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When stephen was being stoned by the jews for telling them how it really was Paul was cheering it on , he chased christians down was their worst foe . Then one day on the road to damascus he had a experience . He then completely changed into one of the greatest men of God that ever lived . Before the change he was just a other hard hearted Jew . After the change he was reconised by all apostles as a real convert that could be trusted with Gods work .

When Paul was a hard hearted Jew he was well respected by jews and lived comfortable .

After his conversion he was hated , beat , wiped , poor (just earned a small living as a tent maker) he ended by being put to death in a lions den in rome . Paul gained nothing accept much suffering by converting to christianity he though would not Deny Christianity as the true faith no matter how much they tried to beat him into changeing his story and accepting the faith his fellow jews wanted him too again.

The only conclusion PAUL REALLY BELIEVED IN CHRIST he really did see something on the road to Damascus . Paul never did anything but incorage people to keep the law and sabbaths and holy days , he warned sternly against accepting traditions of men in col 2 . PAUL IF ALIVE TODAY would be screaming at so called christian pastors for accepting things like Christmas or Easter and rejecting the real holy days and sabbaths that he learned to keep as a jew but christianity explained the hidden meanings of . Paul never brought a new faith , just a deep understanding of the faith first delivered .

The jews well they went astray when moses went up the mountain when they knew God was up there with him .Built a Golden image with God meeting moses face to face the same time. Believe me they was capable of getting off the right path . Christ , The apostles , paul tried to put them back on it.

The christianity we see today is not the Faith of Jesus or Paul . ITS SATANIC COUNTERFEITS .
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AnneBoleyn;1401675 wrote: Jesus didn't start a religion. The apostles did & of course, all were Jews. Is this new to you?


Indeed not. i was seeing if shimon could be knocked off the usual discussion by rant approach. Religious people used to kill each other over whether jesus was a man, and also the son of god or the son of god and therefore not a man at all - whether he was in fact god, father son and holy ghost as three distinct entities or all in one. The wrong belief could get you killed in tbe old days. His Jewishness or lack of it is almost irrelevant, except there was a big debate about whether you had to be circumcised to become a Christian. If the answer had remained yes you did i suspect the number of converts might have been a bit lower. The Jewishness or otherwise seems a bit irrelevant.
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AnneBoleyn;1401700 wrote: Are you forgetting Paul was already a Jew? At first, only Jews were "members" (if I may be a bit loose with words).


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gmc;1401805 wrote: his jewishness or lack of it is almost irrelevant, except there was a big debate about whether you had to be circumcised to become a christian. If the answer had remained yes you did i suspect the number of converts might have been a bit lower. The jewishness or otherwise seems a bit irrelevant.


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Paul after converting to christianity kept right on keeping Sabbath and holy days . Jews felt very threatened by Paul as Paul wasnt changeing the faith he was bringing a much deeper understanding . Paul had very much knowledge maybe as much as any man ever lived other then Jesus as Paul was taught in the desert not by flesh and blood , He had extreem understanding of God and the true faith .

Many false christians try to use Paul as a excuse for selling licences to stay in Sin and not repenting but if you look closer at Pauls writings he very much taght the opposite . Paul told the SAINTs (real Christians) in Rome if you live after the flesh YOU SHALL DIE . but if you through the spirit mordifie the deeds of the body you shall live ! These harlot churches that are all inspired by Satan keep trying to use Paul to teach people they are saved by Grace and no need to change or keep the Law but they are falsely teaching Pauls teaching . Paul sternly warned christians they could lose salvation if not following Gods spirit. The satanic counterfiets we are surrounded by on earth today teach people not to repent ,especially of 4th command , they teach people its ok to accept traditions of men . PAUL WARNED THAT ALL WOULD PARISH WITH THE USEING AFTER THECOMMANDMENTS AND DOCTRINES OF MEN.

IF PAUL WAS ALIVE TODAY he would scream at Sunday keeping satanic ministers so loud they would want to beat him , whip him, and maybe kill him. HE WOULD NOT GO IN THIS WORLDS MAINSTREAM churches without being thrown in jail . He would be ripping down catholics statues , scolding folks for drawing fake photos of Jesus , he would be screaming at them as he seen them drag Christmas trees in their homes or teaching of the easter bunny . PAULWOULD NOT ACCEPT MODERN CHRISTIANITY . nor would he accept the faith of jews any more then he accepted it back then . Paul would reconise the true church as Christians that look something like jews same sabbaths same holy days . BUT MUCH DEEPER UNDERSTANINGS.
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Its a narrow way;1401821 wrote: Paul after converting to christianity kept right on keeping Sabbath and holy days.


Paul was about himself, starting a new religion unknown to Jesus or his Apostles.
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A person is jewish just by being born from a jewish mother. I encourage you to explore your Judaism so that you'll be happy and take pride in being jewish. Not just by feeling but by doing as well.
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A.H.;1440154 wrote: A person is jewish just by being born from a jewish mother. I encourage you to explore your Judaism so that you'll be happy and take pride in being jewish. Not just by feeling but by doing as well.


The trouble with your link is that it insists Jewish religious dogma is true. If a Jew is just as validly a Jew by birth, where does religious belief come into your equation? Surely a Jew can be happy and take pride in being Jewish by reason of culture. Atheism is a proud and longstanding inheritance within Judaism.
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