously you are not going to like it. I can keep asking questions, keep answering those questions, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.

Knowing this pops my cork!


Hey! Any earthling who has made over 1600 posts on FG about a make believe man in the sky is never gonna stop no matter what! :yh_rotfl

You keep on trucking dude ... its your constitutional right!

jones jones;1433830 wrote: Hey! Any earthling who has made over 1600 posts on FG about a make believe man in the sky is never gonna stop no matter what! :yh_rotfl

You keep on trucking dude ... its your constitutional right!




You have made over 5,400 yourself, and I have NEVER, not once, disrespected you and asked you to stop; so there are differences between you and me;

and as we can see, one difference is obvious!

Mickiel;1433833 wrote: You have made over 5,400 yourself, and I have NEVER, not once, disrespected you and asked you to stop; so there are differences between you and me;

and as we can see, one difference is obvious!


Never ever been my intention to disrespect any member here Mickiel. If I have come across like that, then I apologise unreservedly.

jones jones;1433835 wrote: Never ever been my intention to disrespect any member here Mickiel. If I have come across like that, then I apologise unreservedly.




I accept it unreservedly.

Mickiel;1433837 wrote: I accept it unreservedly.


Excellent ... Thank you.

jones jones;1433839 wrote: Excellent ... Thank you.




Well your welcome. That aside;



Is God Real?

Is a headache real? Well we certainly can feel the pain of it for sure; and I think God can be " Felt" for sure; both the good AND the pain of him!

Strange how certain Atheist seem to think its okay for this board to be full of Atheist post, but don't seem to like it being full of Theist post;

that suggest to me that God being real is a worthy topic and relevant question; because if he was not real; Atheist would not worry about it.

God is invisible to us , does that then mean he is not real? Is wind real? Is magnetism real? Are radio waves real?

Just because we cannot physically see something does not mean it is not real. Are emotions real?

Mickiel;1433938 wrote: God is invisible to us , does that then mean he is not real? Is wind real? Is magnetism real? Are radio waves real?

Just because we cannot physically see something does not mean it is not real. Are emotions real?Everything you list is real except for God. Why? Because you propose God as an entity, yet, you fail to provide evidence for God's existence.

en·ti·ty (nt-t)

n. pl. en·ti·ties

1. Something that exists as a particular and discrete unit: Persons and corporations are equivalent entities under the law.

2. The fact of existence; being.

3. The existence of something considered apart from its properties.


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/entity

Ahso!;1433993 wrote: Everything you list is real except for God. Why? Because you propose God as an entity, yet, you fail to provide evidence for God's existence.



entity - definition of entity by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.




YOU are evidence that God exist, your consciousness is evidence that God exist; as is;

Irreducible Complexity

Biogenesis

The Anthropic Principles

Natural selection

Evolution

Devolution

The law of perpectual transmutation

Energy

Spirits

Fossils

Carbon Dating

Biblical Archaeology

History

Historical Archaeology

The Universe

Magnetism

Microbiology

And much much more is evidence of God; you are just not conscious of these things being evidence.

Why, because you say so? Bring your God here and I'll expose him as a fraud.

Everything in your list above with the exception of Spirits are evidence of themselves, not any creator or God. Spirits, as in ghosts, aren't real either.

Ahso!;1434004 wrote: Why, because you say so? Bring your God here and I'll expose him as a fraud.

Everything in your list above with the exception of Spirits are evidence of themselves, not any creator or God. Spirits, as in ghosts, aren't real either.




Well you asked for evidence, here is more evidence of God;

Language

The humming bird

The Kaola bear

Sound

Fire

The Rainbow

Genes

Love

Evil

Females

Romance

Atheism

The scientific revolution

Religion

The rotation of the earth

The Sun

The positioning of planets

The atmosphere of the earth

The living conditions of the earth

And what I will continue to do every day from now on is give at least a list of ten evidences of God, until my list is finished.

And I got a VERY long list.

The evidence of God is a very long list, so I wanted to give a heads up to those who already are tired of my threads; this list is going to take some time; the evidence is exhausting ; such as;

Prayer

Egypt

Jerusalem

Babylon

Water

Thunder

Cultures

Difference in cultures

Birth

Death

Memory

Imagination

Dejavu.

Remember that evidence for God are things which could not have created themselves or brought themselves into existence out of nowhere; thus God is the origin of those things, thus they are evidence of him;

such as;

Good; Good is a way of being, and expression of positive force , it did not create itself, it is not even " A Self", it is a concept; and concepts do not originate from nebulous explosions in space , nor do they crawl out from under a rock. Concepts are created by living beings; good existed before humanity did, and that is stunning evidence of God, who is THE Good!

Such as;

Faith. Faith is another reality that is not self created; it did not come from scientific evolution, science cannot track it in the physical world and give it some physical origin. Faith is again a by product of Gods reality, it is a strong passion extended toward him and an obvious dependance on him. Faith cannot be defined by science and Atheist cannot remove its reality because of their lack of it.

Such as;

Family life

the future

Religious wars

The order in the Universe

The patterns in history

The human eye

A dogs eye

A cats eye

The human digestive system

The dogs digestive system

The cats digestive system.

Is God real?

Is God God?

Who or whatelse could be what God has been to us?

Is God real? Of course he is; don't you listen to these empty souls who fill themselves with themselves and try to give themselves self origin and self meaning. The evidence of God is;

Every sunrise everyday

Healing

Glands

Aging

Babies

Carbon dating

Forgiveness

Cardiovascular design

Nerves

Rectal design

Sleep

Miracles

The steady increase in knowledge.

Causality

Morality

Trees

The 1st living cell

Chirality

The Transcendental argument

Cosmological Argument

Ontological argument

Modal Ontological argument

Life.

Is God real? Is there evidence of God?

Well there most certainly is;

I have studied God for over 50 years and have not found any evidence that he does not exist.

Atheism is evidence of God; in Romans 11:32, " For God has shut up all in disobedience that he might ( later), show Mercy to them ALL! Ohhh, a stunning scripture which reveals that God actually keeps many people from even believing in him; thus, that blindness toward God, ( Atheism), is evidence OF God! Because it has been uniquely done.

Is there evidence of God? Well yes, but like any evidence it must be both seen, recognized and understood enough to process its realness.

Such as;

Time. Time is certainly evidence of a God, because time demands a beginning which is impossible to self generate; something had to begin time at some time, to avoid endless regression, God must be its origin; ONLY a God could have began time.

Such as The Anthropic principles. I will list tons of evidence for God existing, but because there is so much overwhelming evidence, I cannot take the time to individually explain them all; but I have and will a few.

The Anthropic principle; If you walked down a street and found a dime laying on the ground , you would think nothing of it. If you continued to walk and found 3 dimes on the ground, now you may suspect someone has dropped them. If you walk further and find 100 dimes on the ground, each perfectly balanced on their edges and standing up, now you can rightly assume this was " Deliberately Done!" The Universe , Earths suitable Atmosphere and proof it was deliberately suited for humans, is the Anthropic Principle.

Life was obviously deliberately done; its too well ordered and too well balanced to be happenstance luck!

Is God real? Is there evidence of him? Well of course there is; we have these;

The law of Perpetual Transmutation; energy in a constant state of change

The Law of Mentality; the Universe is a mental creation

The size of " Quasars", so large it would take 4 billion light years to cross it while traveling at the speed of light.

The fact that morality can exist without religion

I have read there are around 2,500 Prophecys in the bible, of which 2000 have come true

A closer look at the Theory of Natural selection; is our future really based on the survival of the fittest?

The continuation of life, although many are being tempted to park their brains in the parking lot of real understanding of how life began.

82,868 views? Hmmm...

SnoozeAgain;1434239 wrote: 82,868 views? Hmmm...




That number is like the proof of God I listed as Perpetual Transmutation; Change; every energy in our universe is in a state of Change, like perpetual motion; the views on that thread, 82,868 will continue to change; to grow;

Why?

Is it because of me? Am I that interesting? NO! Its the question itself; its God! People are interested in God, and in interesting views of God. The thread numbers itself is active proof and evidence of that.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics

The New Zealand long finned Eel

The Pacific Golden Plover

Children and Parents

Life Spans

GPS and Monarch Butterflys

Metamorphosis

DNA patterns that only could have been created by intelligence and is impossible to have been random

Hope

Females and their construction and birth capacity

The female womb

The human female emotions

What credible historians have ever proven that God is not real? Where is the credible scientific data that proves God is not real?

Can you prove that God didNOT create;

The Termite

The Horse Fly

The Hummingbird

The Spider

The Giraffe

The Buffalo

The Roach

The Bat

The Tiger

The Hyena

Where is the credible data that proves these created themselves? That the first of these species generated their own lives, designed their ownselves and burst through existence into life portals and of their own doing, started their own bloodlines?

Is God real? Is there evidence of God?

Well lets look into that.

What purpose should you look for evidence of God, when purpose itself is evidence of him.

Is God real? This morning I walked and saw a wild little Rabbit; I saw some lovely flowers in bloom; all the grass was very green, and I saw a cardinal flying by at twisting slow speed.

Of course God is real.

If we look at God being real and culture in history, there is plenty of cultures that believed in God or gods. Here are just a few of them;

Aztec

Babylonian

Canaanite

Celtic

Chinese

Egyptian

Greek

Hindu

Japan

Maya

Norse

Roman

Sumerian.

Talking in circles! That's what the name of this thread should be.

Is God real?

Well is he?

Mickiel;1434540 wrote: Is God real?

Well is he?


As real as the Easter bunny, the tooth fairy & Santa I guess.

Mickiel;1434540 wrote: Is God real?

Well is he?By what you've posted throughout this forum, you're not convinced your God is real. Your God is a total figment of your imagination. You make him up as you go. You've been constructing God, not believing in him.

Quote Originally Posted by SnoozeAgain

82,868 views? Hmmm...


Mickiel;1434240 wrote: That number is like the proof of God I listed as Perpetual Transmutation; Change; every energy in our universe is in a state of Change, like perpetual motion; the views on that thread, 82,868 will continue to change; to grow;




I contend that most of the views are made by Mickiel himself. Whenever I check in on 'Who's Online' Mickiel is Always Only reading his own posts. The fact that I say this is proof that it is True. God told me.

AnneBoleyn;1434552 wrote: I contend that most of the views are made by Mickiel himself. Whenever I check in on 'Who's Online' Mickiel is Always Only reading his own posts. The fact that I say this is proof that it is True. God told me.And people like me who argue with him. Then there's the bots that account for a lot of hits and then there's those who look and just scratch their head or laugh. There has been a minute number of people who have actually stopped by to say they agree with anything Mickey's written and they account for perhaps 25 hits.

He's not the prophet he thinks he is.

AnneBoleyn;1434552 wrote: I contend that most of the views are made by Mickiel himself. Whenever I check in on 'Who's Online' Mickiel is Always Only reading his own posts. The fact that I say this is proof that it is True. God told me.


I can say for a fact that I certainly read my post and often learn from them; never knowing each day what will come out.

And I know for a fact that I got one view today from you!

Well I think its safe for me to post now. I am going to continue this thread, and this one only in this section, one more in another section. I think just two threads should be acceptable? That will be a new standard for me, two threads only at a time. In this manner there will be more peace. And I believe in peace, and of course I attribute it to God and his way; that desire in me is evidence that God is real in me; I can't make up peace on my own.

And humans could not have made up God on their own; and I am going to go into that, just what it would take for humanity to have made up God, and show the impossibility of it.

I know humans hold imagination, but if God is not real, but the result of human imagination, then that would be just as unlikely as the imagined theory that all life resulted from an imaginary explosion in space which somehow, by some incredible luck, birthed the entire universe. In order for humans to have imagined God, then that means they would have to first have imagined religion and the bible and any other original foundations of this spiritual story in all the cultures and peoples they historically exist in. Thats a large bill to ask from imagination to pay as truth. That means over 100 different cultures imagined the same or similar thing, which would be impossible in my view. Your asking that religion be the source of imagination; religion is one of the most basic, largest foundations humanity was founded on and involved in; yet your asking that this giant in our lives and history, be considered as the result of our imagination. Stunning in its implication, and incredible in the demands placed on early human imagination; just to maintain that God is not real.

To even imply that the bible, in all its real proven history, its 66 books, the history of how it was written, its proven archaeology, was all imagined, is incredible speculation; just as incredible as random theory of the origin of this vast universe.

" The first human imagination." Similar to the " First human cell debunk", for God to have been imagined there must have been a first human to imagine it. That human, in arcane speculation, had to have the most incredible prophetic mind ever! First he or she imagines there is " A God", then he develops that thought, then shares that thought, and all of religion, the bible, and human belief was born from that.

Get Real!

Please!

I couldnot even base such reaching speculation on intelligence.

For God to have been invented, that means the historical Jesus was invented, which means the historical Abraham was invented, which means ancient Israel was invented, which would mean Jerusalem was imagined, which would mean that history has lied, geographics in the Middle East is a fake, all of discovered biblical archaeology is a scam, historical writers lied, and well over half the humans who have lived for the last 30,000 years are dense in their minds for believing this incredible imagined propaganda.

Get real; God is real!

To even imply that God is not real and a figment of human imagination, is really a step into fantasy anyway; a complete denial of reality. It was God who created and quaterbacked our reality; really, the imagination of science is what one could call an elaborate scam that is not real, or based on reality. The theories ( or imagination) of science has taken incredible leaps in reality to explain what God has done, without admitting God has done it.

How could early man imagine God? Why would they imagine a God if it were not one? What would have been their motivation? If God was invented, who invented him and why? Why was he invented? For what, if there was not one? If mankind was self created or self groomed or created by some science, then self and science would have been the god. Meaning the world would have been Atheist from its conception.

As I explained in another thread, Primordial man faced sure extinction ; then after the ice age, faced with sure elimination, what happened? Its as if doomed humanity made an unexpected right turn and exploded off into an entirely new conscious direction that led to civilization.

If that does not prove intervention from a God being, I don't know what would!

Many scientist believed God existed;

Nicolaus Copernicus

Johannes Kepler

Galileo Galilei

Rene Descartes

Blaise Pascal

John Ray

Isaac Newton

Lousi Pasteur

Pamela Gay

Justin l. Barrett

Ard Louis

Jennifer Wiseman

John Lennox.

Belief and knowledge are two very different things, Mickey. Get a clue.

Mickiel;1435021 wrote: Many scientist believed God existed;

Nicolaus Copernicus

Johannes Kepler

Galileo Galilei

Rene Descartes

Blaise Pascal

John Ray

Isaac Newton

Lousi Pasteur

Pamela Gay

Justin l. Barrett

Ard Louis

Jennifer Wiseman

John Lennox.




If you would like to see a list of over 300 scientist who accept creation and believe in God, you can go to answersingenesis.org - creation scientist, and Wikipedias list of Christian thinkers in science; both have an impressive list.

Mickiel;1435025 wrote: If you would like to see a list of over 300 scientist who accept creation and believe in God, you can go to answersingenesis.org - creation scientist, and Wikipedias list of Christian thinkers in science; both have an impressive list.




The answers in Genesis site gives a most impressive list of current scientist who accept creation by God. Some of them could no longer see the randomness of their own theory, could no longer hide behind scientific theory that is trying to pull away from the obvious; could no longer be hypocrites of knowledge.

Just as science left the church to go out on their own direction, they are slowly coming back to a real search for the divine.

Is God then real? Of course he is real, just look at " Proteins", which are impossible to form except in already living cells.

Proteins must fold perfectly.

Scientist cannot make DNA or RNA in a lab.

Turning Proteins off! If a first living cell had formed itself without a creator, the cell would still have had to replace each of its proteins as soon as it wore out. If the cell did not contain the information to correctly turn on and off, the production of the replacement proteins, the cell would have died as soon as the first protein wore out. Stunning evidence of a Creator who knows how to turn on and off Proteins!

Answers In Genesis is a religious propaganda site, it brings zero value to a legitimate discussion.

Is God real? Keep a calendar in your place, and begin to write down world affairs. Notice the constant and growing attention the Middle East will keep demanding; and know that it was all predicted in the Bible. By men influenced by a real God years ago.

The evolution of chemicals to a first cell is scientifically impossible. Proteins, Cell membranes, RNA, DNA, or information will form in nature only in already living Cells. If one part could have formed, it would have broken down while it was waiting for the others. All would have to have come about at almost exactly the same time and location and immediately teamed up to form life. Figure the odds of that, and you can figure that God is real.