How about a computer Viruses forum where people can continiously post the newest computer viruses to watch out for and not install...
One I have in mind is "XP Antivirus 2008"...It's a virus and comes to you via windows update...DO NOT INSTALL IT!!!...It's a pain in the ***...
XP Antivirus 2008 is one of the latest counterfeit antispyware that devastates the wolrd wide web. XP Antivirus 2008 usually come up after you installed a video codec that come with Trojan, malware and virus. XP Antivirus 2008 normally generates fake and misleading system popup error messages so end-users will be tricked into purchase XP Antivirus 2008.
XP Antivirus 2008 removal instructions
http://www.windowsvistaplace.com/xp-ant ... re-removal
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If a computer has an antivirus package installed and running, and the package has a realtime protection level that's active, is it possible for "XP Antivirus 2008" or any other known virus to successfully install?
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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KS this is the nastiest little virus I have seen in a long time. It doesn't get past anything I have protecting my servers and machine in the office.
Staff and family have come crying to me to fix their Home PC and Laptops because of this virus. Once its on a system anything short of a reformat doesn't get it off. I have fought it for days and have given up on some machines and just reformat them.
The problem is people don't keep their virus software up to date. The never run for update. Or they never set the automatic setting to run for update. They also don't have their security level set correctly.
Boy I hate this Virus big time. :-5
[QUOTE]"XP Antivirus 2008"[/QUOTE]
Staff and family have come crying to me to fix their Home PC and Laptops because of this virus. Once its on a system anything short of a reformat doesn't get it off. I have fought it for days and have given up on some machines and just reformat them.
The problem is people don't keep their virus software up to date. The never run for update. Or they never set the automatic setting to run for update. They also don't have their security level set correctly.
Boy I hate this Virus big time. :-5
[QUOTE]"XP Antivirus 2008"[/QUOTE]
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
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Then the message that needs to be posted in this proposed new forum isn't "the newest computer viruses to watch out for and not install", it's a repetitive post every day of "have you installed a realtime virus barrier on your computer (like AVG or Norton or Kaspersky or Avast etc etc etc) because if you haven't your computer is a useless pile of junk. If you have you're protected!".
Day after day after day.
"have you installed a realtime virus barrier on your computer (like AVG or Norton or Kaspersky or Avast etc etc etc)?"
"have you installed a realtime virus barrier on your computer (like AVG or Norton or Kaspersky or Avast etc etc etc)?"
"have you installed a realtime virus barrier on your computer (like AVG or Norton or Kaspersky or Avast etc etc etc)?"
"have you installed a realtime virus barrier on your computer (like AVG or Norton or Kaspersky or Avast etc etc etc)?"
and then nobody need ever have to hear about "XP Antivirus 2008" or any of the other contenders, will they.
What's getting across is the wrong message.
No user needs to know of the existence of "XP Antivirus 2008".
Every user needs to be educated to wash their hands after excretion, to wear a condom with strangers and to use a realtime virus checker on their computer.
Day after day after day.
"have you installed a realtime virus barrier on your computer (like AVG or Norton or Kaspersky or Avast etc etc etc)?"
"have you installed a realtime virus barrier on your computer (like AVG or Norton or Kaspersky or Avast etc etc etc)?"
"have you installed a realtime virus barrier on your computer (like AVG or Norton or Kaspersky or Avast etc etc etc)?"
"have you installed a realtime virus barrier on your computer (like AVG or Norton or Kaspersky or Avast etc etc etc)?"
and then nobody need ever have to hear about "XP Antivirus 2008" or any of the other contenders, will they.
What's getting across is the wrong message.
No user needs to know of the existence of "XP Antivirus 2008".
Every user needs to be educated to wash their hands after excretion, to wear a condom with strangers and to use a realtime virus checker on their computer.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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I agree 200% and hope they protect themselve correctly starting now. This lovely virus fools user into think it is something Widows promotes as the cover looks just like something Microsoft would put out. :-5
[QUOTE]No user needs to know of the existence of "XP Antivirus 2008".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]No user needs to know of the existence of "XP Antivirus 2008".[/QUOTE]
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
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spot;936377 wrote: If a computer has an antivirus package installed and running, and the package has a realtime protection level that's active, is it possible for "XP Antivirus 2008" or any other known virus to successfully install?
I was told that I didn't need any anti virus software because I had a firewall and that the anti virus software was just a form of spyware itself...
I know nothing of computers...
What's the best anti virus software to get?...
I was told that I didn't need any anti virus software because I had a firewall and that the anti virus software was just a form of spyware itself...
I know nothing of computers...
What's the best anti virus software to get?...
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CARLA;936630 wrote: They also don't have their security level set correctly.
What would you recommend that I set my security settings at?...
What would you recommend that I set my security settings at?...
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Is there anything K can do to remove this crapware from his computer? I've been trying to find a way for him to do that but everything I have found so far requires going into DLLs and registry files and all those files that should not be messed with by us commoners. :wah: I've done it myself and had to send my machine in for reformatting.
Don't want that to happen to K.
Another question. He's got Norton on there. I think Norton sucks, but maybe it didnt pick up this virus because it was out of date, I don't know. If he completely removed Norton using a removal tool so it was completely gone, and he installed a different AV, would the new AV pick up on the virus and quarantine it??
Don't want that to happen to K.
Another question. He's got Norton on there. I think Norton sucks, but maybe it didnt pick up this virus because it was out of date, I don't know. If he completely removed Norton using a removal tool so it was completely gone, and he installed a different AV, would the new AV pick up on the virus and quarantine it??
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Computer viruses can be understood by analogy. Really they're programs. "Virus" is a word from biology. The analogy of this type of program to a virus in biology is so close that it lets people understand what to do about them.
Installing a firewall is like putting a good lock on your front door. It stops undesirable people from coming into your house. It stops intruders easily removing your valuables. It means you can feel safe, you can invite in only nice people like the vicar or some fellow pensioners for tea and biscuits. You still insist on using a condom when you take the vicar to bed because for all you know ten years ago he was the lead guitarist for a gay band in Greenwich Village. A good house lock's not much protection against HIV if you start ringing escort agencies even if the girls who turn up are dressed in Microsoft blazers. What do we pull over our trusty thruster in these sordid circumstances? A condom, that's right.
Why do people not like Norton? It's like people saying "I don't use Trojans, there was someone got HIV once even though he was wearing one". Firstly it's not credible, secondly it's not checkable and thirdly even if it were true a Trojan's still better protection than nothing even if one in a hundred did split which they don't. "I don't use Trojans, they're too thick and they ruin the sensation for me" is more believable and it's true that Norton installed on a five-year-old low-power computer will make it feel slower. I've got a 266MHz laptop here with 64MB and it's running the current Avast antivirus package without feeling slowed, it certainly couldn't contain Norton or AVG.
What does a biological virus protection treatment do? It prevents a virus from entering your body and it suppresses the virus if it manages to get in so that you don't get ill even though you carry it. Antivirus packages do exactly that. Locking the front door's sensible too. They're different tasks.
"I think Norton sucks" may or may not have a valid foundation, I've no idea why you'd think it. It sounds like repeated prejudice learned from other people who say it because it sounds informed. To the best of my knowledge, though, Norton's Antivirus insists on payment after a grace period. I don't see the slightest reason for paying for an antivirus package for personal home use when there's alternatives which are free. I've used Norton, it's great. I've used Kaspersky, Avast, AVG, they're all great.
Norton comes with uninstall instructions. If you run them it uninstalls. They're a major corporation with an unblemished reputation they want to keep.
"Is there anything K can do to remove this crapware from his computer"? The first post of the thread's ABOUT how to remove it!
I've no doubt that if Norton were removed and AVG installed - or any other antivirus package but that's my flavour of the month - it would remove this and any other viruses from his system. These packages have several functions. They regularly update themselves so they know what to look for. They scan the whole disk to isolate any virus present. They remove registry calls which relate to viruses. They look at every disk read and/or write to check that a virus isn't being brought into the computer. They might look at every email coming in or going out to check that a virus isn't being received or sent.
Installing a firewall is like putting a good lock on your front door. It stops undesirable people from coming into your house. It stops intruders easily removing your valuables. It means you can feel safe, you can invite in only nice people like the vicar or some fellow pensioners for tea and biscuits. You still insist on using a condom when you take the vicar to bed because for all you know ten years ago he was the lead guitarist for a gay band in Greenwich Village. A good house lock's not much protection against HIV if you start ringing escort agencies even if the girls who turn up are dressed in Microsoft blazers. What do we pull over our trusty thruster in these sordid circumstances? A condom, that's right.
Why do people not like Norton? It's like people saying "I don't use Trojans, there was someone got HIV once even though he was wearing one". Firstly it's not credible, secondly it's not checkable and thirdly even if it were true a Trojan's still better protection than nothing even if one in a hundred did split which they don't. "I don't use Trojans, they're too thick and they ruin the sensation for me" is more believable and it's true that Norton installed on a five-year-old low-power computer will make it feel slower. I've got a 266MHz laptop here with 64MB and it's running the current Avast antivirus package without feeling slowed, it certainly couldn't contain Norton or AVG.
What does a biological virus protection treatment do? It prevents a virus from entering your body and it suppresses the virus if it manages to get in so that you don't get ill even though you carry it. Antivirus packages do exactly that. Locking the front door's sensible too. They're different tasks.
"I think Norton sucks" may or may not have a valid foundation, I've no idea why you'd think it. It sounds like repeated prejudice learned from other people who say it because it sounds informed. To the best of my knowledge, though, Norton's Antivirus insists on payment after a grace period. I don't see the slightest reason for paying for an antivirus package for personal home use when there's alternatives which are free. I've used Norton, it's great. I've used Kaspersky, Avast, AVG, they're all great.
Norton comes with uninstall instructions. If you run them it uninstalls. They're a major corporation with an unblemished reputation they want to keep.
"Is there anything K can do to remove this crapware from his computer"? The first post of the thread's ABOUT how to remove it!
I've no doubt that if Norton were removed and AVG installed - or any other antivirus package but that's my flavour of the month - it would remove this and any other viruses from his system. These packages have several functions. They regularly update themselves so they know what to look for. They scan the whole disk to isolate any virus present. They remove registry calls which relate to viruses. They look at every disk read and/or write to check that a virus isn't being brought into the computer. They might look at every email coming in or going out to check that a virus isn't being received or sent.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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Hope you dont mind me popping on to ask you a question.I have an email thats telling me I have reached the payment limit on my account from paypal.....I havent used it fgs and my bank statement is showing this....soooooo I have not unblocked certain content on it as Im abit worried......any thoughts?
Women are bitchy and predictable ...men are not and that's the key to knowing the truth.
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Carolly;937808 wrote: Hope you dont mind me popping on to ask you a question.I have an email thats telling me I have reached the payment limit on my account from paypal.....I havent used it fgs and my bank statement is showing this....soooooo I have not unblocked certain content on it as Im abit worried......any thoughts?
"telling me I have reached the payment limit on my account from paypal"? But not asking you to log into their online system to correct things? That would be odd.
A typical phishing email says "hey, your account at SomeBank needs you to... something... please click the link here to login and do it". The link provided doesn't go to SomeBank, it goes to a thieves den with a room set up to look like SomeBank's front page. Please enter username, password, please re-enter your security details (date of birth, address, account number, SVN code, expiry date) - and people DO this! That's what gets me. They type every one of the bits of information the thieves need in order for them to strip the account of every penny of credit it can hold. You have a balance of £200 and a credit limit of £5,000? That's £5,200 you're missing by this evening and you're NOT COVERED! SomeBank will quite rightly tell you that you didn't keep your security details secure so the loss is yours and not theirs. A PayPal account is a goldmine to the thieves because some people register all their credit cards with them for convenience and unlocking PayPal unlocks them all.
Maybe only one email they send out from each thousand hits a user who does bank at SomeBank but they send out a million. If one in a hundred logs onto the thief site and fills in the details then they've cleared out ten bank accounts with that one mailing.
If there's not a link on the email you got then it's not one of these.
What's "my bank statement is showing this"? That sounds worrying.
"telling me I have reached the payment limit on my account from paypal"? But not asking you to log into their online system to correct things? That would be odd.
A typical phishing email says "hey, your account at SomeBank needs you to... something... please click the link here to login and do it". The link provided doesn't go to SomeBank, it goes to a thieves den with a room set up to look like SomeBank's front page. Please enter username, password, please re-enter your security details (date of birth, address, account number, SVN code, expiry date) - and people DO this! That's what gets me. They type every one of the bits of information the thieves need in order for them to strip the account of every penny of credit it can hold. You have a balance of £200 and a credit limit of £5,000? That's £5,200 you're missing by this evening and you're NOT COVERED! SomeBank will quite rightly tell you that you didn't keep your security details secure so the loss is yours and not theirs. A PayPal account is a goldmine to the thieves because some people register all their credit cards with them for convenience and unlocking PayPal unlocks them all.
Maybe only one email they send out from each thousand hits a user who does bank at SomeBank but they send out a million. If one in a hundred logs onto the thief site and fills in the details then they've cleared out ten bank accounts with that one mailing.
If there's not a link on the email you got then it's not one of these.
What's "my bank statement is showing this"? That sounds worrying.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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Carolly;937808 wrote: Hope you dont mind me popping on to ask you a question.I have an email thats telling me I have reached the payment limit on my account from paypal.....I havent used it fgs and my bank statement is showing this....soooooo I have not unblocked certain content on it as Im abit worried......any thoughts?
Another scam Carol...just delete them without opening them and never click on the links.
The same goes for those Banking email scams. Your bank will never email and ask for information via email. I would always ring them if you have any emails. My bank shows the latest scams on their homepage and welcome you informing them of any new ones doing the rounds.
Rule of thumb...If in doubt delete it and ring them.
Another scam Carol...just delete them without opening them and never click on the links.
The same goes for those Banking email scams. Your bank will never email and ask for information via email. I would always ring them if you have any emails. My bank shows the latest scams on their homepage and welcome you informing them of any new ones doing the rounds.
Rule of thumb...If in doubt delete it and ring them.
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Chezzie;937821 wrote: Another scam Carol...just delete them without opening them and never click on the links.
The same goes for those Banking email scams. Your bank will never email and ask for information via email. I would always ring them if you have any emails. My bank shows the latest scams on their homepage and welcome you informing them of any new ones doing the rounds.
Rule of thumb...If in doubt delete it and ring them.Tar for that mate....
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The same goes for those Banking email scams. Your bank will never email and ask for information via email. I would always ring them if you have any emails. My bank shows the latest scams on their homepage and welcome you informing them of any new ones doing the rounds.
Rule of thumb...If in doubt delete it and ring them.Tar for that mate....
:driving:Women are bitchy and predictable ...men are not and that's the key to knowing the truth.
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spot;937820 wrote: "telling me I have reached the payment limit on my account from paypal"? But not asking you to log into their online system to correct things? That would be odd.
A typical phishing email says "hey, your account at SomeBank needs you to... something... please click the link here to login and do it". The link provided doesn't go to SomeBank, it goes to a thieves den with a room set up to look like SomeBank's front page. Please enter username, password, please re-enter your security details (date of birth, address, account number, SVN code) - and people DO this! That's what gets me. They type every one of the bits of information the thieves need in order for them to strip the account of every penny of credit it can hold. You have a balance of £200 and a credit limit of £5,000? That's £5,200 you're missing by this evening and you're NOT COVERED! SomeBank will quite rightly tell you that you didn't keep your security details secure so the loss is yours and not theirs. A PayPal account is a goldmine to the thieves because some people register all their credit cards with them for convenience and unlocking PayPal unlocks them all.
Maybe only one email they send out from each thousand hits a user who does bank at SomeBank but they send out a million. If one in a hundred logs onto the thief site and fills in the details then they've cleared out ten bank accounts with that one mailing.
If there's not a link on the email you got then it's not one of these.
What's "my bank statement is showing this"? That sounds worrying.Sorry meant all was well at the bank.Thanks for your input as it has given me alot to think about.
A typical phishing email says "hey, your account at SomeBank needs you to... something... please click the link here to login and do it". The link provided doesn't go to SomeBank, it goes to a thieves den with a room set up to look like SomeBank's front page. Please enter username, password, please re-enter your security details (date of birth, address, account number, SVN code) - and people DO this! That's what gets me. They type every one of the bits of information the thieves need in order for them to strip the account of every penny of credit it can hold. You have a balance of £200 and a credit limit of £5,000? That's £5,200 you're missing by this evening and you're NOT COVERED! SomeBank will quite rightly tell you that you didn't keep your security details secure so the loss is yours and not theirs. A PayPal account is a goldmine to the thieves because some people register all their credit cards with them for convenience and unlocking PayPal unlocks them all.
Maybe only one email they send out from each thousand hits a user who does bank at SomeBank but they send out a million. If one in a hundred logs onto the thief site and fills in the details then they've cleared out ten bank accounts with that one mailing.
If there's not a link on the email you got then it's not one of these.
What's "my bank statement is showing this"? That sounds worrying.Sorry meant all was well at the bank.Thanks for your input as it has given me alot to think about.
Women are bitchy and predictable ...men are not and that's the key to knowing the truth.
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Carolly;937826 wrote: Sorry meant all was well at the bank.Thanks for your input as it has given me alot to think about.
I reckon about 1 in 250 emails I get are bank scams. The pic is a page of them all from this year.
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I reckon about 1 in 250 emails I get are bank scams. The pic is a page of them all from this year.
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Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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Why do people not like Norton? (1)
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"I think Norton sucks" may or may not have a valid foundation, I've no idea why you'd think it. It sounds like repeated prejudice learned from other people who say it because it sounds informed. [snip] (2)
I've used Norton, it's great. I've used Kaspersky, Avast, AVG, they're all great. (3)
"Is there anything K can do to remove this crapware from his computer"? The first post of the thread's ABOUT how to remove it! (4)
1. Because it's substandard lameware. Many people find Norton's virus awareness capabilities to be inferior and I happen to be one of those people. I'm sure Norton served its purpose back in 1997 but the fact remains there are far better antivirus programs in existence today. Even some free ones work better than Norton.
2. I happen to *be* informed. I'd "think it" because I have used it and I happen to know. Spot, must everyone's opinions be passed by you for supreme validation?
3. Norton's great because you say so? Do you see the irony here?
4. The first post of the thread is about doing what we're avoiding! Pardon me for not clarifying what I had asked. Perhaps that's what has confused you. I should have asked "is there anything K can do to remove this crapware from his computer without requiring him to delete DLLs and screwing around with his registry and inside files that in my humble no-nothing experience leaves one's computer malfunctory and requires professional repair."
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"I think Norton sucks" may or may not have a valid foundation, I've no idea why you'd think it. It sounds like repeated prejudice learned from other people who say it because it sounds informed. [snip] (2)
I've used Norton, it's great. I've used Kaspersky, Avast, AVG, they're all great. (3)
"Is there anything K can do to remove this crapware from his computer"? The first post of the thread's ABOUT how to remove it! (4)
1. Because it's substandard lameware. Many people find Norton's virus awareness capabilities to be inferior and I happen to be one of those people. I'm sure Norton served its purpose back in 1997 but the fact remains there are far better antivirus programs in existence today. Even some free ones work better than Norton.
2. I happen to *be* informed. I'd "think it" because I have used it and I happen to know. Spot, must everyone's opinions be passed by you for supreme validation?
3. Norton's great because you say so? Do you see the irony here?
4. The first post of the thread is about doing what we're avoiding! Pardon me for not clarifying what I had asked. Perhaps that's what has confused you. I should have asked "is there anything K can do to remove this crapware from his computer without requiring him to delete DLLs and screwing around with his registry and inside files that in my humble no-nothing experience leaves one's computer malfunctory and requires professional repair."
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"Many people find Norton's virus awareness capabilities to be inferior and I happen to be one of those people"?
What?? You've had viruses that Norton's been unable to detect? Seriously, that's what you're claiming?
Here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_an ... omparisons... Norton's got the highest signature recognition of any package which gives no false positives and misses no rootkit infections. That's a reasonable definition of a package with good "virus awareness capabilities".
"Many people find"? That's not just anecdotal?
"The first post of the thread is about doing what we're avoiding"? It looks very much like a forum member offering expert advice, from where I'm sat. It certainly doesn't say "don't try this as a fix".
What?? You've had viruses that Norton's been unable to detect? Seriously, that's what you're claiming?
Here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_an ... omparisons... Norton's got the highest signature recognition of any package which gives no false positives and misses no rootkit infections. That's a reasonable definition of a package with good "virus awareness capabilities".
"Many people find"? That's not just anecdotal?
"The first post of the thread is about doing what we're avoiding"? It looks very much like a forum member offering expert advice, from where I'm sat. It certainly doesn't say "don't try this as a fix".
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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I agree with youRed as ive said before on fg. Norton’s has been crap ever since Windows XP came out. Before in the early days I remember Disk Doctor and stuff was a little helpful sometimes but I have never had a good experience with Symantec products. It’s always HELL to uninstall. I’ve seen more than one system incapacitated due to Norton’s crap. Usually you try to uninstall one or all components of Symantec, and then enter into a cascading series of disconcerting events culminating with a complete reinstall.
I had Norton installed. Scripts would not work. many things would not work properly or were slow. Windows XP was slow and would periodically start throwing up errors. I contacted MS and the computer company. Both gave me the same fix for Windows. Worked OK for awhile but was still much slower than before I installed Norton. I kept updating hoping a fix would come on. Finally, Windows XP crashed completely. I lost everything that hadn't been backed up that month.
The problem I find with Norton is it slows everything so much that its impossible for me to get an virus cos I cant bloomin do anything with the pc.
Since I installed AVG I have no probs. I use a nifty little programme called PC-ON-POINT once a week or so to clean up and also run adaware proggies.
http://www.pconpoint.com/?hop=adwords101
I had Norton installed. Scripts would not work. many things would not work properly or were slow. Windows XP was slow and would periodically start throwing up errors. I contacted MS and the computer company. Both gave me the same fix for Windows. Worked OK for awhile but was still much slower than before I installed Norton. I kept updating hoping a fix would come on. Finally, Windows XP crashed completely. I lost everything that hadn't been backed up that month.
The problem I find with Norton is it slows everything so much that its impossible for me to get an virus cos I cant bloomin do anything with the pc.
Since I installed AVG I have no probs. I use a nifty little programme called PC-ON-POINT once a week or so to clean up and also run adaware proggies.
http://www.pconpoint.com/?hop=adwords101
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My problem, reading this, is that I know some bits are simply false. "It’s always HELL to uninstall", for example, has nothing to do with the times I've uninstalled NAV routinely and cleanly from preconfigured XP computers on which I've wanted to set up Kaspersky instead before handing it out to a user.
What I see is no good reason for associating all those problems with the presence of Norton AntiVirus. I agree computers can get into that state. I doubt the given cause.
What I see is no good reason for associating all those problems with the presence of Norton AntiVirus. I agree computers can get into that state. I doubt the given cause.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;937897 wrote: My problem, reading this, is that I know some bits are simply false. "It’s always HELL to uninstall", for example, has nothing to do with the times I've uninstalled NAV routinely and cleanly from preconfigured XP computers on which I've wanted to set up Kaspersky instead before handing it out to a user.
What I see is no good reason for associating all those problems with the presence of Norton AntiVirus. I agree computers can get into that state. I doubt the given cause.
So maybe your better than I.
ALWAYS FIND IT HELL TO UNINSTALL. Thats not false its fact, and fact that I lost alot of work. Im obviously no where near as pc literate or savvy as you Spot but Norton comes pre-loaded on many home pc's and doesnt say you have to be to use it or uninstall it. Their are many many many other norton haters out there too.
You like it great, enjoy!
What I see is no good reason for associating all those problems with the presence of Norton AntiVirus. I agree computers can get into that state. I doubt the given cause.
So maybe your better than I.
ALWAYS FIND IT HELL TO UNINSTALL. Thats not false its fact, and fact that I lost alot of work. Im obviously no where near as pc literate or savvy as you Spot but Norton comes pre-loaded on many home pc's and doesnt say you have to be to use it or uninstall it. Their are many many many other norton haters out there too.
You like it great, enjoy!
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Chezzie;937907 wrote: So maybe your better than I.
ALWAYS FIND IT HELL TO UNINSTALL. Thats not false its fact, and fact that I lost alot of work. Im obviously no where near as pc literate or savvy as you Spot but Norton comes pre-loaded on many home pc's and doesnt say you have to be to use it or uninstall it. Their are many many many other norton haters out there too.
You like it great, enjoy!
I don't like it.
Chezzie, there's a complete world of difference between "It’s always HELL to uninstall" and "I ALWAYS FIND IT HELL TO UNINSTALL". The first isn't fact and the second is.
ALWAYS FIND IT HELL TO UNINSTALL. Thats not false its fact, and fact that I lost alot of work. Im obviously no where near as pc literate or savvy as you Spot but Norton comes pre-loaded on many home pc's and doesnt say you have to be to use it or uninstall it. Their are many many many other norton haters out there too.
You like it great, enjoy!
I don't like it.
Chezzie, there's a complete world of difference between "It’s always HELL to uninstall" and "I ALWAYS FIND IT HELL TO UNINSTALL". The first isn't fact and the second is.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
Computer Viruses...
KS to get back to your question on how to get this beast of your PC.
1. Back up your data now as it will take a pro and most likely a reformat of your hard drive to get it off. If it means you have to buy a exterior usb hard drive to do it, then go buy one. Make sure you have all the DRIVES on your backup device so after the reformat you can install them again. Like your sound, video, Network card.
2. Don't go messing with your Registry unless you know exactly what your looking for. I know my way around in the Registry and I still get nervous when I'm in it.
3. No matter what virus software you use it has to be setup properly. McAfee, Norton, AVG all of them chew up time and space on your machine. It is difficult for the home user to get the settings correct. If set to high they slow your machine down, if to low they let viruses in. I don't have a preference but I have used NORTON at home and work without any problems for many, many years.
I have dealt with this lovely virus many time on home PC's. I have been sucessful on some machine and get it off without a reformat, others it had imbedded itself greatly and a reformat is the only way to insure that the machine operates correctly again.
Good luck and remember just unistalling this beast doesn't mean its gone it comes back because its imbedded in your Registry. That is why a clean slate is necessary in some cases. GOOD LUCK
1. Back up your data now as it will take a pro and most likely a reformat of your hard drive to get it off. If it means you have to buy a exterior usb hard drive to do it, then go buy one. Make sure you have all the DRIVES on your backup device so after the reformat you can install them again. Like your sound, video, Network card.
2. Don't go messing with your Registry unless you know exactly what your looking for. I know my way around in the Registry and I still get nervous when I'm in it.
3. No matter what virus software you use it has to be setup properly. McAfee, Norton, AVG all of them chew up time and space on your machine. It is difficult for the home user to get the settings correct. If set to high they slow your machine down, if to low they let viruses in. I don't have a preference but I have used NORTON at home and work without any problems for many, many years.
I have dealt with this lovely virus many time on home PC's. I have been sucessful on some machine and get it off without a reformat, others it had imbedded itself greatly and a reformat is the only way to insure that the machine operates correctly again.
Good luck and remember just unistalling this beast doesn't mean its gone it comes back because its imbedded in your Registry. That is why a clean slate is necessary in some cases. GOOD LUCK
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
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Would it be at all possible to just do a system restore to a previous date?...
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Not before you've taken your backup of all your data!
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
Computer Viruses...
CARLA;938119 wrote: KS to get back to your question on how to get this beast of your PC.
1. Back up your data now as it will take a pro and most likely a reformat of your hard drive to get it off. If it means you have to buy a exterior usb hard drive to do it, then go buy one. Make sure you have all the DRIVES on your backup device so after the reformat you can install them again. Like your sound, video, Network card.
2. Don't go messing with your Registry unless you know exactly what your looking for. I know my way around in the Registry and I still get nervous when I'm in it.
3. No matter what virus software you use it has to be setup properly. McAfee, Norton, AVG all of them chew up time and space on your machine. It is difficult for the home user to get the settings correct. If set to high they slow your machine down, if to low they let viruses in. I don't have a preference but I have used NORTON at home and work without any problems for many, many years.
I have dealt with this lovely virus many time on home PC's. I have been sucessful on some machine and get it off without a reformat, others it had imbedded itself greatly and a reformat is the only way to insure that the machine operates correctly again.
Good luck and remember just unistalling this beast doesn't mean its gone it comes back because its imbedded in your Registry. That is why a clean slate is necessary in some cases. GOOD LUCK
Ok...Thank you CARLA...
1. Back up your data now as it will take a pro and most likely a reformat of your hard drive to get it off. If it means you have to buy a exterior usb hard drive to do it, then go buy one. Make sure you have all the DRIVES on your backup device so after the reformat you can install them again. Like your sound, video, Network card.
2. Don't go messing with your Registry unless you know exactly what your looking for. I know my way around in the Registry and I still get nervous when I'm in it.
3. No matter what virus software you use it has to be setup properly. McAfee, Norton, AVG all of them chew up time and space on your machine. It is difficult for the home user to get the settings correct. If set to high they slow your machine down, if to low they let viruses in. I don't have a preference but I have used NORTON at home and work without any problems for many, many years.
I have dealt with this lovely virus many time on home PC's. I have been sucessful on some machine and get it off without a reformat, others it had imbedded itself greatly and a reformat is the only way to insure that the machine operates correctly again.
Good luck and remember just unistalling this beast doesn't mean its gone it comes back because its imbedded in your Registry. That is why a clean slate is necessary in some cases. GOOD LUCK
Ok...Thank you CARLA...
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My only suggestion..
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YZGI;938239 wrote: My only suggestion..
Want to buy a computer YZGI?...
I know someone who has a pretty good one he wants to sell...
Want to buy a computer YZGI?...
I know someone who has a pretty good one he wants to sell...
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K.Snyder;938251 wrote: Want to buy a computer YZGI?...
I know someone who has a pretty good one he wants to sell...
:yh_rotfl
It'll have to be real cheap if the only thing it is good for is shooting..
I know someone who has a pretty good one he wants to sell...
:yh_rotfl
It'll have to be real cheap if the only thing it is good for is shooting..
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Sometimes this work but not always. And as Spot stated you had better have a backup of your system first or you could be SOL if it fails. You only need to back up the data you can't afford to lose pictures, my documents etc. Everything else can be reinstalled. Any good tech can mirrow your folder for a price. Then put them back on your harddrive after it has been formatted.
[QUOTE]Would it be at all possible to just do a system restore to a previous date?...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Would it be at all possible to just do a system restore to a previous date?...[/QUOTE]
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
Computer Viruses...
CARLA;938319 wrote: Sometimes this work but not always. And as Spot stated you had better have a backup of your system first or you could be SOL if it fails. You only need to back up the data you can't afford to lose pictures, my documents etc. Everything else can be reinstalled. Any good tech can mirrow your folder for a price. Then put them back on your harddrive after it has been formatted.
Ok...Thank you CARLA...
Ok...Thank you CARLA...
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Thanks for taking the time to explain this stuff spock.
Very informative.
Plus it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about you.
Very informative.
Plus it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about you.
I AM AWESOME MAN
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Oh, I thought I'd come back and tel everyone that I did a system restore(Windows default) to a previous date and I haven't had a problem with it since...Must have not been embedded all that deeply...
Thanks everyone though for your input...
I'll keep your suggestions in mind if I ever have a problem from which a system restore does not help...
Thanks everyone though for your input...
I'll keep your suggestions in mind if I ever have a problem from which a system restore does not help...
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We just got hit with a virus the other day and it took a good two days to rid my pc of it.:-5:-5
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Carolly;937808 wrote: Hope you dont mind me popping on to ask you a question.I have an email thats telling me I have reached the payment limit on my account from paypal.....I havent used it fgs and my bank statement is showing this....soooooo I have not unblocked certain content on it as Im abit worried......any thoughts?
contact paypal.................I have been getting emails from ebay saying I owe for purchases........they gave me a special email address to send them to.
contact paypal.................I have been getting emails from ebay saying I owe for purchases........they gave me a special email address to send them to.
Life is just to short for drama.