Psalm 109:8

[K.Snyder]

spot;1336793 wrote: Rather too vigorously perhaps. You've transgendered your President.


:yh_rotfl

[G#Gill]

Still CinnamonBear has not answered spot's question. What's the matter CinnamonBear? Can't give an answer? No of course you can't. You remind me of our local refuse collection lorry, after it has completed it's 'round' !

[Scrat]

It's radical christian terrorism is what it is

Obama is cleaning up the mess, or at the very least attempting to clean up the mess the past destruction of bush and how his administration among other corporate sleazeball murderers have brought this country to the brink of hell and Obama is serving as the scapegoat to all who is not only uneducated but brainwashed and ignorant

Perhaps one day the people who think they're voting for the greater good will wake up from their trance but alas they're far too "proud" to admit they've the brain power of an alligator on methamphetamine's

Not only that but I'd expect less from that alligator


Well said K.

I'm still waiting for the answer to my question too.

[Ahso!]

Scrat;1337136 wrote: Well said K.

I'm still waiting for the answer to my question too.Don't hold your breath.

[fuzzywuzzy]

spot;1336411 wrote: Bullshit. You need to consider how the psalm continues...May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow. May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes. May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor. May no one extend kindness to him or take pity on his fatherless children. May his descendants be cut off, their names blotted out from the next generation. May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the LORD; may the sin of his mother never be blotted out. May their sins always remain before the LORD, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.

For he never thought of doing a kindness, but hounded to death the poor and the needy and the brokenhearted. He loved to pronounce a curse - may it come on him; he found no pleasure in blessing - may it be far from him. He wore cursing as his garment; it entered into his body like water, into his bones like oil. May it be like a cloak wrapped about him, like a belt tied forever around him.






OH MY GOD SPOT SAID BULLSHIT!!!!

That's it I'm dobbing on you

I was going to go into a diatribe of look at the rest of the text but you beat me to it.

BUT YOU SAID BULLSHIT!!! :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl I love it!!!

[spot]

fuzzywuzzy;1337156 wrote: OH MY GOD SPOT SAID BULLSHIT!!!!Where anyone gets the idea that I'm either polite or well-behaved from I can't imagine. Experience surely says otherwise.

As for CB, everyone's bitten off more than they can chew here sometimes, perhaps we ought to let up on the harangue. I'd be interested (and impressed) if she had a go at Obama's A Muslim though I can see why she might not want to. As for pretending that 109:8 could ever be or has ever been taken out of context it was tripe before the thread even started, the verse is a plain curse and always has been. The only difference between that and 109:8,9 when posted on the Internet is that the latter is an explicit advocacy of assassination.

[fuzzywuzzy]

explicit advocacy of assassination.


yes agreed..........................but you said Bullshit .......I'm having to come to terms with that. In your instance it's almost cute. :wah::wah::wah:

[CinnamonBear]

fuzzywuzzy;1337156 wrote: OH MY GOD SPOT SAID BULLSHIT!!!!

That's it I'm dobbing on you

I was going to go into a diatribe of look at the rest of the text but you beat me to it.

BUT YOU SAID BULLSHIT!!! :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl I love it!!!


What? I'd go into a "diatribe" too if someone quoted and attributed more than I did. Others imagined and jumped on something, incorrectly. (The entertainment of message boarding ....)

This is an eye opener, I didn't know spot was against the word BS. funny that. He assumed much and was incorrect; ahh well, macht nichts. However, his avatar reigned me in, from the get-go. One of my favorites, Michael the Archangel. xox

"spot" has already read my Reply #36, sentence 3. He got his answer. I'm sure he's also seen my reply to someone named glas too... on the thread about Mohammad being a pedo pig. My post to glas answered other questions as well - those posed here. No need for redundancy, eh?

To answer scrat .......... Anyone who isn't a Muslim wishing Jihad on America.

And a good night to one and all, especially to those with the backbone enough to speak differing opinions. As you dare.

[fuzzywuzzy]

ummm...to quote....I agree, the sentiment is not new - it's been prayed for longer than I was aware of. Secondly, no it's not funny; it wasn't intended as humor. With the rising number of Americans believing he's Muslim and doesn't have America's best interests at heart, his days are numbered ... as the Psalm goes. May one term of damage be the end of his reign.

He doesn't own the words "hope" and "change." November elections are just around the corner and there's hope for change, for a shift. We wait and watch. And hope.

Believe it or not, I still have faith in America and in goodness overcoming evil in the long run. And so it goes.


So you do believe in the biblical quote or using it to further your assumptions of political degeneration?

That someone named Glas is a member of this board and deserves his name "Glasweigen". I'll thank you very much!!! I don't believe he ever used the term pig. Although I could be wrong and I'll spank his bare buttocks for doing so if that's the case .

too many personal jibes here for my liking I'm afraid .

ummm if you're not a muslim why would you say the word Jihad in the first place?



Great!!! now i"m just confused!!!

[CinnamonBear]

fuzzywuzzy;1337173 wrote: ummm...to quote....

So you do believe in the biblical quote or using it to further your assumptions of political degeneration?

That someone named Glas is a member of this board and deserves his name "Glasweigen". I'll thank you very much!!! I don't believe he ever used the term pig. Although I could be wrong and I'll spank his bare buttocks for doing so if that's the case .

too many personal jibes here for my liking I'm afraid .

ummm if you're not a muslim why would you say the word Jihad in the first place?



Great!!! now i"m just confused!!!


OK, let me work through this ...

Well, heck yes, I believe in it. I have no inhibitions when speaking my view and have never been a "yes woman." Moreso, I'm hopeful and praying for it; for him to be out of office - out of the USA, back in his homeland. The Nov. elections will be revealing as far as answered prayers. The polls so far are hopeful and too bad it's not 2012.

As for Glaswegien; I used an abbreviation because I found his name difficult to spell. I hope he doesn't mind. I'm not sure if he was the first one on this thread to refer to Mohammad as a pig, but I sure do. (I've read that reference all over the web, but I didn't coin it.) And no disrespect to real hogs and not making light of pedo's either. Again, my opinion.

The reason I used the word Jihad is because that's what Muslims wish for us, including the one in the Oval Office. It's the same reason that I refer to myself as an Infidel and wear that T-shirt proudly.

Have a good night and thanks for you manner of real conversation.

[CinnamonBear]

Two typos ...

**"I'm not sure if he was the first one on HIS thread to refer to Mohammad as a pig ..."

and

**"Have a good night and thanks for YOUR manner of real conversation."

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thanks and sorry for typos

[spot]

CinnamonBear;1337180 wrote: The reason I used the word Jihad is because that's what Muslims wish for us, including the one in the Oval Office.Ah. There it is, the Obama Is Muslim line.

Presumably it's a religious statement. It's not ethnic, it's not nationalist, it's religious.

We could start with a statement by the man himself - this is from a Newsweek interview, for example:It is a precept of my Christian faith that my redemption comes through Christ, but I am also a big believer in the Golden Rule, which I think is an essential pillar not only of my faith but of my values and my ideals and my experience here on Earth. I've said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals.I hope we can agree that he's expressed himself in public as being a Christian.

Some people may regard him as a Muslim because his father was born a Muslim. It's not an issue for any Christians because Christianity recognises and welcomes conversion, regardless of whether he's a convert from Islam due to his ancestry or not. If he is then some Muslims might regard him as an apostate but that would be an Islamic finding, not a Christian one. No Muslim could regard him as currently being a Muslim in the light of his public professions of his Christian faith. Apostate maybe, Muslim no.

What are we left with? He's currently a secret Muslim who's disguised his religious allegiance by accepting baptism and attending Christian churches for decades? The only basis for such thinking would be unsubstantiated belief on the part of the person thinking it to be true. Personally I'd call that prejudice.

Would a Muslim consider someone who behaved as Obama behaved and spoke as Obama spoke accept him as a fellow Muslim? Not at all. If he considered Obama as having ever been Muslim he'd not call him a Muslim today, he'd call him an apostate.

Would a Christian consider someone who behaved as Obama behaved and spoke as Obama spoke accept him as a fellow Christian? Undoubtedly. If he considered Obama as having ever been Muslim he'd not call him a Muslim today, he'd call him a Christian convert.

On what basis do you say the man in the Oval Office is a Muslim?

[G#Gill]

Don't hold your breath, for an answer, spot! It would spoil CB's previous opinions, if your questions were answered in an honest manner.

[YZGI]

CinnamonBear;1336419 wrote: Off hand, I only know about JFK, may he rest in peace.

Google is your friend.


You live in the US and went to school in the US?

If so you're saying that you only recall JFK being assassinated? No memories of Abraham Lincoln being killed? I find that hard to believe.

[CinnamonBear]

spot, WOW! Regarding your most recent post, I have a sneaking suspicion we are worlds apart and there will be no common ground on this subject. But, I enjoy speaking my mind.

First, I absolutely believe O's lying. It's that old "wolf in sheep's clothing" and "the end justifies the means." Certainly, his muslim brethren know why he's lying and support it. Taqiyya.

TAQIYYA - A muslim is permitted to deny or denounce his faith if, in so doing, he protects or furthers the interests of Islam, so long as he remains faithful in his heart to Islam.

O has done that in abundance. Someone took quite a bit of time to compile a few examples here:



Moving on .....

After the Pew research study this summer, it was announced that 1 in 5 Americans believe he's muslim. Millions of Americans. O had to do some damage control (taqiyya) since that number is growing. Also, keep in mind, that study was done before he announced his support for the mockery mosque to be built at Ground Zero. O's support was met with outrage here in the States. I'd love to see that study conducted now, just a few months later and see how much the numbers have grown. A quick google search yielded almost 25 million results on the subject of O being a muslim.

I was shocked that you mentioned O's so-called church that he belonged to for decades. Don't you know about Jeremiah Wright, O's mentor? He's a muslim, racist and anti-American. He's on record saying to his followers, "G*d Damn America!" and that 9/11 was our fault, thereby praising muslim terrorists. Only when that news came out, did O "denounce" his decades of close alliances with that group and his mentor --> since he was running for president at the time. (taqiyya)

There's a timeline of dates (month, year) that O used/abused his power in office to advance Islam. More proof that his allegiance is not with America, it's firmly with the enemy. I'll dig that timeline up later. It's time for this infidel to run, literally speaking.

[CinnamonBear]

YZGI;1337230 wrote: You live in the US and went to school in the US?

If so you're saying that you only recall JFK being assassinated? No memories of Abraham Lincoln being killed? I find that hard to believe.


I hear ya. Off hand, in that moment, I only recalled JFK. It was similar to a second in time when one forgets their phone number. It happens.

[spot]

CinnamonBear;1337469 wrote: After the Pew research study this summer, it was announced that 1 in 5 Americans believe he's muslim. Millions of Americans. O had to do some damage control (taqiyya) since that number is growing.And he's been doing this dissimulation for how many years? Thirty? Why do you suppose he started doing that, thirty years ago? Do you think he or anyone else expected him to become President of the USA, thirty years back? No? So what are you suggesting was his motive for beginning such a deception?

[Ahso!]

Well, so much for the idea that running is an exercise done to clear the mind.

[K.Snyder]

CinnamonBear;1337470 wrote: I hear ya. Off hand, in that moment, I only recalled JFK. It was similar to a second in time when one forgets their phone number. It happens.


Oh come on now CinnamonBear that's more incriminating than not knowing.

Why do you allow to be manipulated? It's blatantly obvious what politics have been reduced to and the main target are those that are gullible. You're allowing it to happen at the hopes you'll appear intelligent to others. Thinking for yourself is the most intelligent virtue that can exist

Let me guess Obama is actually a terrorist in disguise? Interesting, I say the same about bush

[littleCJelkton]

Obama is a Nazi, Muslim, commie, socialist, Christian, Kenyan, tribesman, anti-colonial, America hater!

[Ahso!]

littleCJelkton;1337523 wrote: Obama is a Nazi, Muslim, commie, socialist, Christian, Kenyan, tribesman, anti-colonial, America hater!

And he just may be the best president we've had in my lifetime. Spot thinks Nixon was but I don't get that at all.

[spot]

Ahso!;1337524 wrote: And he just may be the best president we've had in my lifetime. Spot thinks Nixon was but I don't get that at all.


Where should I start?To the Congress of the United States:

This nation must not break faith with those Americans who have a right to expect that Social Security payments will protect them and their families. The impact of an inflation now in its fourth year has undermined the value of every Social Security check and requires that we once again increase the benefits to help those among the most severely victimized by the rising cost of living. I request that the Congress remedy the real losses to those who now receive Social Security benefits by increasing payments by 10 per cent.

Beyond that step to set right today's inequity, I propose that the Congress make certain once and for all that the retired, the disabled and the dependent never again bear the brunt of inflation. The way to prevent future unfairness is to attach the benefit schedule to the cost of living. This will instill new security in Social Security. This will provide peace of mind to those concerned with their retirement years, and to their dependents. By acting to raise benefits now to meet the rise in the cost of living, we keep faith with today's recipients. By acting to make future benefit raises automatic with rises in the cost of living, we remove questions about future years; we do much to remove this system from biennial politics; and we make fair treatment of beneficiaries a matter of certainty rather than a matter of hope.

In the 34 years since the Social Security program was first established, it has become a central part of life for a growing number of Americans. Today approximately 25 million people are receiving cash payments from this source. Three-quarters of these are older Americans; the Social Security check generally represents the greater part of total income. Millions of younger people receive benefits under the disability or survivor provisions of Social Security. Almost all Americans have a stake in the soundness of the Social Security system. Some 92 million workers are contributing to Social Security this year. About 80 per cent of Americans of working age are protected by disability insurance and 95 per cent of children and mothers have survivorship insurance protection. Because the Social Security program is an essential part of life for so many Americans, we must continually re-examine the program and be prepared to make improvements.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/nixstmts.html

[Ahso!]

Okay, Nixon was right on with Social Security theoretically, but he didn't see to it that the benefit was tied to cost of living. Other than opening dialogue with China, what did Nixon actually get done? The behavior he and his administration displayed that got them thrown out of office trumped any and all good intentions he may have had. That's irresponsible.

[spot]

Ahso!;1337530 wrote: Okay, Nixon was right on with Social Security theoretically, but he didn't see to it that the benefit was tied to cost of living. Other than opening dialogue with China, what did Nixon actually get done? The behavior he and his administration displayed that got them thrown out of office trumped any and all good intentions he may have had. That's irresponsible.As for index linking, "H.R. 1 includes: Automatic adjustment provisions which will allow basic payments to keep pace with the cost of living, thus protecting our older citizens against the ravages of inflation. This has long been a goal which I have endorsed."



Try this one on top of the one before:To the Congress of the United States:

One of the most cherished goals of our democracy is to assure every American an equal opportunity to lead a full and productive life. In the last quarter century, we have made remarkable progress toward that goal, opening the doors to millions of our fellow countrymen who were seeking equal opportunities in education, jobs and voting. Now it is time that we move forward again in still another critical area: health care.

Without adequate health care, no one can make full use of his or her talents and opportunities. It is thus just as important that economic, racial and social barriers not stand in the way of good health care as it is to eliminate those barriers to a good education and a good job.

Nixon's Plan For Health Reform, In His Own Words - Kaiser Health News

[Ahso!]

I recall Nixon's deliberate decision to raise the health care issue was because there was a surge for national health care mounting and he put his support behind HMO's. In fact when the Nixon tapes finally came out, he was heard as being rather critical of the idea all together.

From the Michael Moore documentary Sicko;

YouTube - Nixon Launches the HMO's - What a SICKO

[Bez]

I s Obama a Muslim ...Answers.com - Is Barack Obama a Muslim

[littleCJelkton]

Bez;1337558 wrote: I s Obama a Muslim ...Answers.com - Is Barack Obama a Muslim


DAMN YOU and your reasonableness.

[littleCJelkton]

littleCJelkton;1337561 wrote: DAMN YOU and your reasonableness.




This has been updated

[koan]

Is this thread still about how some people use the bible to say hateful things then pretend they're innocent?

[littleCJelkton]

koan;1339116 wrote: Is this thread still about how some people use the bible to say hateful things then pretend they're innocent?


This one and a few others, but on the ones I have seen reason and logic denounces and changes the subject.