The Referendum

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:07 pm

So, a single yes / no vote - no possibility of devolution.

Who's won the battle and will that determine who wins the war?

It certainly looks as though the votes has lost

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:09 pm

I don't know what you're referring to.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:12 pm

Ahso!;1408087 wrote: I don't know what you're referring to.

Deliberately so Sir

A local spat of little importance on the world stage but one that will ignite intense feelings in one small corner of a foreign field.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:13 pm

Scotland?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:16 pm

I really should not play games - it is unbecoming.

The terms of the referendum for Scottish independence have been signed and they are, as expected, based on the politics of the parties involved rather than the possible wishes of the electorate.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:16 pm

AnneBoleyn;1408091 wrote: Scotland?

Indeed so

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:20 pm

I found it unsettling, but to be honest, I have no dog in this fight. I would love to see a discussion here. Aren't gmc & snowfire Scottish? What is your view, Bryn?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:34 pm

AnneBoleyn;1408094 wrote: I found it unsettling, but to be honest, I have no dog in this fight. I would love to see a discussion here. Aren't gmc & snowfire Scottish? What is your view, Bryn?

I think that most Scots want to stay in the union with control over their own local affairs but the terms of the referendum prevent that. By forcing the issue into a yes / no choice believing that they won't take the final step I fear that David Cameron has pushed them too far and will split the country apart.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:34 pm

AnneBoleyn;1408094 wrote: I found it unsettling, but to be honest, I have no dog in this fight. I would love to see a discussion here. Aren't gmc & snowfire Scottish? What is your view, Bryn?

Good grief ! You detect a slight brogue in my accent ?

I'm as Hinglish as Hugh Grant with the edges roughed up a bit, well a great deal actually. ( Think Ray Winstone )

I think there will be a no vote. We love each other more than we think. More in common than would push us apart. Except for football.

gmc , who is Scottish, will have a different opinion, no doubt

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:45 pm

I think gmc's view is that a simple yes/no will force a resounding yes, on the basis that most Scots want more say but not a total split.

Wonder how we would split.....................financially, will it get as bitter as the average celeb divorce

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:41 pm

We had a similar referendum over Quebec. It's a never ending issue with them. Problem is that they want to separate but want Canada to foot the bill. I voted "yes" let them separate when the vote was put. I'm not one to force anything on anyone. The majority voted "no." The other problem is that Quebec's separation would cause travel problems for those going across Canada. It would also save a lot of money for corporations forced to print both English and French on their product labels. I'm surprised corporate Canada hasn't managed to get a 'yes' vote secured yet.

Aside from political agendas, I just think that no one should be forced to belong to a group or place they don't like.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:13 am

Snowfire;1408097 wrote: Good grief ! You detect a slight brogue in my accent ?

I'm as Hinglish as Hugh Grant with the edges roughed up a bit, well a great deal actually. ( Think Ray Winstone )

I think there will be a no vote. We love each other more than we think. More in common than would push us apart. Except for football.

gmc , who is Scottish, will have a different opinion, no doubt

Darn Sarf. Hingland There is no such place. I can't remember why I thought you were from Scotland.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:13 am

AnneBoleyn;1408171 wrote: Darn Sarf. Hingland There is no such place. I can't remember why I thought you were from Scotland.

It's his Hattitude

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:43 am

AnneBoleyn;1408171 wrote: Darn Sarf. Hingland There is no such place. I can't remember why I thought you were from Scotland.

No such place ??? Its the Garden of England is what it is.

Its how we, in our neck of the woods, say..Down South, England. We don't really do posh

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:46 pm

I see. Thank you.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:21 pm

AnneBoleyn;1408220 wrote: I see. Thank you.

Take a look at what a loverly place it is missus Here

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:28 pm

How lovely those pics are! Thanks Bruv. I did spend time in Canterbury years ago, but not enough. I felt very at home there. Christopher Marlowe fan, so I loved it before I arrived.

Post by **LarsMac** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:49 pm

Bruv;1408226 wrote: Take a look at what a loverly place it is missus Here

Right andsome countryside, that.