Hi all, Newbie here.
I've just drifted in after being banned for the 4th time from an extreme right wing American Forum. Ok I admit, I did troll them but usually in response to some highly vitriolic anti English / British abuse. They hate our teeth, the Queen, FutBol, black pudding et al.
I'm asking here for views or experiences with conservative Americans, Their views and how you perceive Americans and America as viewed from this sceptred Isle.
Al
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Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
[QUOTE=crazygal;571410]Erm, you already posted this thread.
Yeah I know, but in the wrong place. Im interested in views from Brits..
Al
:guitarist
Yeah I know, but in the wrong place. Im interested in views from Brits..
Al
:guitarist
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
Maybe he didn't like the earlier replies, I certainly didn't. What's wrong with a second shot at it?
I've never met an American I didn't like, but I've met very few. As for those I talk to online, I've rarely felt uncomfortable. Some tend to have assumptions that I don't share but that's true of a rather higher proportion of English acquaintances as well. Online I probably have more American than English attributes. In person that might not be so apparent but it's still there underneath. I'm far more New World than Old World in my approach to life. In summary: love em.
I've never met an American I didn't like, but I've met very few. As for those I talk to online, I've rarely felt uncomfortable. Some tend to have assumptions that I don't share but that's true of a rather higher proportion of English acquaintances as well. Online I probably have more American than English attributes. In person that might not be so apparent but it's still there underneath. I'm far more New World than Old World in my approach to life. In summary: love em.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
I report directly into the Global VP, who is in the UK. The majority of our team sits in the US, so I have to deal with them every day.
I find on the whole they are VERY polite, Politically Correct to the point of paranoia, and really nice to work with. They've come over here a few times too and from what I can tell, they LOVE England (one of them had never set foot outside the US)
The only problem that I have with the US is their lack of cultural awareness. They see Europe as one 'Country' and sometimes struggle to understand the cultural nuances of the different countries.
Apart from that, I love em.
I find on the whole they are VERY polite, Politically Correct to the point of paranoia, and really nice to work with. They've come over here a few times too and from what I can tell, they LOVE England (one of them had never set foot outside the US)
The only problem that I have with the US is their lack of cultural awareness. They see Europe as one 'Country' and sometimes struggle to understand the cultural nuances of the different countries.
Apart from that, I love em.
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
Elvira;571416 wrote: I report directly into the Global VP, who is in the UK. The majority of our team sits in the US, so I have to deal with them every day.
I find on the whole they are VERY polite, Politically Correct to the point of paranoia, and really nice to work with. They've come over here a few times too and from what I can tell, they LOVE England (one of them had never set foot outside the US)
The only problem that I have with the US is their lack of cultural awareness. They see Europe as one 'Country' and sometimes struggle to understand the cultural nuances of the different countries.
Apart from that, I love em.
I agree with what you say with physical aquaintances with American people. I suppose It's their Internet Persona and psyche that I'm intersted in.
Al
:guitarist
I find on the whole they are VERY polite, Politically Correct to the point of paranoia, and really nice to work with. They've come over here a few times too and from what I can tell, they LOVE England (one of them had never set foot outside the US)
The only problem that I have with the US is their lack of cultural awareness. They see Europe as one 'Country' and sometimes struggle to understand the cultural nuances of the different countries.
Apart from that, I love em.
I agree with what you say with physical aquaintances with American people. I suppose It's their Internet Persona and psyche that I'm intersted in.
Al
:guitarist
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
almurray;571422 wrote: It's their Internet Persona and psyche that I'm intersted in.In general on forums most tend to have a limited understanding of history and a strange view of America's place in it. The English were similarly blinkered a hundred years ago, the "lesser breeds without the law" tends nowadays to be a view of the world from the other side of the pond.
If, drunk with sight of power, we loose
Wild tongues that have not Thee in awe -
Such boasting as the Gentiles use
Or lesser breeds without the Law -
Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget, lest we forget!
If, drunk with sight of power, we loose
Wild tongues that have not Thee in awe -
Such boasting as the Gentiles use
Or lesser breeds without the Law -
Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget, lest we forget!
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
spot;571426 wrote: In general on forums most tend to have a limited understanding of history and a strange view of America's place in it. The English were similarly blinkered a hundred years ago, the "lesser breeds without the law" tends nowadays to be a view of the world from the other side of the pond.
If, drunk with sight of power, we loose
Wild tongues that have not Thee in awe -
Such boasting as the Gentiles use
Or lesser breeds without the Law -
Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget, lest we forget!
Great Post, very well put.
My experience with the right wing forum was quite unnerving. In full flow the Anti-Brit/Europe vitriol was quite surreal.
To Precis, The common conscenus of this small group (about 70) was that we are all "Socialist Euro Turds" with a lack of hygeine and culture, living in a third world seedy country, rescued in ww2 and with a vicious resentment about the war of independence.
War of Indepence? I can't ever remember being taught about it at school. We always seemed to study our natural enemy.... The French!!
Oi Vey, C'est La Vie, It's an interesting world.
Al
:guitarist
If, drunk with sight of power, we loose
Wild tongues that have not Thee in awe -
Such boasting as the Gentiles use
Or lesser breeds without the Law -
Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget, lest we forget!
Great Post, very well put.
My experience with the right wing forum was quite unnerving. In full flow the Anti-Brit/Europe vitriol was quite surreal.
To Precis, The common conscenus of this small group (about 70) was that we are all "Socialist Euro Turds" with a lack of hygeine and culture, living in a third world seedy country, rescued in ww2 and with a vicious resentment about the war of independence.
War of Indepence? I can't ever remember being taught about it at school. We always seemed to study our natural enemy.... The French!!
Oi Vey, C'est La Vie, It's an interesting world.
Al
:guitarist
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
almurray;571428 wrote: The common conscenus of this small group (about 70) was that we are all "Socialist Euro Turds" with a lack of hygeine and culture, living in a third world seedy country, rescued in ww2 and with a vicious resentment about the war of independence.
And you talk funny.
Just kidding!
Welcome to the melting pot!!!
And you talk funny.
Just kidding!
Welcome to the melting pot!!!
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
I know lots of Americans. They happen to be intelligent ones so they are interesting. However, when it comes to their feelings about 'the homeland' I cannot relate them. My friend told me that he had to salute the American flag every single day of his school life. Another of my American friends is highly intelligent and socially liberal but still suports the republicans....she hates the Clintons because Bill had an affair! There is a completely different emphasis in American politics. I mean, would anyone REALLY care if Tony Blair had a fling so long as he was doing his job well??
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
BH672;571431 wrote: And you talk funny.
Just kidding!
Welcome to the melting pot!!!
Nah....
We Speak Properly
Just Kidding really :wah:
You would't understand me. I'm a Geordie
Al
:guitarist
Just kidding!
Welcome to the melting pot!!!
Nah....
We Speak Properly
Just Kidding really :wah:
You would't understand me. I'm a Geordie
Al
:guitarist
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
sharkie;571434 wrote: My friend told me that he had to salute the American flag every single day of his school life. Nonono - point of information. Compulsion for either that or pledging allegiance at school is non-constitutional, both are purely voluntary acts.
See http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hamilton/20040826.html for example.
See http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hamilton/20040826.html for example.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
spot;571415 wrote: Maybe he didn't like the earlier replies, I certainly didn't. What's wrong with a second shot at it?
I've never met an American I didn't like, but I've met very few. As for those I talk to online, I've rarely felt uncomfortable. Some tend to have assumptions that I don't share but that's true of a rather higher proportion of English acquaintances as well. Online I probably have more American than English attributes. In person that might not be so apparent but it's still there underneath. I'm far more New World than Old World in my approach to life. In summary: love em.
We love you too Spot.:-4
I've never met an American I didn't like, but I've met very few. As for those I talk to online, I've rarely felt uncomfortable. Some tend to have assumptions that I don't share but that's true of a rather higher proportion of English acquaintances as well. Online I probably have more American than English attributes. In person that might not be so apparent but it's still there underneath. I'm far more New World than Old World in my approach to life. In summary: love em.
We love you too Spot.:-4
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
I'm Spot's favorite! :p :-4
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
Pinky;571699 wrote: Trolls: Love 'em or hate 'em?
I love 'em...gives me summat to play with!:sneaky:
You can play with me.
Al
:guitarist
I love 'em...gives me summat to play with!:sneaky:
You can play with me.
Al
:guitarist
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
Pinky;571745 wrote: Oo-er mister!
Put the instrument down now...*snigger*
It's a penny Whistle. NOT a Bassoon
:-4
Al
:guitarist
Put the instrument down now...*snigger*
It's a penny Whistle. NOT a Bassoon
:-4
Al
:guitarist
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Pinky;571763 wrote: And there was me thinking it was a guitar!!:wah:
Oh.......that Instrument...........thought you were being metaphorical
so I replied metaphorically
Al
:guitarist
Oh.......that Instrument...........thought you were being metaphorical
so I replied metaphorically
Al
:guitarist
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
Pinky;571785 wrote: Hehe, I was...I thought I'd have a bit of a laugh with it though!
I'm not saying anything about what the smilie's doing to the guitar though, that could go very wrong!
:wah:
It never seems to end for him, poor sod
Al
:guitarist
I'm not saying anything about what the smilie's doing to the guitar though, that could go very wrong!
:wah:It never seems to end for him, poor sod
Al
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RedGlitter
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sharkie;571434 wrote: I know lots of Americans. They happen to be intelligent ones so they are interesting. However, when it comes to their feelings about 'the homeland' I cannot relate them. My friend told me that he had to salute the American flag every single day of his school life. Another of my American friends is highly intelligent and socially liberal but still suports the republicans....she hates the Clintons because Bill had an affair! There is a completely different emphasis in American politics. I mean, would anyone REALLY care if Tony Blair had a fling so long as he was doing his job well??
Thats true about the flag. While certain kids (ie Jehovah's Witnesses) can get out of it, it is the way almost every public school kid has to start their day, by saying a bunch of rhetoric they may not even believe in. When I was in high school I refused to stand or say the pledge and I was promptly called out by the teacher for exercising my personal freedom. Even now in public meetings and such, I do not say the pledge and I do not publicly pray.
Re: Clinton and other infidels: some of us care a great deal about integrity in ourselves and in our politicians. I voted twice for Clinton but changed my mind when he cheated on his wife. Yes a blowjob is cheating. If he can't keep a promise to his own wife, how am I supposed to believe he can or will keep an oath to his country? I am always amazed by people who think an affair doesn't matter. If he was a thief would that not be a problem either? Morals and integrity help define one's character and I don't want lousy character in my president. For what it's worth, I would not vote for Hillary for Pres either because she did the unclassy thing and tolerated it. Had she kicked his cheating mangy a** to the curb like a proper woman, I might have some respect for her. So no, a cheating president is NOT doing his job well because he's lost the integrity to represent my country. Do you understand now?
Thats true about the flag. While certain kids (ie Jehovah's Witnesses) can get out of it, it is the way almost every public school kid has to start their day, by saying a bunch of rhetoric they may not even believe in. When I was in high school I refused to stand or say the pledge and I was promptly called out by the teacher for exercising my personal freedom. Even now in public meetings and such, I do not say the pledge and I do not publicly pray.
Re: Clinton and other infidels: some of us care a great deal about integrity in ourselves and in our politicians. I voted twice for Clinton but changed my mind when he cheated on his wife. Yes a blowjob is cheating. If he can't keep a promise to his own wife, how am I supposed to believe he can or will keep an oath to his country? I am always amazed by people who think an affair doesn't matter. If he was a thief would that not be a problem either? Morals and integrity help define one's character and I don't want lousy character in my president. For what it's worth, I would not vote for Hillary for Pres either because she did the unclassy thing and tolerated it. Had she kicked his cheating mangy a** to the curb like a proper woman, I might have some respect for her. So no, a cheating president is NOT doing his job well because he's lost the integrity to represent my country. Do you understand now?
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
This thread isn't the same as the other. The other one had the Hate Em option first.
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almurray;571428 wrote: To Precis, The common conscenus of this small group (about 70) was that we are all "Socialist Euro Turds" with a lack of hygeine and culture, living in a third world seedy country, rescued in ww2 and with a vicious resentment about the war of independence. guitarist
I'm not sure I believe any of this. You still haven't named the forum, or PM'd
the name of it. What was the forum?
I'm not sure I believe any of this. You still haven't named the forum, or PM'd
the name of it. What was the forum?
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[QUOTE=Bill Sikes;572418]I'm not sure I believe any of this. You still haven't named the forum, or PM'd
the name of it. What was the forum?[/QUOTE
Not prepared to divulge taht, Sorry Bill.
Al
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the name of it. What was the forum?[/QUOTE
Not prepared to divulge taht, Sorry Bill.
Al
:guitarist
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almurray;572482 wrote: [quote=Bill Sikes;572418]I'm not sure I believe any of this. You still haven't named the forum, or PM'd
the name of it. What was the forum?[/QUOTE
Not prepared to divulge taht, Sorry Bill.
Al
:guitarist
how about a photo then bullet head :wah: :wah:
the name of it. What was the forum?[/QUOTE
Not prepared to divulge taht, Sorry Bill.
Al
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how about a photo then bullet head :wah: :wah:
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almurray;572482 wrote: [QUOTE=Bill Sikes;572418]I'm not sure I believe any of this. You still haven't named the forum, or PM'd
the name of it. What was the forum?[/QUOTE
Not prepared to divulge taht, Sorry Bill.
Al
guitarist
Well, there you are - I knew it was all made up. Try trolling off.
the name of it. What was the forum?[/QUOTE
Not prepared to divulge taht, Sorry Bill.
Al
guitarist
Well, there you are - I knew it was all made up. Try trolling off.
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flopstock;572492 wrote: [quote=almurray;572482]
Why not- if they've banned you?
I'd love to go straighten these folks out.
They are beyond redemption.
Al
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Why not- if they've banned you?
I'd love to go straighten these folks out.
They are beyond redemption.
Al
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flopstock;572492 wrote:
Why not- if they've banned you?confused:
I'd love to go straighten these folks out.D
Pssst! "It's a *story*"!
Why not- if they've banned you?confused:
I'd love to go straighten these folks out.D
Pssst! "It's a *story*"!
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Well, LOOKIE HERE, a thread started about hating Americans and liking Americans and when Sweet Tooth started one wanting to know why the Brits hated Americans, she was harrassed and took alot of mean hits for it.
Hmmmmmmmbull$hitmmmmmm. Weird, huh?
Hmmmmmmmbull$hitmmmmmm. Weird, huh?
HBIC
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RedGlitter;572329 wrote: Thats true about the flag. While certain kids (ie Jehovah's Witnesses) can get out of it, it is the way almost every public school kid has to start their day, by saying a bunch of rhetoric they may not even believe in. When I was in high school I refused to stand or say the pledge and I was promptly called out by the teacher for exercising my personal freedom. Even now in public meetings and such, I do not say the pledge and I do not publicly pray.
Re: Clinton and other infidels: some of us care a great deal about integrity in ourselves and in our politicians. I voted twice for Clinton but changed my mind when he cheated on his wife. Yes a blowjob is cheating. If he can't keep a promise to his own wife, how am I supposed to believe he can or will keep an oath to his country? I am always amazed by people who think an affair doesn't matter. If he was a thief would that not be a problem either? Morals and integrity help define one's character and I don't want lousy character in my president. For what it's worth, I would not vote for Hillary for Pres either because she did the unclassy thing and tolerated it. Had she kicked his cheating mangy a** to the curb like a proper woman, I might have some respect for her. So no, a cheating president is NOT doing his job well because he's lost the integrity to represent my country. Do you understand now?
Yes RG, we do understand, but we find it kinda strange that you are more concerned with the sexual morality of politicians as opposed to how they actually perform as leaders, we don't have the same thing here where the Prime Minister also has to embody "superhero" values as well as just being another devious, untrustworthy politician. Bush lied about the premise of a war, a fricking war! But Clinton lied about a blow job, and they are supposed to be morally equivalent?? Erm?
In one way its nice that you would put so much faith in human nature, in another it seems a little naive to us, and very much to do with this robust "Christian" morality trip you guys have over there, little to do with running the affairs of state. Also the flip side is that while Bill was president, the budget was balanced, the economy was doing well, and the foreigners generally got on with you, the current guy is a total disaster, yet I have heard many excuses along the lines of "well, he is a decent guy" or "I like his honesty" or, "he understand us", thats all very well, but he has made a disaster out of the economy, the war (which he point blank lied to the world about so he could start it), and America's image abroad, and they are far, far more important issues that getting a blow-job of some young wan, that I do really find kinda strange.
Look at Tony Blair in England, he has all the Clinton smarm thing, but yes, people are very angry at him because, specifically he lied about the war, and lying in this way that involves the death of hundreds of thousands of people, is far more grotesque the lying about having sex, where no one actually dies (unless its really kinky).
Re: Clinton and other infidels: some of us care a great deal about integrity in ourselves and in our politicians. I voted twice for Clinton but changed my mind when he cheated on his wife. Yes a blowjob is cheating. If he can't keep a promise to his own wife, how am I supposed to believe he can or will keep an oath to his country? I am always amazed by people who think an affair doesn't matter. If he was a thief would that not be a problem either? Morals and integrity help define one's character and I don't want lousy character in my president. For what it's worth, I would not vote for Hillary for Pres either because she did the unclassy thing and tolerated it. Had she kicked his cheating mangy a** to the curb like a proper woman, I might have some respect for her. So no, a cheating president is NOT doing his job well because he's lost the integrity to represent my country. Do you understand now?
Yes RG, we do understand, but we find it kinda strange that you are more concerned with the sexual morality of politicians as opposed to how they actually perform as leaders, we don't have the same thing here where the Prime Minister also has to embody "superhero" values as well as just being another devious, untrustworthy politician. Bush lied about the premise of a war, a fricking war! But Clinton lied about a blow job, and they are supposed to be morally equivalent?? Erm?
In one way its nice that you would put so much faith in human nature, in another it seems a little naive to us, and very much to do with this robust "Christian" morality trip you guys have over there, little to do with running the affairs of state. Also the flip side is that while Bill was president, the budget was balanced, the economy was doing well, and the foreigners generally got on with you, the current guy is a total disaster, yet I have heard many excuses along the lines of "well, he is a decent guy" or "I like his honesty" or, "he understand us", thats all very well, but he has made a disaster out of the economy, the war (which he point blank lied to the world about so he could start it), and America's image abroad, and they are far, far more important issues that getting a blow-job of some young wan, that I do really find kinda strange.
Look at Tony Blair in England, he has all the Clinton smarm thing, but yes, people are very angry at him because, specifically he lied about the war, and lying in this way that involves the death of hundreds of thousands of people, is far more grotesque the lying about having sex, where no one actually dies (unless its really kinky).
"We are never so happy, never so unhappy, as we imagine"
Le Rochefoucauld.
"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.
Le Rochefoucauld.
"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.
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It alway amazes me how people don't get it when it comes to the role character plays. That guy's in there representing *me* and my country and effectually saying "look at me cheat on my wife, no one cares because I brought taxes down" or whatever. "So I'm a mangy cheat, it has nothing to do with my personal character." Well I do care. And it's not just Clinton, it's a number of skanks, even JFK who seems to be so revered yet couldn't keep his wedding ring attached to his zipper. A lot of Americans seem to be unconcerned as well but I find it a foreign thing almost that infidelity is so well accepted. I am not so sure our stance on it is about being christian but rather that something many of us hold sacred regardless whose marriage it's in, has been dirtied. A leader who says "I will keep my wife and remain faithful" and then screws around as if its nothing, in my opinion, is not a leader who will put his country first. Why is this so difficult for others to understand?
You didn't hear me say those things about Bush because I cannot stand him. he is an embarrassment to me. That said, I get tired of wearing the black eye for all he does. I didn't vote for him. Foreigners act as if we have Bush on a leash and can puppet him any way that is desirable but that isn't so. With any president. This one happens to be a danger running amok, I agree.
Yet why don't I feel this same hatred of Tony Blair that other countries feel toward him or even toward Bush? Why am I not blaming another person's country for what Blair does? Or even better, blaming the people themselves? I think it's time the collective finger was turned back in on itself for a while.
You didn't hear me say those things about Bush because I cannot stand him. he is an embarrassment to me. That said, I get tired of wearing the black eye for all he does. I didn't vote for him. Foreigners act as if we have Bush on a leash and can puppet him any way that is desirable but that isn't so. With any president. This one happens to be a danger running amok, I agree.
Yet why don't I feel this same hatred of Tony Blair that other countries feel toward him or even toward Bush? Why am I not blaming another person's country for what Blair does? Or even better, blaming the people themselves? I think it's time the collective finger was turned back in on itself for a while.
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flopstock;572550 wrote: The Christian morality trip is not everyone over here, ya know? It just seems like it because they are loud about it. The rest of us are too busy having monkey sex to be vocal about others sex life...:sneaky:
ER MONKEY SEX i JUST GOTTA ASK DOES THAT INVOLVE SWINGING :rolleyes: :wah:
ER MONKEY SEX i JUST GOTTA ASK DOES THAT INVOLVE SWINGING :rolleyes: :wah:
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
Galbally;572520 wrote: Yes RG, we do understand, but we find it kinda strange that you are more concerned with the sexual morality of politicians as opposed to how they actually perform as leaders, it's not that we're more concerned but rather that we see it as part of the whole package (no pun intended):o we don't have the same thing here where the Prime Minister also has to embody "superhero" values as well as just being another devious, untrustworthy politician. well, personally I've never concerned myself with anyone else's sex life either and I doubt that anyone in the US ever thought about the president in that way but when it happened and we had to hear about it in the news everyday for months then it became a hot topic for everyone. Somehow I doubt that news like that would be ignored by the media and everyone else no matter what country you're in... Bush lied about the premise of a war, a fricking war! But Clinton lied about a blow job, and they are supposed to be morally equivalent?? I've never heard anyone here compare the two....
In one way its nice that you would put so much faith in human nature, in another it seems a little naive to us, and very much to do with this robust "Christian" morality trip you guys have over there, little to do with running the affairs of state. that is not true at all but if people from other countries are going to assume they know what Americans feel and think than there's not much we can do about it?? Also the flip side is that while Bill was president, the budget was balanced, the economy was doing well, and the foreigners generally got on with you, things were not as rosy with Clinton as people like to believe but ex-presidents are always seen in a better light than current ones...the current guy is a total disaster, yet I have heard many excuses along the lines of "well, he is a decent guy" or "I like his honesty" or, "he understand us", thats all very well, but he has made a disaster out of the economy, the war (which he point blank lied to the world about so he could start it), and America's image abroad,it's ignorant to me that people are going to condemn the people of an entire country over decisions made by politicians, although the US always gets bashed by other countries so right now doesn't really feel much different for us.... and they are far, far more important issues that getting a blow-job of some young wan, that I do really find kinda strange.
Look at Tony Blair in England, he has all the Clinton smarm thing, but yes, people are very angry at him because, specifically he lied about the war, and lying in this way that involves the death of hundreds of thousands of people, is far more grotesque the lying about having sex, where no one actually dies (unless its really kinky).
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Bush lied about the premise of a war, a fricking war! But Clinton lied about a blow job, and they are supposed to be morally equivalent?? I've never heard anyone here compare the two....In one way its nice that you would put so much faith in human nature, in another it seems a little naive to us, and very much to do with this robust "Christian" morality trip you guys have over there, little to do with running the affairs of state. that is not true at all but if people from other countries are going to assume they know what Americans feel and think than there's not much we can do about it?? Also the flip side is that while Bill was president, the budget was balanced, the economy was doing well, and the foreigners generally got on with you, things were not as rosy with Clinton as people like to believe but ex-presidents are always seen in a better light than current ones...the current guy is a total disaster, yet I have heard many excuses along the lines of "well, he is a decent guy" or "I like his honesty" or, "he understand us", thats all very well, but he has made a disaster out of the economy, the war (which he point blank lied to the world about so he could start it), and America's image abroad,it's ignorant to me that people are going to condemn the people of an entire country over decisions made by politicians, although the US always gets bashed by other countries so right now doesn't really feel much different for us....
and they are far, far more important issues that getting a blow-job of some young wan, that I do really find kinda strange. Look at Tony Blair in England, he has all the Clinton smarm thing, but yes, people are very angry at him because, specifically he lied about the war, and lying in this way that involves the death of hundreds of thousands of people, is far more grotesque the lying about having sex, where no one actually dies (unless its really kinky).
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Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
jimbo;572552 wrote: ER MONKEY SEX i JUST GOTTA ASK DOES THAT INVOLVE SWINGING :rolleyes: :wah:
no, just a very large banana.....
no, just a very large banana.....
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
Bill Sikes;572418 wrote: I'm not sure I believe any of this. You still haven't named the forum, or PM'd
the name of it. What was the forum?
Ok,
Just Received an unsolicited mail from the Forum
Pull the wank out your bum, EuroTurd boy, I got the news you have been waiting for.
I arrive at London Gatwick Airport on May 19, Saturday at 8:30 on US Air #732.
Email me your address you socialist, homosexual, piece of Eurotrash, and I'll bring you your very special gift.
Or better, meet me at the Airport. That way we can have more "quality" time while I get to know you as a kamerade in arms.
Last chance Lil'Al, suck it up and face the music. If I have to, I'll just track you down without your help.
Your loving Nazi, rimshots your way!
AM
Strange people Indeed. Advice needed. What would you do with these people??
Al
:guitarist
the name of it. What was the forum?
Ok,
Just Received an unsolicited mail from the Forum
Pull the wank out your bum, EuroTurd boy, I got the news you have been waiting for.
I arrive at London Gatwick Airport on May 19, Saturday at 8:30 on US Air #732.
Email me your address you socialist, homosexual, piece of Eurotrash, and I'll bring you your very special gift.
Or better, meet me at the Airport. That way we can have more "quality" time while I get to know you as a kamerade in arms.
Last chance Lil'Al, suck it up and face the music. If I have to, I'll just track you down without your help.
Your loving Nazi, rimshots your way!
AM
Strange people Indeed. Advice needed. What would you do with these people??
Al
:guitarist
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
flopstock;572653 wrote: Dear Al,
I simply don't care.
You have nothing to prove to me, one way or the other.
All I need from you is interesting conversation, I don't care how or why you bring the topic up. So, I would advise that you not get sidetracked by folks who do question your motive... just stay on topic(or veer off into areas that make me laugh) and you will remain interesting to me.
I won't agree with you on most everything, you feel free to return the favor..
Welcome aboard:-6
diane
Well............I Disagree
AL
:guitarist
I simply don't care.
You have nothing to prove to me, one way or the other.
All I need from you is interesting conversation, I don't care how or why you bring the topic up. So, I would advise that you not get sidetracked by folks who do question your motive... just stay on topic(or veer off into areas that make me laugh) and you will remain interesting to me.
I won't agree with you on most everything, you feel free to return the favor..
Welcome aboard:-6
diane
Well............I Disagree
AL
:guitarist
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
flopstock;572665 wrote: There ya go sweetie! I love ya already!!:wah:
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Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
almurray;572588 wrote: Ok,
Just Received an unsolicited mail from the Forum
[snip] I arrive at London Gatwick Airport on May 19, Saturday at 8:30 on US
Air #732.
AM
Strange people Indeed. Advice needed. What would you do with these people??
Al
guitarist
You could always look up "AM", who's arriving on Saturday May 19th. at 8:30
(either am or pm) at London Gatwick Airport on US Air #732. Then you'd be
able to find out much more. However, you haven't (again) provided the forum
name in this thread or by PM - and anyone can easily make up e-mails or that
sort of thing. So, I still think you're telling stories .
Just Received an unsolicited mail from the Forum
[snip] I arrive at London Gatwick Airport on May 19, Saturday at 8:30 on US
Air #732.
AM
Strange people Indeed. Advice needed. What would you do with these people??
Al
guitarist
You could always look up "AM", who's arriving on Saturday May 19th. at 8:30
(either am or pm) at London Gatwick Airport on US Air #732. Then you'd be
able to find out much more. However, you haven't (again) provided the forum
name in this thread or by PM - and anyone can easily make up e-mails or that
sort of thing. So, I still think you're telling stories .
Americans? Love em or Hate Em??
sunny104;572559 wrote:
Just a couple of observations :-
I do not think that most people here hold the actions of the administration against Americans in general but, please, allow us to express our disgust at the actions of that administration.
That just the fact that "Clinton's Blow Job" is in the news for a long period makes it an important topic shows a disturbing degree of manipulation of public opinion by the media - if it's not important when it happens then constant repitition does not make it important.
That so many of the Americans on FG have said that they could not possibly support Hillary because she has not ditched Bill (or equivalent statements about other politicians) without saying that they cannot support X Y or Z because they supported the war in Iraq is an indication of relative importance - you don't need to directly compare the two to make your feelings known.
I felt that Galbally's post was a fair summation of the European perception of
the state of play in America - at least consider it as an outsiders viewpoint.
Just a couple of observations :-
I do not think that most people here hold the actions of the administration against Americans in general but, please, allow us to express our disgust at the actions of that administration.
That just the fact that "Clinton's Blow Job" is in the news for a long period makes it an important topic shows a disturbing degree of manipulation of public opinion by the media - if it's not important when it happens then constant repitition does not make it important.
That so many of the Americans on FG have said that they could not possibly support Hillary because she has not ditched Bill (or equivalent statements about other politicians) without saying that they cannot support X Y or Z because they supported the war in Iraq is an indication of relative importance - you don't need to directly compare the two to make your feelings known.
I felt that Galbally's post was a fair summation of the European perception of
the state of play in America - at least consider it as an outsiders viewpoint.