Political Cartoons

Post by **spot** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:51 pm

If you take things out of context you can make them mean whatever you want to. It doesn't mean that's what they meant when they were said.

“I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump” on the reliability of a vaccine, Harris said. The California senator, however, added that she would trust a “credible” source who could vouch that a vaccine was safe for Americans to receive.

Harris also expressed concern that Trump has continued to contradict his own health officials amid a pandemic and suggested Friday that a vaccine would “probably” be available in October for the virus, which has killed more than 188,000 people in the U.S. as of Saturday.

“If past is prologue ... they'll be muzzled. They'll be suppressed,” Harris said of health experts and scientists. “They will be sidelined because he’s looking at an election coming up in less than 60 days, and he's grasping for whatever he can get to pretend he has been a leader on this issue when he has not.”

Harris’ concerns come after a growing number of health officials and politicians, including Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, said the administration's inconsistent approach to the coronavirus could solidify American’s skepticism on the safety of a vaccine.

"Why do we think, God willing, when we get a vaccine — that is good, works — why do we think the public is gonna line up to be willing to take the injection?" Joe Biden asked on Wednesday. "We've lost so much confidence, the American people, in what's said [by the Trump administration]."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/0 ... ine-409320

That all seems eminently sensible to me. Do you think perhaps your "cartoon" is selectively biased? Or that you're selectively biased?

As for which Americans are vaccine-hesitant, the news reports in Britain suggest it's mostly unvaccinated Republicans who continue to die. 267 yesterday as a typical value, apparently. I doubt they're vaccine-hesitant because of anything said by Biden/Harris, do you? But that's what your untalented partisan lie-piece is trying to say.

I'm delighted you're accumulating all this contemporary evidence into your thread though, it'll be a treasure trove in years to come when people try to work out what motivated American sentiment.

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:33 am

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:53 am

spot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:51 pm If you take things out of context you can make them mean whatever you want to. It doesn't mean that's what they meant when they were said.

“I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump” on the reliability of a vaccine, Harris said.
It is a cartoon that is accurate as anybody would be a fool to take a vaccine based on the word of a politician.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:02 pm

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Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:40 pm

tude dog wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:53 am
spot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:51 pm If you take things out of context you can make them mean whatever you want to. It doesn't mean that's what they meant when they were said.

“I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump” on the reliability of a vaccine, Harris said.
It is a cartoon that is accurate as anybody would be a fool to take a vaccine based on the word of a politician.

I don't doubt that for a moment but the question was whether the cartoon, and you, show bias. "on the word of a politician" is miles short of an explicitly Biden/Harris cartoon, don't you think? As in one-sided?

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:44 pm

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:56 pm

spot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:40 pm
tude dog wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:53 am
spot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:51 pm If you take things out of context you can make them mean whatever you want to. It doesn't mean that's what they meant when they were said.

“I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump” on the reliability of a vaccine, Harris said.
It is a cartoon that is accurate as anybody would be a fool to take a vaccine based on the word of a politician.

I don't doubt that for a moment but the question was whether the cartoon, and you, show bias. "on the word of a politician" is miles short of an explicitly Biden/Harris cartoon, don't you think? As in one-sided?

Political cartoons by definition are not news sources but represent a point of view.

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:02 pm

tude dog wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:56 pm Political cartoons by definition are not news sources but represent a point of view.

There we are then. That'll be why I despise them so much I expect.

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Post by **spot** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:37 pm

"History will absolve me"? I think the accusations of poverty and shortages have more to do with the bullying American sanctions program than with Fidel, don't you?

I have an apartment in Havana next Easter. You could book there too. We could explore the reality of the place if you like. I think the country has a lot worth respecting, but that certainly doesn't include Batista, corruption or multinational profiteering.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:13 pm

spot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:37 pm "History will absolve me"? I think the accusations of poverty and shortages have more to do with the bullying American sanctions program than with Fidel, don't you?

NO

spot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:37 pmI have an apartment in Havana next Easter. You could book there too. We could explore the reality of the place if you like. I think the country has a lot worth respecting, but that certainly doesn't include Batista, corruption or multinational profiteering.

I look forward to hearing about your trip.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:04 am